Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[KMDP]

Sonic Team: YES! You'll get wasteful boost mechanics, poorly thought-out game elements, and Green Hill and Chemical Plant rehashes and like it!

No Special Stages, Sonic only, Green Hill + Chemical Plant
Oh god, Sonic's become the original competitive smash meme.

 

[ColietheGoalie]

Crazy idea: Everyone is here!
Old Smash bosses return as fighters, including Porky, Petey Pirhana and Rayquaza.

Ridley is already in, you get a third Mother character, unique Mario rep, and a beloved gen 3 Pokemon.

 

[Honest Slug]

We all know a 3D Boshi game is of higher priority than a 3D Yoshi game.

 

[DarkFalcon]

You don't even like Yoshi anyways. (I saw what you said about him) Of course you'd think that...

I don't HATE Yoshi. I just think his modern design is really odd and I have no idea what they're going for with his character. I also think his abilities make for more interesting 2D gameplay than 3D. I think he'd work well as a level gimmick for Mario but not as an entire game thing in 3D.

 

[KMDP]

We all know a 3D Boshi game is of higher priority than a 3D Yoshi game.

A Yakuza clone starring Boshi.

 

[Takasmash]

I would rather just have an actual new F-Zero game.

Me too I feel the same way.

 

[Impa4Smash]

Throwing the eggs in complete 3D would be a nightmare though

 

[KMDP]

Throwing the eggs in complete 3D would be a nightmare though

Well, that's why we have auto-aim and lock-on!

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Page 2020. The year where Nintendo celebrates Yoshi's 30th Anniversary and launch the Year of Yoshi!!!

Or he gets the Samus treatment

Kid Icarus... I guess? I mean, I don't want Sakurai making it, because Smash 4 had a crap-ton of design choices inspired by that and it didn't feel unique.

Id rather Sakurai works on Kid Icarus as a writer atleast (the gameplay doesn’t need changing anyways)...also of course Sakurai would use Uprising inspired things in Smash (happened vice versa with that and Kirby), so using things he’s done before and putting it into Smash isn’t really a problem

 

[DarkFalcon]

Throwing the eggs in complete 3D would be a nightmare though

A third person shooter starring Yoshi. That'd be so weird lol.

 

[Impa4Smash]

A third person shooter starring Yoshi. That'd be so weird lol.

Just make Yoshi's Safari 2 in 3d. Yoshi becomes a shooter series

 

[BrytonJ]

Throwing the eggs in complete 3D would be a nightmare though

The more I think about it the more I think it could be done to be honest. Pikmin is ridiculously intuitive and the majority of that game is spent throwing pikmin around. With a few smart design choices I think they could pull it off.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Is a decent 2.5D Sonic game too much to ask for. And maybe no voice acting...

Zinith Possibly. I'd imagine it'd play like "Croc" lol

The voice acting stays...I like my cheesy Sonic lines

 

[DarkFalcon]

The more I think about it the more I think it could be done to be honest. Pikmin is ridiculously intuitive and the majority of that game is spent throwing pikmin around. With a few smart design choices I think they could pull it off.

It's Nintendo so it could definitely be done. I just don't know why you'd pick Yoshi as the MC of a game like that. Kirby I feel would work better. He's got a bunch of cool abilities and his copy mechanic could do wonders in a 3D environment.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

I wonder if Geno is in, did the requests for him over the years and the new working friendship with Square (they have a seperate faction just for Switch games) spawn anything? It'd explain Nintendo's sudden attentiveness to the game with that tweet.

Like a Switch remake? Square making Paper Mario but with Geno/Mallow/Boshi/Other characters?

Can you imagine a Paper Mario that mixes it's cast with the RPG cast?

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

*looks slowly towards Sonic the Hedgehog*

Hey Sonic Adventure 2, the day stages of unleashed and the actually 3D parts of colours and generations were good, it's possible but Sonic Team are just incompetent

 

[DarkFalcon]

Hey Sonic Adventure 2, the day stages of unleashed and the actually 3D parts of colours and generations were good, it's possible but Sonic Team are just incompetent

Many people would argue SA2 is bad now. It hasn't aged greatly but I still love it. Plus Chao Garden. They need to ditch the boost formula and go back to Adventure style..but you know...have a good development time and not rush it out the door like Sonic 06.

I also wonder why Sonic doesn't have more of his gadgets in Smash. Bounce Bracelet? Flame Ring? Those are really cool moves but all we get is 20 versions of spin dash.

 

[Zinith]

I honestly think Yoshi should have an extension of his current abilities in his own games. I'm getting tired of devs trying to "recreate the magic of Yoshi's Island" without the quality to back it up

 

[Impa4Smash]

The voice acting stays...I like my cheesy Sonic lines

Lol fair enough. I guess with good gameplay the cheesy lines are actually charming - Sonic Adventures 2

 

[Honest Slug]

A true Paper Mario game with Super Mario RPG characters would make me forgive Nintendo for all the things they did from 2012-2016.

 

[Pakky]

I want a Chain Chomp with a tiny hat as a party member in next true Paper Mario game.

 

[Impa4Smash]

A true Paper Mario game with Super Nario RPG characters would make me forgive Nintendo for all the things they did from 2012-2016.

Ubisoft made Mario+Rabbids, just let Square make a Mario/Paper Mario rpg

 

[Zinith]

And honestly, Yoshi's more likely to get a 3D platformer before Kirby. The reason I say this is because HAL kind of has a "if it ain't broke don't fix it" mentality with their games, while Nintendo who has full ownership of Yoshi games are willing to try new things, or at least recently they have.

 

[DarkFalcon]

Lol fair enough. I guess with good gameplay the cheesy lines are actually charming - Sonic Adventures 2

I now want a taunt of Sonic saying "I'll make you eat those words". Just so you can spam it when someone else does a taunt with voice lines. All the cool kids know what I'm talking about.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Can we get Donkey Kong before tho?

 

[Impa4Smash]

I now want a taunt of Sonic saying "I'll make you eat those words". Just so you can spam it when someone else does a taunt with voice lines. All the cool kids know what I'm talking about.

I would main Sonic if that became a thing

 

[Zinith]

Can we get Donkey Kong before tho?

You mean a 3D DK game like Donkey Kong 64?

 

[DarkFalcon]

I would main Sonic if that became a thing

Kinda like how I'd main Daisy if she has a "Hi I'm Daisy" taunt.

ok I probably won't but I'd totally play her more if she did

 

[Impa4Smash]

Kinda like how I'd main Daisy if she has a "Hi I'm Daisy" taunt.

ok I probably won't but I'd totally play her more if she did

If Daisy doesn't have this as a taunt then what was the point of even including her

 

[Honest Slug]

Honestly the only reason I played Sonic in Brawl was because of "You're too slow" so I can relate

 

[DarkFalcon]

If Daisy doesn't have this as a taunt then what was the point of even including her

I mean...The Inklings have woomy. You can't not put it in. Think of the memes! Also Sakurai making a you're too slow joke when talking about Sonic in the direct better mean he has his you're too slow taunt back.

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

Many people would argue SA2 is bad now. It hasn't aged greatly but I still love it. Plus Chao Garden. They need to ditch the boost formula and go back to Adventure style..but you know...have a good development time and not rush it out the door like Sonic 06.

I also wonder why Sonic doesn't have more of his gadgets in Smash. Bounce Bracelet? Flame Ring? Those are really cool moves but all we get is 20 versions of spin dash.

SA2 definitely has it's issues but I'd still argue that it's a good game, the Sonic and Shadow stages especially were fun and well designed, technical hiccups aside. And the other gameplay styles aren't nearly as bad as people make them out to be (ignoring the rouge space stage...yikes)

Even though I'd like them to go back to the adventure style I don't have an issue with them using the boost formula tbh, it's fun but I wish that if they were gonna do it's they'd build a whole game around it rather than throwing in gimmicks like the werehog, wisps, classic sonic, custom characters and unnecessary 2D sections, they really have no faith in what is supposed to be their main gameplay style.

 

[Diddy Kong]

You mean a 3D DK game like Donkey Kong 64?

I would welcome such a game very much, only if it's not actually similar to DK64.

 

[Impa4Smash]

I mean...The Inklings have woomy. You can't not put it in. Think of the memes! Also Sakurai making a you're too slow joke when talking about Sonic in the direct better mean he has his you're too slow taunt back.

Sakurai definitely respects his memes *Ridley hits the big time*

 

[Zinith]

I would welcome such a game very much, only if it's not actually similar to DK64.

Yeah, like I said, Kirby and Yoshi deserve 3D platformers, and I guess DK should get a second chance without the ridiculous collectathon elements.

Also bring back Wario Land...

 

[Impa4Smash]

A DK 64 remake, where you could switch between Kongs without having to use the barrel so you don't go crazy trying to get every single coin and banana (and mini banana) in the game would be amazing

 

[DarkFalcon]

I've been wanting a 3D DK platformer for ages. Bring back Tiny and Lanky Kong. They're cool and need more recognition.

Chunky is doomed along with Kiddy Kong.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Yeah, like I said, Kirby and Yoshi deserve 3D platformers, and I guess DK should get a second chance without the ridiculous collectathon elements.

Also bring back Wario Land...

DK needs the chance to have a actual 3D game that puts a priority behind making a 3D DK game. DK64 felt like it didn't have the full attention from the developers. Rare seemed to have given priority over games like Banjo-Kazooie back then. I general I hope they are gonna experiment more with the Donkey Kong franchise. Reggie mentoined DK amongst the franchises he wanted to create "new experiences" for, much like Zelda, Mario and Metroid. Metroid got Federation Forces and Metroid 2 remake that gave total new experiences, Prime 4 is on the way. Zelda had it's whole franchise turn in a new direction with Breath of the Wild. And Mario does something else entirely any time. I want Donkey Kong to have the same kind of attention. There's lots of potential.

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

Thankfully only one "leak" tonight, and it's a puzzle-ish one, so it's nothing really.

Spoiler: Leak

https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/422499079/#422499079
that street fighter guy
some chimp with a lot of hair that attacks with bubbles
sexy librarian with dual pistols
some anime girl that's scared by everything
blonde kid with a snake
some Game and Watch clone that's white with a face
conan the barbarian
edgy version of the Halo guy
sonic and dark sonic
bomberman
big dragon. i think from fire emblem
mega man
a loli anime girl
wall-e
young cloud

Spoiler: Characters

Ryu
Dixie Kong?
Bayonetta
IDK
Lucas
No clue
Simon Belmont
Master Chief? Dark Samus
Sonic and Shadow
Bomberman (Assist Trophy)
Ridley
Mega Man
Ashley?
R.O.B.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Will]

Chunky is doomed along with Kiddy Kong.

If Kiddy Kong grows up does he become Adulty Kong?