Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[NonSpecificGuy]

I think some of you guys are really sleeping on Lucina's chances.


Lucina is one of the biggest and most popular characters in the entire series. Her importance as one of the faces of Awakening (the franchise saver) as well as her lasting popularity, makes me think she is way more likely than some of you are putting her at.

I still feel she pales in comparison to Robin even in popularity not including the moveset differences. Some people love Lucina, some people love Chrom, but everybody ****ing loves Robin.

Personal connection to the character apparent if you played through Awakening.

 

[A Distant Demon]

I still feel she pales in comparison to Robin even in popularity not including the moveset differences. Some people love Lucina, some people love Chrom, but everybody ****ing loves Robin.

Personal connection to the character apparent if you played through Awakening.

Nope

most recent poll for Heroes has Lucina beat both Robin
~42k to ~24k

And a famitsu poll put Lucina above the Robins too
3rd in the entire FE series to 5th


The original Awakening poll doesnt give numbers as far as I know, so we have no idea if both Robins beat Lucina, but in that one Lucina is first for the women, Robin is second for women, and 3rd for men.


Even then, most recent numbers put Lucina as way more popular. And it is a complete runaway.

 

[Opossum]

Marth, Ike, Robin, and Corrin are locks for staying. Fates is the best selling title in the series, Ike is the single most popular character, Marth is the franchise face, Robin brings magic and is from the game that brought Fire Emblem out of a sales dark age. Most importantly, though, Sakurai doesn't cut characters due to being past their relevance prime, and doesn't cut unique characters without adequate reason, "over representation" not being one of them.

Add to that the fact that Lucina is the third most popular character over all behind Ike and Lyn, and that IS and Nintendo promote her to the degree of forcing Koei Tecmo to add her to FE Warriors when she wasn't originally in, and it's not nearly as clear of a cut as people say.

Roy's probably on the shakiest ground, but just saying...if the most recent Fire Emblem at the time of Smash 5 is the Binding Blade remake IS still wants to make, they may forego a newcomer and instead further declone Roy.

 

[PeridotGX]

I think some of you guys are really sleeping on Lucina's chances.


Lucina is one of the biggest and most popular characters in the entire series. Her importance as one of the faces of Awakening (the franchise saver) as well as her lasting popularity, makes me think she is way more likely than some of you are putting her at.

Mewtwo's an incredibly Popular Pokémon, but did we get ? No. We only got as DLC.

I agree with you: Lucina is popular, and she sould stay in smash. But we already have an Awakening rep in , and she's the least unique clone in the series (Technically. She plays differently). It wouldn't surprise me if she was either cut or absorbed back into Marth.

But every additional game she appears in increases her chances. I still think she's the most likely cut though.

 

[A Distant Demon]

Mewtwo's an incredibly Popular Pokémon, but did we get ? No. We only got as DLC.

Well im just going to ignore the fact he was planned but cut because of shenanigans

But we already have an Awakening rep in

Doesn't matter. Reps don't matter nearly as much as the fanbase pretends it does, and it certainly wouldnt just come down to "well we already have a character from that game"

It wouldn't surprise me if was . . .absorbed back into Marth.

Not gonna happen. We already know from his opinion on Dr. Mario, it's clone or nothing. But being one of the most importnant, popular, and easy to make characters in the series. . .

 

[Opossum]

PeridotGX

We didn't get Mewtwo in Brawl because the Wii wasn't capable of DLC. His data was nearly complete.

And considering Lucina would hypothetically take far less effort to complete...

 

[A Distant Demon]

Thank you Opo for posting so I can talk about updating the poll without double posting

Man I didn't realize how many people vote on these things. Not bad.


Anyway, this poll is based on the Indie gold rush going on. Ports like Shovel Knight are selling spectacularly, while games like Steam World Dig 2, Golf Story, and Stardew Valley are stealing the show. So how about some smashing, ehh?

 

[Freduardo]

Marth’s staying as the original.

Roy’s staying as they Luigi’d him in dlc. And as a Luigi, takes less dev time.

Ike is staying because he’s unique, awesome and a series favorite.

Robin is staying because Awakening was successful and he actively represents a once key mechanic of the franchise.

Corrin is probably staying because he’s unique, but as a dlc character he has a chance of being cut.

Lucina has the highest chance of being cut, but also is similarly likely to stay for the same reason she existed in the first place. Start her dev as a costume, but then her height is different, and she becomes a clone.

If they were adding anyone here’s my thoughts in order of likelihood:

1) Anna: she’s in every game.
2) Ryoma: They really make him important in Heroes and Warriors.
3) Lyn: first lord to not use a rapier, and would have a more unique fighting style.
4) Main character from Fire Emblem Switch
5) A villain.

In order of most wanted personally:

1) Alvis/Arvis: Best villain in the series. He won.
2) Anna: Hey, she’s earned it
3) Hector: Axe Lord uses an Axe! Makes him special.
4) Levin/Lewyn: Went from unit to tactician... and I really want 4/5 to have a rep.
5) Zephiel: because his sword looked cool.

Edit: on the poll I said very likely. Nindies do well for Nintendo and Nintendo would do well to consider acquiring some indie studios. Smash representation could be a path to second party.

 

[Zerp]

A Distant Demon for the purpose of voting on the poll, would you say Steve (Minecraft) counts as an indie character? Obviously was created as an indie and Minecraft is THE indie success story, but would Steve actually count as an indie rep now given that Microsoft owns the character?

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

A Distant Demon for the purpose of voting on the poll, would you say Steve (Minecraft) counts as an indie character? Obviously was created as an indie and Minecraft is THE indie success story, but would Steve actually count as an indie rep now given that Microsoft owns the character?

I'm not Zebei, but I would say Steve no longer counts, since he's now owned by one of the biggest gaming companies, meaning Minecraft technically lost its status as an independant game.

 

[PeridotGX]

Well im just going to ignore the fact he was planned but cut because of shenanigans.

(Also Opossum )

I don't get your point. They very well could've just said "Ynow? Forget Toon Link, Let's bring Mewtwo back". They deliberilaly decided to make TLink, Jigglypuff, and Wolf.

Not gonna happen. We already know from his opinion on Dr. Mario, it's clone or nothing. But being one of the most important, popular, and easy to make characters in the series. . .

Doc, Lucina, and DP were all originally going to be alts, but they had just enough time to make them their own character.

Like I said, I really hope she stays, any cut character is a loss. But characters have been cut for less. She's just the most likely cut (DM has a 2 track record and DP is one of Sakurai's own characters)

 

[Schnee117]

(Also Opossum )

I don't get your point. They very well could've just said "Ynow? Forget Toon Link, Let's bring Mewtwo back". They deliberilaly decided to make TLink, Jigglypuff, and Wolf.

There's evidence within files that Mewtwo was worked on a fair bit but he wasn't finished in time so they had to cut him.

 

[Crap-Zapper]

There's evidence within files that Mewtwo was worked on a fair bit but he wasn't finished in time so they had to cut him.

Same with Roy, was it not?

 

[Opossum]

I really don't see Anna as likely. "Being in every game" doesn't count for much when out of the main series, she's only playable in Awakening and Fates (not to mention that she wasn't even in Gaiden or Shadows of Valentia), and a shopkeeper in the rest.

The only way I could see her in is if they add her Heroes version and have her world Noatun.



PeridotGX (sorry for tagging; quoting is borked on mobile for me)

The issue is they COULDN'T opt for Mewtwo over Toon Link. One was a clone and one was unique. Mewtwo would have eaten much more Dev time.

The fact that time constraints were the only thing keeping Mewtwo from barely making the roster in an age without DLC bodes well for Lucina, if anything. Less Dev time is needed for her. She's a character that takes minimal effort for what is essentially maximum payoff (adding one of Fire Emblem's most popular characters).

 

[Schnee117]

Same with Roy, was it not?

Yup though Roy had a bit less than Mewtwo.
Dr Mario was in there too but he had pretty much nothing.

 

[PeridotGX]

The issue is they COULDN'T opt for Mewtwo over Toon Link. One was a clone and one was unique. Mewtwo would have eaten much more Dev time.

Jigglypuff's 95% unique, but they found a way to get her in. They could've scrapped both TLink and Wolf and made a more unique character. But this is all hypothetical, I have no idea how game development works.[/QUOTE]

 

[Swamp Sensei]

For Fire Emblem.

The six we have all have super great reasons for staying.

That said I think we won't get a new FE rep.

We might just keep the six we have.



And honestly, I think that's one of the best things that can happen to the series. We got a pretty great selection here.

 

[A Distant Demon]

Im not sure whether I would count Steve as indie or not. He was for a while, and then got bought. . .i'll let voters give discretion I suppose.

(Also Opossum )

I don't get your point. They very well could've just said "Ynow? Forget Toon Link, Let's bring Mewtwo back". They deliberilaly decided to make TLink, Jigglypuff, and Wolf.

That isnt how development works at all though. . .

 

[Opossum]

PeridotGX

The issue is that two clones doesn't necessarily equal one unique character for development time. Going by what Sakurai said in Melee, it's implied to be more like five or six.

And even if Mewtwo got in over Jigglypuff...that's kind of beside the point. Either way it'd have been a character cut only due to time constraints and incapability to do DLC.

 

[Zerp]

Jigglypuff's 95% unique, but they found a way to get her in. They could've scrapped both TLink and Wolf and made a more unique character. But this is all hypothetical, I have no idea how game development works.

I'm fairly certain the reason Mewtwo didn't have enough time left to make is because they went with Jigglypuff, it was either her or Mewtwo, semi-clones don't take anywhere near as much time to develop as unique characters do for obvious reasons, so I doubt they had much of a choice between T. Link and Wolf vs Mewtwo.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I'm fairly certain the reason Mewtwo didn't have enough time left to make is because they went with Jigglypuff, it was either her or Mewtwo, semi-clones don't take anywhere near as much time to develop as unique characters do for obvious reasons, so I doubt they had much of a choice between T. Link and Wolf vs Mewtwo.

There could be other reasons. Sakurai probably felt comfortable with his Pokemon choices, and wanted to show off other ideas. He had 6 playable Pokemon characters(he does count all transformations separately). Being able to retool Fox into Wolf may have been something he found more interesting than just remaking Mewtwo.

I'm sure Mewtwo would've been in if he had a bit more time. But that's about it. It's easy to see why some didn't get in. Dr. Mario would work best as a clone, but wasn't a super popular clone. Roy had Smash popularity, sure, but not as much as others. The other Forbidden 7 were either clones he didn't find important(Toon Zelda/Toon Sheik) or were already impossible(Dixie Kong). and what appeared to be Plusle & Minun(as the filename was kind of strange being called pramai, and fact there was no information beyond that. If it was the Pokemon duo, they could've been hard to implement in some way that felt unique enough, without just being a clone/upgraded variant of Pichu, or other balance issues. IC's had issues too, after all).

 

[ranmaru]

I like Sheik's idea.

 

[Diddy Kong]

For Fire Emblem.

The six we have all have super great reasons for staying.

That said I think we won't get a new FE rep.

We might just keep the six we have.



And honestly, I think that's one of the best things that can happen to the series. We got a pretty great selection here.

Honestly, this is what am hoping and thinking will happen. If I'd have to chose to cut one, I'd chose Corrin- but am not seeing it happening. Lucina is both easy to include and insanely popular, she's as much a Fire Emblem poster figure almost as Marth. I coud see her being changed up a little even. Share a spot with Chrom?

Am also hoping Alm can make it, maybe as a semi-clone of Ike. They share a few similarities, and he could maybe borrow Marth's tipper mechanics cause he's also using Falchion? Alm seems very easily fitting, his moveset writes itself honestly... I could imagine him being a fun character to play as. Think of a mix of Roy's aggresive style with a little more power as Ike. I think it's a concept worth considering. Sword characters are pretty damn popular after all.

 

[Blue_Sword_Edge]

Honestly, I do not believe it would happen at all. Tho there are some I could have seen as interesting;
Terry Bogard; Think he would have some really nice moves that could have worked.
Haohmaru or Nakoruru from Samurai Shodown could also have been interesting. Tho, I do not believe that SNK would get any reps.

Considering their most notable thing in recent history that happened was getting Geese Howard into Tekken 7 and arguably KOF XIV, they are pretty much low key with their arcade hits being ported to modern gaming devices. I wouldn't mind a character from SNK getting into Smash since it is possible due to Nintendo platforms got SNK games, but unlikely.

Terry Bogard would be an easy choice since he's a popular character of SNK.

 

[Crap-Zapper]

Considering their most notable thing in recent history that happened was getting Geese Howard into Tekken 7 and arguably KOF XIV, they are pretty much low key with their arcade hits being ported to modern gaming devices. I wouldn't mind a character from SNK getting into Smash since it is possible due to Nintendo platforms got SNK games, but unlikely.

Terry Bogard would be an easy choice since he's a popular character of SNK.

I know. I'm really looking forward to Geese in Tekken. Still, I believe the likes of Ubisoft getting something first, or even a second Namco character. The reason I believe this is not the companies themselves, but what they got. Namco still got a lot of icons left in their library; Tekken, Tales series, Mappy, Dig Dug... Ubisoft got Rayman for instence and is working very close with Nintendo recently. SNK is really only remembered by the KOF series, unfortunately. (love the games tho)

 

[Strider_Bond00J]

Personally I'm in favour of keeping the Fire Emblem characters we have already.
- Can't cut at all; he's one of the series 'mascots' in the sense of being the hero of the first game and the first one in Smash alongside Roy.
- One of THE most popular FE characters of all time. Internet Backdraft a plenty if you cut him from Smash.
- A really unique addition thanks to his use of tomes and weapon durability mechanic.

These three I'd say are essential for future Smash Bros games.

- Definitely a unique fighter, but certainly not one without stigma from the Smash fanbase. I'd keep her, but she's not my favourite FE character. (what happened to M!Corrin? I put poison in his mutton.)
- He's a 'love him or hate him' character, but still enjoys respectable popularity from his own series and Smash. I'd say he got a decent decloning in Smash 4, but he could do with some flashier attacks if we get a Binding Blade remake.
- I want Lucina to stay in for future games, but I want to see her heavily de-cloned or get a rework. This may be controversial, but I'd want to see Lucina return as a Great Lord so she can use a lance or the Parallel Falchion.

Concerning adding another FE character, my only choice would be Lyn, but no more after that.

 

[Blue_Sword_Edge]

I know. I'm really looking forward to Geese in Tekken. Still, I believe the likes of Ubisoft getting something first, or even a second Namco character. The reason I believe this is not the companies themselves, but what they got. Namco still got a lot of icons left in their library; Tekken, Tales series, Mappy, Dig Dug... Ubisoft got Rayman for instence and is working very close with Nintendo recently. SNK is really only remembered by the KOF series, unfortunately. (love the games tho)

I can agree on the SNK being notable only for King of Fighters (and by extension Fatal Fury, Art of Fighting, and the other parts of KOF's universe). I have only played mostly King of Fighters extensively and that is KOF '98. The other SNK games I know were in a PSP collection. SNK does indeed have some interesting games.

We have interesting cases of third party potentials from Bandai Namco, Ubisoft, and Sega. The wild card would be Square Enix (both halves of the company) since they have a reputation of being uneasy (for the lack of better words) on licensing characters, but they could lighten up with Cloud Strife's success in Smash. They're not the only ones who have a shot, however. They are other companies who can get a character in like Koei Tecmo and SNK.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Here's my two cents on the matter. I think the six we have will be there six we keep for the foreseeable future and if there was a FE character to be added it wouldn't be till the next next Smash BUT if there was a character that were to be cut from the six we have it would be Lucina. Popularity plays a role but it's not the only thing taken into account. If there is one of those that are going to get cut I have no doubt in my mind the first one to go would be Lucina. Then Roy. Then Corrin.

Preferably she would just get a moveset overhaul though. She has way more potential than most people give her credit for. Let Roy remain the cloney character and just completely redo Lucina...

And give her a Chrom alt while you're at it.

 

[N3ON]

The only characters I believe are safe are Marth, Ike, and Robin. You could find super great reasons for virtually every and any character on the roster to stick around, but that's not how it works. Priorities and precedent are a thing, and time and resources are finite. There are going to be cuts. And with a series as changing, expanding and saturated as FE, it seems likely that the more characters you have, the more likely it is one doesn't make it going forward. Especially considering IS seems pretty taken with the concept of the promotional addition.

In the past one character got cut when there were only three, now there are double that amount and people think we'll retain all of them? People think there won't be any FE new characters for inclusion, ones that might bump down the priority of some vets? In a roster that's already pushing the highest populated in the genre? In a series already punching above its weight? Seems rather idealistic to me.

There are reasons for all of them to stay, and there are also reasons why several might not be high enough priority to make it past the chopping block. There are multiple clones/semi-clones. There were inclusions made to coincide with releases that will be old news going forward. There were last-minute characters. There were post-game characters which were low or no priority for much of the game's tenure. In the past, some of those conditions indicated characters near the axe. Mixed with a growing roster, a growing series, and a dev that pushes the contemporary, I believe at least one of those factors will result in at least one casualty and at least one addition.


And fwiw I don't see Chrom or Lyn or Alm or any currently existing FE character ever making the roster unless they get new games. Not remakes, not spin-offs, new games as the protagonist. And even then Chrom still probably won't happen. Nothing stops the FE train chugging ahead.

 

[Deleted member]

We simply don't know if there will be a promotional addition in the future or not. It's too early to assume either way.

It really depends if the protagonist is a Robin/Corrin or if the protagonist is a Chrom.

 

[Staarih]

I think the current FE-lineup is pretty good. Awakening was a huge turnaround for the franchise, but I’d also argue Fates being close to as important, really solidifying series, not to forget great sales. So I kinda see Corrin returning, with the more popular female variant being the default next time around. Roy may be the only iffy one, but Smash-popularity got him back in this time, why not a second time? I do figure a character from FE Switch (or whatever new game) is possible, especially if it happens to come out somewhat conveniently on par with a new Smash, and in that case, I’m expecting cuts.

As for indie characters, I find it unlikely for one to get in. If I had to pick one though... Shovel Knight, I feel, has the best chance if only for the amiibo fuss. I mean, that’s quite a major deal with Nintendo, and it’s not only one amiibo, but three more coming out as well. Nintendo did publish the game in Japan as well, so the ties are already there, I guess.

I love me some Shantae though. And isn’t Azure Striker Gunvolt somewhat popular as well? What else are there, really...

 

[Michelaar]

I can see them cutting Lucina or Roy. Both are very cloney characters, but they are both very popular among the fire emblem fandom. For newcomers I am guessing it's gonna be either Anna or Tiki, since both of them are mascots from the series. But Fire emblem is my favourite game series, so i'm fine with anything.

 

[Diddy Kong]

I really hope they keep Roy around actually. I only really care about Marth, Ike and Roy, having only played their games. Awakening and Fates..? Am less fond of. I don't wanna pay to know the full story of a game. It's what irked me about Awakening innitially, and Fates is even worse. Only 3DS Fire Emblem I own is Echoes, so I wouldn't mind either Alm or Celica.

Really think it's ironic how people look to Tiki and Anna for chances, but the most reocurring characters in Fire Emblem actually are Palla, Catria and Est. 7 appearances as playable is HUGE! I don't care that Anna was a shopkeeper or managed the Quit Game title screen, the White Wing sisters have been on the battlefield since the very first game, and the very latest. And they have a constant role. Pegasus Riders are unique and offer a whole different playstyle than anything else from Fire Emblem. I think if they are looking for some character that's not a favor of the month and want something real unique, this would be a great idea.

Anyway, I wish they could swap Robin for Celica at the very least. I'd take Celica's self damaging gimmick over Robin's durability gimmicks. And Alm, again, seems just really fun to play as in Smash. I could take 70% of his moveset already straight out of his combat and dungeon animations.

And Corrin, never was a huge fan on his, but truth to be told; Fates is 3 games, and that makes him more reoccuring than even Ike.... Technically speaking of course. I wish he / she / it could be gone, but he / she / it won't.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Honestly, when it comes to Fire Emblem, it really depends on FE Switch.

Marth is obviously the face of the franchise, mainly because of his appearances in Smash, but also because Lucina, one of the most popular characters, actually pretended to be him. That really helped make Marth more important even if he wasn't in Awakening. As such, he's definitely staying.

Ike is an EXTREMELY popular character, which is ironic since, iirc, his games didn't do that well. I guess that's another case of people learning of Ike through Smash and taking a liking to him, just like how people who weren't Japanese learned and took a liking to Marth and Roy. With that in mind, he's staying.

Roy is a weird case. In Smash, he's really popular, but in FE, he's one of, if not the worst Lord of the franchise. Not to mention that, even if slightly Luigified, he's still mostly a clone, which already makes him likely to get the cut.

Robin has a very unique gameplay and he's the playable character of the game that began Fire Emblem's transformation from a series stuck in a sales dark age to one of the biggest Nintendo franchises of the present. I think those two things warrant him to stay.

Lucina's case is similar to Roy, except it's inverted; Smash people don't really care much about her since she's a complete Marth clone without the tipper while she's easily one of the most popular characters in the Fire Emblem franchise ever. I could see Sakurai either taking the time to Luigify her or making her a Marth alt, but she might also get cut too. Getting cut is the least likely thing imo, but it's not impossible.

Corrin is from Fates, the best-selling Fire Emblem title (kinda helps that there's three versions of it, but still), and is really unique despite being like most FE characters in Smash; a swordfighter with a counter. I'd say she's very likely and I say she because I bet female Corrin would be default Corrin simply because of popularity.

As for newcomers, it really depends on when FE Switch is released and/or if Echoes was an influence in the roster desicion. Heck, we might not even have newcomers, but that's not a bad thing because the current FE characters are very good choices.

 

[Geno Boost]

Alright, who would you personally want, and who would you most likely see make the jump out of;
Princess Daisy, Waluigi, Fawful or Geno?

I want them all but I want Geno the most and I think it's likely if square would still be a part of the next smash game and sakurai stays at making the next smash game.
I am also intrested on Smithy being added to smash game but it's just a pipedream... a shape shifting fighter would be amazing.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

a shape shifting fighter would be amazing.

We already have one

 

[Deleted member]

Alright, who would you personally want, and who would you most likely see make the jump out of;
Princess Daisy, Waluigi, Fawful or Geno?

Personally want: Waluigi.
Most likely: Geno. But even then, chances are low at this point. Only thing that gives him any sort of shot is that Sakurai expressed interest in him in the past.

 

[Geno Boost]

We already have one

Nah it doesn't stay a dragon it's not the kind of playstyle that I am looking for think of character like Smithy and Deoxys they change their stats and their appearance and possibly attacks and stay at any form that they want.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Honestly, when it comes to Fire Emblem, it really depends on FE Switch.

Marth is obviously the face of the franchise, mainly because of his appearances in Smash, but also because Lucina, one of the most popular characters, actually pretended to be him. That really helped make Marth more important even if he wasn't in Awakening. As such, he's definitely staying.

Marth is not just important because of Awakening. Remember the two remakes of his games for the DS? Shadow Dragon was released internationally, shamefully New Mystery didn't, but it still counts. He's just the face of Fire Emblem, and always was. He's a definite lock, and his influence in the franchise is massive.

Ike is an EXTREMELY popular character, which is ironic since, iirc, his games didn't do that well. I guess that's another case of people learning of Ike through Smash and taking a liking to him, just like how people who weren't Japanese learned and took a liking to Marth and Roy. With that in mind, he's staying.

Ike isn't popular for nothing. He was about Lucario-popularity before Brawl. His games might not have sold extremely much, but that's cause it where the only internationally released Fire Emblem console games. The quality is still amazing till this day. You know for how much they are selling Fire Emblem Path of Radiance nowadays? Go ahead and look it up. If IS wants easy cash money, they should opt to do FE9 and FE10 remakes.

Don't forget Intelligent Systems also really favors Ike, and they got a lot to say about the Fire Emblem roster in Smash. They work closely with Sakurai. Ike is definitely staying. And he damn better be, as he's one of my mains and my favorite ever Fire Emblem character.

Roy is a weird case. In Smash, he's really popular, but in FE, he's one of, if not the worst Lord of the franchise. Not to mention that, even if slightly Luigified, he's still mostly a clone, which already makes him likely to get the cut.

*deep sigh*

You cannot be the worst Lord if your main exclusive weapons is amongst one of the best weapons in the franchise...

Roy is extremely popular because FE6 revived Fire Emblem. At least in Japan. It was planned for a international release, but IS deemed the difficulty too hard so they started going international with FE7. He's basically the Lyn for Japan, and the face of handheld Fire Emblem games.

And why would they give him a more unique moveset only to cut him the next game? That's pretty damn counter productive.

Robin has a very unique gameplay and he's the playable character of the game that began Fire Emblem's transformation from a series stuck in a sales dark age to one of the biggest Nintendo franchises of the present. I think those two things warrant him to stay.

Lucina's case is similar to Roy, except it's inverted; Smash people don't really care much about her since she's a complete Marth clone without the tipper while she's easily one of the most popular characters in the Fire Emblem franchise ever. I could see Sakurai either taking the time to Luigify her or making her a Marth alt, but she might also get cut too. Getting cut is the least likely thing imo, but it's not impossible.

Corrin is from Fates, the best-selling Fire Emblem title (kinda helps that there's three versions of it, but still), and is really unique despite being like most FE characters in Smash; a swordfighter with a counter. I'd say she's very likely and I say she because I bet female Corrin would be default Corrin simply because of popularity.

As for newcomers, it really depends on when FE Switch is released and/or if Echoes was an influence in the roster desicion. Heck, we might not even have newcomers, but that's not a bad thing because the current FE characters are very good choices.

Really I don't wanna think about that potential Fire Emblem Switch. It hasn't been announced yet. As of now, I don't think any character is specifically more likely than another, but I could see Lyn make it due to her popularity, or Alm because he's recent, decently popular, and easy to include.

Alright, who would you personally want, and who would you most likely see make the jump out of;
Princess Daisy, Waluigi, Fawful or Geno?

Personally?

I'd WANT Fawful to happen... Yet this is an enourmous pipedream. Yes he's sort of the main villain of the Mario & Luigi sub franchise, yet those games don't get any recognision in Smash thus far. Which is a shame, cause it's quality is amazing! Anyway, Fawful gives me chuckles, and he has FURY! So that makes a great Smash character.

Second up, I would chose Geno. Not that I'm an enourmous fan of Super Mario RPG, but I do recognise it's vallue as the start of Mario RPGs in general. Plus, Geno would make a rather interesting character on his own. I once sort of supported the idea, might run another try on SMRPG...

Waluigi is next in line. He's at least got a few basic abilities and his body type and humorous character can lead to something... fun? I used to be a great Waluigi detractor, but truth to be told, Waluigi would've hyped me more than 70% of the Smash 4 newcomers. Give him some Mario Tennis based moveset or something...

Daisy is last cause well... She'd be fine as a Peach alt honestly. Don't kill me for it. But I don't think that her double jump from Super Mario Run justifies a new character. Now Daisy in her SPORTS outfit on the other hand............

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Really I don't wanna think about that potential Fire Emblem Switch. It hasn't been announced yet.

Smash still had a history of showing Fire Emblem characters before their game is released, with Roy in Melee and, for anyone who doesn't live in Japan, Corrin in Smash 4.

I could see it happen. I don't think it's as likely as the other ones I mentioned, but it's still a possibility.