Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Cutie Gwen]

Considering one's in the background while the other is an AT and active, they might do nothing. Not much reason to worry about it, really, imo.

Sakurai felt the need to remove Dedede in Dreamland 64 if he's played in 4

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Sakurai felt the need to remove Dedede in Dreamland 64 if he's played in 4

Yes, but we're talking about Assist Trophies VS Playable Characters. Different situation.

We don't have an actual reference to work off of. Yet. We'll find out soon enough, really.

 

[Shroob]

The situation is really weird.

They'd basically have hard code an assist trophy to never show up on a certain stage if that's the case.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Yes, but we're talking about Assist Trophies VS Playable Characters. Different situation.

We don't have an actual reference to work off of. Yet. We'll find out soon enough, really.

It's barely different at all. A minor background element got removed just in case. The real question is Palkia on Spear Pillar

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

The situation is really weird.

They'd basically have hard code an assist trophy to never show up on a certain stage if that's the case.

Don't see why it's undoable myself. It's just a matter of removing it from the stage's RNG pool. Or putting an exception in the code for what stages they can show up on.

I am not far into programming, but I get the gist of the idea.

 

[Strider_Bond00J]

Alternatively, we could leave it to Alfonzo to run up Green Hill Zone's loop-the-loop when Knuckles joins the fray as an Assist Trophy.

Sorrynotsorryforanycreativespeculationanymore.

 

[N3ON]

Knuckles has already been seen going through the Green Hill Zone loop and I really doubt they program the AT to not show up on the stage as well. Don't bother thinking too hard about it because then you'll realize we already have Samus fighting Samus.

 

[Jetsurge]

I think Knuckles being both an assist trophy and background element is an & Knuckles joke.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Has the blog for the website updated at all? Isn't it well into Monday in Japan?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Has the blog for the website updated at all? Isn't it well into Monday in Japan?

Not yet oddly enough, the updates and PotD always updated at 7AM my time and it's 10 to 12

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Not yet oddly enough, the updates and PotD always updated at 7AM my time and it's 10 to 12

I mean they've done one every weekday since game has been announced and it's almost 7pm in Japan if I time zoned correctly.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I mean they've done one every weekday since game has been announced and it's almost 7pm in Japan if I time zoned correctly.

I know, I meant it's been 5 hours since the usual upd

 

[MainJPW]

I think Knuckles being both an assist trophy and background element is an & Knuckles joke.

Did everyone forget about the & Knuckles mode in Sonic Mania?

Knuckles being able to appear in two places at once is actually canon.

 

[Zinith]

Maybe they're playing mind games with us....

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I hope it's a confirmation of an NPC personally. Though there's so much we've yet to see, they didn't even explain Ridley murdering Link in his trailer although I think it's Special Smash Stamina Mode reworked to have stocks

 

[PSIGuy]

Do airdodges in Smash 5 have staling like rolls/spot dodges? I was thinking they could make wavedashing stronger than it is now and balance it by having airdodges share the same 'overuse' meter with rolls/spot dodges. You can't roll away twice and then expect to approach with a wavedash because it'll be too slow. You can't wavedash in then try to roll or dodge out when you put yourself in a bad situation, you already used too many dodges. Basically, you can't have your cake and eat it with dodges/wavedashing. I think it'd create an interesting ebb and flow, since you can try to play around your foe's usage of dodges/dashes.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Do airdodges in Smash 5 have staling like rolls/spot dodges? I was thinking they could make wavedashing stronger than it is now and balance it by having airdodges share the same 'overuse' meter with rolls/spot dodges. You can't roll away twice and then expect to approach with a wavedash because it'll be too slow. You can't wavedash in then try to roll or dodge out when you put yourself in a bad situation, you already used too many dodges. Basically, you can't have your cake and eat it with dodges/wavedashing. I think it'd create an interesting ebb and flow, since you can try to play around your foe's usage of dodges/dashes.

Yeah, when Sakurai explains the mechanic and shows the two Pits, you can see he counts an airdodge

 

[MainJPW]

I hope it's a confirmation of an NPC personally. Though there's so much we've yet to see, they didn't even explain Ridley murdering Link in his trailer although I think it's Special Smash Stamina Mode reworked to have stocks

Instead of having the characters lifeless bodies lay around they instead have the characters explode in Stamina mode. That’s what I thought immediately after seeing it at least.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Instead of having the characters lifeless bodies lay around they instead have the characters explode in Stamina mode. That’s what I thought immediately after seeing it at least.

It's likely that too.

Also I'm worried Sakurai didn't think of an obvious gimmick to use for this, that Project M mode that lets you switch characters when dying. Y'know, cause it's the Switch?

 

[Jubileus57]

I hope it's a confirmation of an NPC personally. Though there's so much we've yet to see, they didn't even explain Ridley murdering Link in his trailer although I think it's Special Smash Stamina Mode reworked to have stocks

My first thought was that Ridley's fully charged Down B works as a danger zone if the character is over a particular percentage. That would be hella weird to see this outside of Final Smashes though.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

My first thought was that Ridley's fully charged Down B works as a danger zone if the character is over a particular percentage. That would be hella weird to see this outside of Final Smashes though.

That's what I thought too but the Treehouse stuff didn't mention it when showcasing Ridley, and I'm pretty sure Sakurai would have told us that kind of stuff when showcasing the move

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

That's what I thought too but the Treehouse stuff didn't mention it when showcasing Ridley, and I'm pretty sure Sakurai would have told us that kind of stuff when showcasing the move

Although it's been noted the game is still being worked on. Maybe it's meant to be more powerful, but was bugged. Maybe not.

I'd hope it wasn't too powerful, but still a good ko'ing move.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Although it's been noted the game is still being worked on. Maybe it's meant to be more powerful, but was bugged. Maybe not.

I'd hope it wasn't too powerful, but still a good ko'ing move.

I feel they'd say "Huh it's supposed to kill then". But then you remember the move does nearly 60% and crumples, I'm pretty sure that's more than enough reward for landing it

 

[WaddleMatt]

Strange, maybe the Smash Blog post won't be every weekday like we thought.

 

[DYED]

Strange, maybe the Smash Blog post won't be every weekday like we thought.

I just hope they didn't just completely drop it.

 

[Zeox]

I just hope they didn't just completely drop it.

only 3 days later they get lazy.

 

[WaddleMatt]

I just hope they didn't just completely drop it.

I don't think Sakurai would do that considering how he treated us the last 2 games.

 

[Galgatha]

So we make a list of Nintendo characters and 3rd parties we want to see?

I don't have 10 Nintendo characters that I would like to see, but here is my list!

Nintendo Characters:
1) Bandana Dee
2) Decidueye
3) Twintelle (Instead of Spring-man....she has more personality and plus I like brown women )
4) Rex

I think that's pretty much it actually.

My 3rd Party Characters would be these:

1) Rayman
2) Banjo Kazooie
3) Crash Bandicoot
4) Amateratsu

Idc about Sora or Spyro, though both would be fine with me. I actually don't want to see any more characters from 3rd party fighting games. I worry that if the cast gets too large, it will feel over crowded. Also, I don't have an opinion really on them adding more Echo Fighters or not. Personally I feel as though the entire "echo fighter" lable was created just so that they can introduce Daisy and let people KNOW that she is basically a clone so don't get angry.

I also personally believe Sakurai when he said that he hopes we aren't expecting alot of newcomers. We already got 2 (actual new comers), I don't see us getting more than (at most) 3 more. But that is my wishlist above.

I'm moreso interested in the returning features for online play and stage creator.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Sakurai is sitting at home with his wife eating dinner and suddenly he drops his fork because he forgot to update the blog.

''Oh that's right. I'm doing that again. Whoops."

 

[WaddleMatt]

Sakurai is sitting at home with his wife eating dinner and suddenly he drops his fork because he forgot to update the blog.

''Oh that's right. I'm doing that again. Whoops."

Or his cat locked him out his room.

 

[Galgatha]

Strange, maybe the Smash Blog post won't be every weekday like we thought.

Perhaps it will be a once a week type thing now that E3 is over with??

 

[Tree Gelbman]

It'd be weird to use the terms ''today's fighter" and ''today's item" instead of "weekly item" or '"weekly fighter." then.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Sakurai is sitting at home with his wife eating dinner and suddenly he drops his fork because he forgot to update the blog.

''Oh that's right. I'm doing that again. Whoops."

Unfortunately, he's eating soup meaning he won't have a fork, therefore there will be nothing today

 

[Zinith]

Unfortunately, he's eating soup meaning he won't have a fork, therefore there will be nothing today

I'll be waiting patiently for "Today's Fighter: 05 - Yoshi"

 

[Tree Gelbman]

I'll be waiting patiently for "Today's Fighter: 05 - Yoshi"

Imagine your shock when it's actually "Today's Fighter: 05ε - Boshi".

 

[DYED]

Sakurai is sitting at home with his wife eating dinner and suddenly he drops his fork because he forgot to update the blog.

''Oh that's right. I'm doing that again. Whoops."

Meanwhile, on the other side of the globe Reggie is firing Bill again.

 

[Galgatha]

It'd be weird to use the terms ''today's fighter" and ''today's item" instead of "weekly item" or '"weekly fighter." then.

This is true, maybe we are viewing this wrong? Maybe it's not Sakuria who determines the update times, but Nintendo of America, so we may not see anything today until maybe lunch time PST?

I wish it would show the time when the blog was posted :/ Can't seem to find a timestamp

 

[Metal Shop X]

I meant stuff like Zero getting mad at the cute gags and references in the character trailers because it's not giving info that he wants. Which is odd as he was really perplexed by the gag they did for Falco

Oh my lord, I thought I was the only one who noticed that.

Speaking of that video, while it started good, the more it goes on, the more Zero just get sidetracked or get angry at minor stuff that don't matter and just make the video longer for nothing (the Pichu & Wario section in particular were horrible). I ended up skipping some portion of it to get to the good stuff.

While I do like the Smash team is going to ask pro player help to balance the game, I hope they also don't do everything the pro players ask, or else we will have Melee HD & Ridley Edition on our hand.

 

[Zinith]

Imagine your shock when it's actually "Today's Fighter: 05ε - Boshi".

*GASP* Unbelievable!!!

Spoiler

How did you get that epsilon symbol?!!!

 

[Tree Gelbman]

This is true, maybe we are viewing this wrong? Maybe it's not Sakuria who determines the update times, but Nintendo of America, so we may not see anything today until maybe lunch time PST?

I wish it would show the time when the blog was posted :/ Can't seem to find a timestamp

But surely the other countries would already also have an update if that were the case as well.

*GASP* Unbelievable!!!

Spoiler

How did you get that epsilon symbol?!!!

Google-Fu.

Copy.

Paste.

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