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What’d ZeRo do? Am I missing out on some spicy drama?
Zero threw mad shade at Sonicfox, going "I used to have respect for you but now I don't care about you" because when Sonicfox was a nervous as **** 16 year old who had social anxiety and knew no Smash players, he didn't get "Thank you oh wise ZeRo™ from Chili"
Sonicfox is very talented with how many games he's won major tournaments in. But Smash Bros. is entirely different from any other standard fighter. That's why you don't see a ton of crossover between Smash and other fighters.
I think if he waited for Ultimate he could fare better as literally everyone needs to get used to that game and the Perfect Shield working more like a parry could be easy for him to get used to
...That actually happened? Since when?
I missed that exchange. Just found some articles about it tho. I support ZeRo as a prominent and rarely toxic member of the community, but this specific situation looks really bad on him. Assuming every young FGC player should know him, and then getting upset and trying to stir **** up because he didn't get recognized is ridiculous. I'm sure there are plenty of people who are starstruck when they meet ZeRo, but he certainly shouldn't assume everyone will be, and to go further than that, it's ridiculous that he was vocally upset about it and stopped supporting someone over it. I'm disappointed to see something that ridiculous out of one of our most prominent and celebrated players.
and , or minor aesthetic updates like , , and even and . There just seems to be so many things added to this game that don't seem integral at all, but were obviously included out of love for both the fans and the source material. For example, 's whole redesign did warrant some gameplay changes, but things like the double arrow and blade beam mechanics are those little touches that really show Sakurai's passion for what he does, as much as it may tire him. Even minor visual quirks with 's animations, , , , and 's Final Smash additions, and varied alternates that we've seen for characters like , , , and show this too. There's just so much respect shown for all of these franchises and the legacies they've built up, and it's really shown through every little touch he adds to the game. make it in over someone's favorite are understandable, but once the reasoning and logistics of their addition we're known, there wasn't much of any reason for the hate of that character group (unless it was just a distaste of a specific character). With that being said, with the (understandable) fact that we're not getting many newcomers, I love the fact that many fan favorites like , who likely wouldn't get in otherwise, are able to see the light of day. It opens the door for so many more awesome additions like Funky Kong, Ken, Octolings, etc., and I can't wait to see where they take this idea. I just hope they stick to characters to whom it wouldn't be a major disservice to put them in this role, but I have faith in Sakurai and the team.). Anything would be cool (even Stennee), I'm just expecting someone. 
I don't think this is serious; I see this as posturing more than anything. The two are creating fake beef between each other like Professional Wrestlers or Drama Youtubers for the sake of drumming up hype. If this is serious then I'm disappointed in ZeRo, but I think that this is a staged scenario to create hype for competitive Smash Ultimate (which it is).
There's a copypastq going around based on what Zero said but he deleted the tweet. Sonicfox's reply should still be up.
I mean. Zero's always been pretty crap imo, which is one of the reasons him getting bodied by Palutena was so hype
I guess we're all welcome to our opinions, but I never really gained a full understanding of why people feel that way. From what I have seen, he's a fierce competitor who does a ton to drive the scene forward. I don't expect him to be a perfect human, and I don't personally think he's done much to deserve hate. A lot of what he got during Smash 4 was just a bunch of babbies crying because he won all the tournaments and it got old. Hating him became a meme and people even threatened his life over winning all the tournaments.
Yeah, I saw, but I don't think that's a decent enough reason to blow the implications behind the tweet out of proportion and incessantly **** on him like you're doing now. They're seemingly on good terms, so I'm sure they've put that behind them.
Oh don't get me wrong, the threats on his life and **** are unwarranted. My issue is mostly with him being pretty dumb and seemingly not learning from past mistakes. If you bring old **** up he's the person to go "Well that was the past" and then hold a grudge because a 16 year old who didn't know him didn't get an anime power up when told good luck and how he somehow doxxed two of his friends on stream in the same way
Again it's not because of his plays or anything, I just don't like his personality.
I know Seagull Joe has an account on here, and that’s he pretty active on it too. Wonder what he thinks about Wolf?
I more so meant from people who played the game extensively (Dunno if Joe did or not) or videos with them talking and showing stuff but that's also good actually lmao. I know there's probably a thread for that kind of stuff too but idk where to look
Fair enough.
Several top players, including several who played in the invitational, have put up YouTube videos where they lay out their thoughts. I'll put your favorite one first
If you use Twitch, Mew2King is streaming right now. You could ask him some questions there.
Oh I actually already saw Zero's video on the character trailers, I may think he's a **** but he's easily the best 4 player so I kind of needed to ignore that even if I don't like his attitude to some stuff there and how he kind of forget the game's not exclusively aimed to competitiveSeveral top players, including several who played in the invitational, have put up YouTube videos where they lay out their thoughts. I'll put your favorite one first
Also potential NSFW for language.
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I think most professional players treat the game like its supposed to be competitive only. If you watch many of the videos of gameplay, they're all deliberately avoiding anything that isn't legal in competitive play. I understand, though. The competitive aspects are the parts I care about, and if I'm giving my perspective on the game, I'm going to point out ways that I think it could be better, and to me and the other competitive players those things that could make it better are competitive focused. Not to mention its the competitive community watching their videos so it's very possible they're going to try harder to appeal to that crowd. However I think that's not really the case since I can put myself in their shoes on at least some level.
I meant stuff like Zero getting mad at the cute gags and references in the character trailers because it's not giving info that he wants. Which is odd as he was really perplexed by the gag they did for Falco
Nope. Robin is MIA. It's not shown in the character trailer either.
Doubtful. As there's no point to swap the characters out like that.
The fact that Verg said that Simon's in means that any 'leak' is more likely than not going to slap Simon in because most people have it in the back of their mind that Simon is guaranteed.
Any reason why? I don't have a particular opinion of it one way or the other so I'm curious.
There was no Minecraft stage
What does that have to do with anything?
I don't think we have to wait until Wednesday. Pretty sure Verg himself said today that it was Konami's sports game that was under embargo.
Why should we suddenly think he's telling the truth now?
True, but at the same time, by saying it's the sports game, he's basically admitting to being wrong.
That's what I mean. If the sports game is real? It means he told the truth and simply trusted a bad source. Which happens.
Hmmm, you're probably right, but now I'm curious as to who will appear in the background of that stage. We know Silver is back, and I'm assuming Tails will still be there too. I'm guessing they're going to remove Knuckles from the background and replace him with someone like Amy? Although we do have Palkia as a pokeball pokemon and presumably still a stage hazard so who knows if they'll even bother removing Knuckles.
I can see Golden Plains returning with the coin total for each fighter on the HUD next to their portrait. Unless I'm missing something.
Considering one's in the background while the other is an AT and active, they might do nothing. Not much reason to worry about it, really, imo.
