Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Capybara Gaming]

I feel like Dev time this time around really doesn't restrict what can or can't be done.

I do think this late in development is too late for anyone beyond echo fighters or who debuted after around October last year or so (Rex & Pyra wouldn't count as their game was close to release and thus the development on them for Smash would likely have already begun)

 

[L9999]

It is known the roster is decided first then they go head on to programming. For all we know they started developing the game as soon as the Smash 4 DLC ended.

 

[DarkFalcon]

Inklings look seriously fun. I haven't played Splatoon all that much despite owning the 2nd game, but watching them in Smash I was all in. The game in general looks sped up but the Inklings looked so freakin fast.

 

[Dukeofdeath5]

Any new leaks, I’d even go for an obviously fake one just for laughs.

Some dude said Lip and Captain Rainbow were in along with a bunch of obvious guesses like Simon.

 

[Slavic]

I know some of us are running on the assumption that all (or very near all) stages are going to return alongside all veterans, and unfortunately one of my favs Brinstar Depths has not been seen yet. But like, I feel it's almost confirmed with that gorgeous new rendition posted on the Smash website, since Brinstar Depths only exists in Smash, it's not even an actual location name in the Metroid series. If they wanted the song, I doubt they would have named it after a Smash stage instead of just Kraid or Kraid's Hideout.

Basically, I just love the Melee Metroid stages and can't wait to play this version over as many things as the game will let me.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

Alright let's get it back on track, so post game who do you see as DLC considering we don't have any "absentees" this time around?

I personally think it might be

Rex & Pyra
Edelgard
Spring Man? (I kind of want someone else like Twintelle or Min Min...or even Dr. Coyle (I get that Spring Man / Ribbon Girl are the poster characters, but they're kind of boring vs. the other cast)

I think that, since they won't have to worry about old veterans, they'll go full promotion for their DLC fighters.

Not expecting too many, but I could see

1. Spring Man
2. Rex & Pyra
3. Edelgard
4. Gen 8 Pokemon
5. Third Party Character

 

[Deleted member]

Baldy from Baldys basics is a new character he must be

As a person who likes playing Baldi's Basics in Education and Learning...
I am sorry to break your dreams, it is literally an indie game not related to Nintendo.

 

[Deleted member]

Why Daisy smash why try maby the pacman ghost but not daisy

 

[Capybara Gaming]

Inklings look seriously fun. I haven't played Splatoon all that much despite owning the 2nd game, but watching them in Smash I was all in. The game in general looks sped up but the Inklings looked so freakin fast.

I have to agree. Frankly, I'm far more excited for Inklings (and Daisy) than I am for Ridley.

 

[?????????????]

Alright let's get it back on track, so post game who do you see as DLC considering we don't have any "absentees" this time around?

I personally think it might be

Rex & Pyra
Edelgard
Spring Man? (I kind of want someone else like Twintelle or Min Min...or even Dr. Coyle (I get that Spring Man / Ribbon Girl are the poster characters, but they're kind of boring vs. the other cast)

Those are the same I’m expecting, although Opossum (I think) had an interesting theory about Edelgard being a Jagen, so I think we need a bit more info first.

Perhaps we’ll eventually see an “8th Gen Pokemon” as well.

 

[DarkFalcon]

I know some of us are running on the assumption that all (or very near all) stages are going to return alongside all veterans, and unfortunately one of my favs Brinstar Depths has not been seen yet. But like, I feel it's almost confirmed with that gorgeous new rendition posted on the Smash website, since Brinstar Depths only exists in Smash, it's not even an actual location name in the Metroid series. If they wanted the song, I doubt they would have named it after a Smash stage instead of just Kraid or Kraid's Hideout.

Basically, I just love the Melee Metroid stages and can't wait to play this version over as many things as the game will let me.

You can see Brinstar Depths behind Ridley's portrait in the website, so I think it's pretty much confirmed back. That is Brinstar Depths right?

 

[Capybara Gaming]

Those are the same I’m expecting, although Opossum (I think) had an interesting theory about Edelgard being a Jagen, so I think we need a bit more info first.

Perhaps we’ll eventually see an “8th Gen Pokemon” as well.

Mind explaining what a "Jagen" is?

 

[KingBroly]

I have to agree. Frankly, I'm far more excited for Inklings (and Daisy) than I am for Ridley.

If the Inklings aren't Top Tier when the game launches, they will be shortly after

 

[?????????????]

Mind explaining what a "Jagen" is?

It’s a Fire Emblem trope; basically, a higher-leveled character you get at the beginning of the game to help with early maps. Recent examples would be Frederick and Gunter.

 

[Deleted member]

I hope sonic gets a buff

 

[Capybara Gaming]

It’s a Fire Emblem trope; basically, a higher-leveled character you get at the beginning of the game to help with early maps. Recent examples would be Frederick and Gunter.

Ah, I see. I hope not, she's the only one I liked out of the three we've seen so far.

 

[?????????????]

Ah, I see. I hope not, she's the only one I liked out of the three we've seen so far.

I agree. I want to see her be a full-blown main character.

 

[Slavic]

You can see Brinstar Depths behind Ridley's portrait in the website, so I think it's pretty much confirmed back. That is Brinstar Depths right?

I had to go look because that news would have made my night, but it looks like boring old shallow Brinstar unfortunately. An understandable confusion, since the names are very close

 

[Deleted member]

I am not to happy about inkling it will either be broke or will be a flop

 

[Skyblade12]

You can see Brinstar Depths behind Ridley's portrait in the website, so I think it's pretty much confirmed back. That is Brinstar Depths right?

No, that’s the regular Brinstar, with the explosives you can blow up to separate the platform and the rising acid.

Brinstar Depths is the one with Kraid, right?

 

[DarkFalcon]

I had to go look because that news would have made my night, but it looks like boring old shallow Brinstar unfortunately. An understandable confusion, since the names are very close

Oh, my bad. The one you're talking about is with Kraid in the background right? If so I'd like to see it return too, just so I can get HD Kraid. The Metroid series forgot he exists lol.

 

[Idon]

I am not to happy about inkling it will either be broke or will be a flop

what?

 

[Slavic]

Yeah, Depths has Kraid... slamming? rotating? the stage around during the fight. It's also the location of the god-forsaken Cold Fusion event in Melee that haunts me. But the beats are killer, so I can forgive.

 

[Deleted member]

what?

I just do not like the inklings them selves

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

I don't think we're getting a pic of the day tomarrow, it's the weekend. They'll probably come back Monday.

Not entirely true. Japanese site got a blog update today aka Saturday.

 

[Shroob]

Speaking of Kraid, that's always something that's bothered me about Metroid 'lore'.

Kraid's supposed to be a high ranking member of the space pirates but..... look at him. I doubt he can even leave Brinstar due to his immense size.

 

[Skyblade12]

Speaking of Kraid, that's always something that's bothered me about Metroid 'lore'.

Kraid's supposed to be a high ranking member of the space pirates but..... look at him. I doubt he can even leave Brinstar due to his immense size.

I thought he was just the largest creature on Zebes.

 

[Deleted member]

Who will be the best and worst characters in ultimate thoughts

 

[Slavic]

Speaking of Kraid, that's always something that's bothered me about Metroid 'lore'.

Kraid's supposed to be a high ranking member of the space pirates but..... look at him. I doubt he can even leave Brinstar due to his immense size.

It was a joke a few days ago but like I could get down on an Ultimate-style redesign of Kraid for incorporation into Smash. But yeah, even more so than Ridley it's confounding he could be a part of any sort of organized crime or huge plot (maybe that's why Metroid dumped him).

 

[?????????????]

It was a joke a few days ago but like I could get down on an Ultimate-style redesign of Kraid for incorporation into Smash. But yeah, even more so than Ridley it's confounding he could be a part of any sort of organized crime or huge plot (maybe that's why Metroid dumped him).

Maybe the Space Pirates just have an absurdly large ship for all their gigantic members.

Or maybe...Kraid IS the ship!!

 

[NintenZ]

Ridley would have been more exciting if he wasn’t leaked

 

[Slavic]

When and if Brinstar Depths is shown for Ultimate, we'll basically have the entire cast of the original Metroid present which would be exciting (I assume Mother Brain is back as an AT?) Samus, Ridley, Kraid, Mother Brain, and even the lil Metroid

 

[?????????????]

(I assume Mother Brain is back as an AT?)

Yes, that’s been confirmed.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

When and if Brinstar Depths is shown for Ultimate, we'll basically have the entire cast of the original Metroid present which would be exciting (I assume Mother Brain is back as an AT?) Samus, Ridley, Kraid, Mother Brain, and even the lil Metroid

Mother Brain was shown off, in the GameExplain video. As well as among the streams.

Besides that, we just need Simon for the main Captain N protagonists. Of course, King HIppo and Eggplant Wizard as AT's/trophies would be cool too...

 

[L9999]

I just do not like the inklings them selves

They look interesting. A lot of tools to control space with a unique gimmick.

 

[Jubileus57]

Speaking of stages (I pretty much assume they will all come back), I cannot wait to see the 3DS Rainbow Road in HD. It would be spectacular.

 

[?????????????]

Do you think echoes HAVE to be the same size as their counterparts?

 

[Aeronite's Kiseki]

I've been thinking but what are the chances of Jibanyan? I don't think I've seen him come up anywhere in predictions?

 

[Tree Gelbman]

It is known the roster is decided first then they go head on to programming. For all we know they started developing the game as soon as the Smash 4 DLC ended.

I think they did. I mean Trinen said 4 year cycle, but that could've been misinterpretation.

However there was the job posting by Bandai Namco DURING the creation of DLC if I'm not mistaken for a Smash 6.

Internally Sakurai considers Smash Wii U and Smash 3DS separate games and thus they would be 4 and 5.

So I do think production started early with the knowledge of the Switch's kit and an intent to get everyone back in the game.

It'll be interesting to see just how much content does get into the game if THIS is the case.

 

[Slavic]

Do you think echoes HAVE to be the same size as their counterparts?

Technically, at least in Smash 4, Lucina is marginally shorter than Marth. Who did you have in mind?