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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Capybara Gaming

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That's what I thought for ROB in Brawl leak and yet he magically popped in. It wouldn't be a first time.
Yeah, but the difference here is the R.O.B. actually had a major impact on not just Nintendo but gaming as an entirety. Beyond that, he's a legitimate retro. I don't think anything beyond the SNES/64 era can count as "retro."
 

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For the nth time, I'm taking this with a grain of salt, but I highly doubt that it's the real guy. If I get undeniable proof of this "leak" being legitimate, then I might believe it a bit.
 
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Damnit I fell for it lol, didn't notice the difference, well played vergeben vergeben .

And now there's a DasVerzeihen viewing the thread, what's with the theme of forgiveness related names with vergeben and verzeihen anyway?
There was a dude earlier trying to discredit Vergeben by bringing that up.

I'm gonna bet it's him having a go with a ton of alternate accounts.
 

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Look, man, I'm already bummed that this guy is most likely a faker. I don't need to feel worse.



My reasoning amounts to "his leak has a character I really want in it".
If it makes you feel better, I don't actually have anything against Lip; I was just putting his character down to make him feel bad about putting others' characters down.

Just my way of saying, it's okay to not like a character, but there's no reason to be an ass about it.

Ok, DasVergeben DasVergeben vergeben vergeben DasVerzeihen DasVerzeihen , which one of you, if any, are real? Well actually, we know the latter two are fake thanks to the reddit post, so is the first real? Do tell!
They're all going to claim they're real; asking them is completely pointless. Let the mods deal with this nonsense.
 

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Moderation is on it. All posts by the user will be deleted until they can prove themselves, which considering the reddit link earlier(which the post it linked to is deleted) is fake... yeah.

Also, stop baiting each other into arguments about characters. It's not worth it. Cool your jets and be nice to each other.
 

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They're all going to claim they're real; asking them is completely pointless. Let the mods deal with this nonsense.
I know they're all fake. I'm just having fun with it at this point.
There was a dude earlier trying to discredit Vergeben by bringing that up.

I'm gonna bet it's him having a go with a ton of alternate accounts.
Whababa Whababa is your guy.
 

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R.O.B, Game&Watch, and Wii Fit Trainer are tech reps. They are random and no one could predict them, but there's a method to their madness.

Captain Rainbow.... not so much
Well to dive further, I was looking at more Japanese exclusives at the time like Marth/Roy back in Melee, which were heavily unknown unless you played FE way back then. Captain Rainbow fills that void of being unknown until Smash representation. But once again, possible or not, I wouldn't be surprised about it.
 

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Whababa also joined yesterday apparently.

But I'm gonna stop finger pointing, because it could get out of hand and I apologize in advance.
 

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Moderation is on it. All posts by the user will be deleted until they can prove themselves, which considering the reddit link earlier(which the post it linked to is deleted) is fake... yeah.

Also, stop baiting each other into arguments about characters. It's not worth it. Cool your jets and be nice to each other.
Thank you for your diligence.
 

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Yeah this guy who claims he's Das needs to get verified or get banned.

Yeah but it doesn't have to be an absurdly small amount like some people are thinking.

Having realistic expecations is fine but you don't have to be overly pessimistic.
How am I being pessimistic exactly? If you count Echoes, we've got 3 new characters, in addition to 7 returning (Ice Climbers, Ivysaur, Squirtle, Snake, Pichu, Wolf and Toon Link), we're at 10 additional characters from the past game. Right now, we are in the ballpark of what's added character-wise for new Smash games, albeit on the low end.
 

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While disappointing, I'm still going to hold out for Lip showing up as playable. Ain't no one gonna break my stride.
 

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He really shot himself in the foot posting that on reddit, where Verg has a verified account.
Not that he was credible before that or anything.

Surprised no one tried pulling this scheme earlier. Then again I'm surprised we don't have an account called 'Emily Rogers' running around talking ****. :p
 

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He really shot himself in the foot posting that on reddit, where Verg has a verified account.
Not that he was credible before that or anything.

Surprised no one tried pulling this scheme earlier. Then again I'm surprised we don't have an account called 'Emily Rogers' running around talking ****. :p
Don't give anyone ideas!
 

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For the sake of true fans, I hope Lip makes it in. Most of you guys are pretty chill.
Well, we've been beaten so thoroughly into dust at this point in time by Nintendo and Intelligent Systems ignoring us to shill Fire Emblem and limit Panel de Pon's representation in Smash Bros.--the series's one hope of coming back at this point--that most of us...sorta can't help but be mellow. If we're anything more than that, we're setting ourselves up for disappointment. But I'm hoping every day that this is our girl's chance to take the spotlight and show the world what she can do.
 

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Well to dive further, I was looking at more Japanese exclusives at the time like Marth/Roy back in Melee, which were heavily unknown unless you played FE way back then. Captain Rainbow fills that void of being unknown until Smash representation. But once again, possible or not, I wouldn't be surprised about it.
Fire Emblem was a successful franchise in Japan though, and also melee was made 17 years ago, japanese only characters aren't considered anymore (lucas doesn't really count, sakurai didn't know his game wasn't gonna release worldwide)
 
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Well, we've been beaten so thoroughly into dust at this point in time by Nintendo and Intelligent Systems ignoring us to shill Fire Emblem and limit Panel de Pon's representation in Smash Bros.--the series's one hope of coming back at this point--that most of us...sorta can't help but be mellow. If we're anything more than that, we're setting ourselves up for disappointment. But I'm hoping every day that this is our girl's chance to take the spotlight and show the world what she can do.
That's how I always felt about Takamaru.
 

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Fire Emblem was a successful franchise in Japan though, and also melee was made 17 years ago, japanese only characters aren't considered anymore (lucas doesn't really count, sakurai didn't know his game wasn't gonna release worldwide)
Doesn't change the fundamental thought of being an actual surprise factor if he was to be introduced. The list there does lack proof, but turning a blind eye to it is not recommended.
 

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Captain Rainbow as a surprise factor is hardly impossible. But I wouldn't really look much into it.

That, and most of those guesses were really goddamn easy. It matches almost everything people were thinking could happen on this site. How typical.
 

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The funny thing is the list wasn't that
Doesn't change the fundamental thought of being an actual surprise factor if he was to be introduced. The list there does lack proof, but turning a blind eye to it is not recommended.
But what evidence is there that Sakurai has ever put a character in just for the surprise factor?
I mean yeah, he's put characters in that were complete surprises for us. But, he has actual reasons for their inclusions beyond "this would catch everybody off guard."

There's really no example of him doing anything close to that
 
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Nothing is set in stone, yet, to the public at least.

We could still get everyones favourite WTF character, Doshin the Giant.
 

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Captain Rainbow as a surprise factor is hardly impossible. But I wouldn't really look much into it.

That, and most of those guesses were really goddamn easy. It matches almost everything people were thinking could happen on this site. How typical.
Yeah the only real lists are the ones that people would dismiss and/or get angry about.
 

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Leakers gotta get creative now. They can't rely on the ol' "let's just list some returning vets and hope people buy it" song and dance anymore. Gotta think up all new characters for every leak.
 

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Leakers gotta get creative now. They can't rely on the ol' "let's just list some returning vets and hope people buy it" song and dance anymore. Gotta think up all new characters for every leak.
It's actually worse than that.

"Leakers" usually get called out all the time for making easy guesses.

But now more than ever, with everyone in this game being chosen for fan requests, it's a case of easy guesses being the most likely.

K. Rool, Elma, etcetera...

All the top polled and requested characters are now more likely than ever.
 

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Oh well, but don't be surprise if it's true or not.
If Captain Rainbow is in Ultimate I will be THOROUGHLY surprised.

But not as surprised as everyone else in the world that weren't around to see that fake leakers list, as I'm pretty certain most of the smash community don't even know who Captain Rainbow is.
 

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Doesn't change the fundamental thought of being an actual surprise factor if he was to be introduced. The list there does lack proof, but turning a blind eye to it is not recommended.
I think after Corrin, Sakurai's going to be wary off adding a new Fire Emblem character. At least, not until other boxes are checked.

IMO, Decidueye has gone out the window now that Pokemon Trainer is back. You have a Grass Type now to fill that Triangle.

I just have this feeling that Mario, Zelda and Metroid each get another rep before its' all said and done.

I also believe that we'll see a Dragon Quest AT in the form of Slime, and maybe Rathalos from Monster Hunter
 

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Oh well, but don't be surprise if it's true or not.
The leak is fake. It's from a random person online with no evidence or history, trying to impersonate someone else to increase their credibility.

That does not mean that the roster they proposed is impossible.

I predict K. Rool, Elma, Isaac, Dixie, and Bandana Dee as the most likely up and comers. If they all get in, does that mean this "leak" is accurate? No. It just means I made a lucky guess or was able to accurately predict what Sakurai was looking for in characters.
 

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Oh well, but don't be surprise if it's true or not.
I'm going to be shocked if that leak from here is real, why would Vergeben make three different accounts and fail to verify any of them, then post his leak into a newly created alt on reddit? To look fake, and get less attention than he normally would? Why would he ever want that? It's fake.
 
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