Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

They should have you start with the original 12 or 8, then have you unlock characters with Smash Coins or something. You earn coins by doing literally anything like in Melee or Brawl, then you just spend them to unlock the characters you want. Characters get slightly more expensive with each unlock but it never gets stupidly grindy or anything. So say you want Ridley, you just beat Classic Mode out of the box, and go buy him. You do a quick fight (if you lose you can rematch for free), unlock him, bada-bing! You don't have to work your way through all the Dark Pits and Lucinas to get to the characters you actually want!

Actually if you listen to the direct

I think sakurai said the original 12 are the starters.

They are absolutely not removing the do a certain objective then defeat that character thing for sure

I think it will Justin be simpler to put the unlock condition for each character on the challenge board and the hammer thing to skip challenge after you leave the character will challenge you then take you to the select screen after the pick the battle begins

 

[Polan]

this e3 has been validating vergeben and his sources on a near constant basis and people still think he's not legit? jesus man do people need sakurai to namedrop his leaks or something?

 

[RedMarf78]

Thank god for that tweet

 

[Mogu]

this e3 has been validating vergeben and his sources on a near constant basis and people still think he's not legit? jesus man do people need sakurai to namedrop his leaks or something?

Do you need me to answer that? If you do, yes, they do.

I can see even if Simon and the Minecraft content got revealed soon that some people would be like "eh, still not confirmed that the leak is legit."

 

[Deleted member]

Wait, why are people talking about Simon being potentially scrapped or false?

I don't recall the source ever saying Simon Belmont would be revealed at E3. Only Ridley.

 

[SlickWylde]

If someone is bummed out that a character they were rooting for didn't make it in and is hoping others can relate to them, I think there are plenty of people who will (and have already, I'm noticing) be more than happy to do that, as they also didn't get characters they wanted.

But I don't think a "I'm going to leave, don't try and convince me to stay" attitude is fun for any of us to see on here. Not naming names, but I've seen this (and I've done it myself in younger years) a lot when dealing with Smash Bros stuff.

Anyway I'm not able to watch the tournament as I'm at work. How similar is it playing to Sm4sh? Also, is it just me or does the knockback look really weird? Characters start out with a lot of momentum then seem to slow down...

 

[Hinata]

So, mods. When are the premium members getting the option to have Smash Ultimate renders displayed in their posts? We have all the renders available.

 

[Fenriraga]

Guys.

GUYS.

I played it.

I'll give my thoughts later.

 

[Zerp]

Smash Ultimate is not a port, but this Grand Finals feels like it was ported straight from Smash 4 lol.

 

[papagenos]

this e3 has been validating vergeben and his sources on a near constant basis and people still think he's not legit? jesus man do people need sakurai to namedrop his leaks or something?

people STILL dont believe gematsu to this day. so ya... people think leakers are "psychics" who can predict exactly what will happen in the future instead of ya know, just someone who has some info but have no idea how it'll play out, how we'll actually be given that info or how it will be implemented in the final game.

 

[BluePikmin11]

No he isn't.
Someone asked the leaker if Geno was in the game and the leaker said that they didn't know about any newcomers other than Inklings.

My mistake. So much things are happening today, trying to catch up as much as possible. :9

 

[AwesomeAussie27]

And I will say sorry to you as well, for not only making an *** of myself here (which is embracing you enough for the day, but making you upset to.

If only I can at least try to be a better man than fail all the time.

Just a mild correction, the word you are looking for is "embarrassing".

And I am glad you were able to give Toad an apology since he didn't do anything to deserve that. I'm upset by what happened to Lyn, but you don't see me going crazy over it.

There's next time, even if it will take quite a while.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Guys.

GUYS.

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I played it.

I'll give my thoughts later.

Were any of the Echo Fighters choosable?

More importantly, are they simply just reskins with new taunts or actually different characters ala Smash 4 Lucina? This is important.

 

[P.Kat]

I still can't believe Ridley killed Mario and Mega Man

Arm yourselves fellow warriors, this monster is a blight upon our land who must stopped before he takes away another victim... like Jigglypuff.

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

Zelda is so cute!!!! I love how Sakurai finally decided to let Zelda characters be based on different Zelda games instead of just one or two Zelda games.

Melee
= Ocarina of Time

Brawl and SSB4
= Twilight Princess
= The Wind Waker

Ultimate
= Breath of the Wild
= Ocarina of Time 3D
= A Link Between Worlds
= The Wind Waker HD

Finally. No more Twilight Princess. But I wish SSB4 had Link and Zelda based on Skyward Sword.

I can't get over how cute Zelda looks! I love that haircut... almost reminds me of the 1980s and early 1990s for some reason.

I just find it so weird that they gave sheik a BOTW look, it's so random, they should've just used her Ocarina design imo

 

[T-Hell]

Gameplay looks super fast, like almost Melee level.

 

[Zerp]

Arm yourselves fellow warriors, this monster is a blight upon our land who must stopped before he takes away another victim... like Jigglypuff.

You really think that poor Dragon type stands a chance against a Fairy?

 

[SuperSmashStephen]

With the announcement that every single character in Smash history is returning, how many newcomers are you guys expecting now?

It’s hard to say. All and all I see a “low” newcomer count being between 8-10 total newcomers for the base roster. It’d be the smallest amount of newcomers since Melee. That being said, DLC is always a possibility, and likely highly probable. Nintendo/Sakurai know how successful Smash is.

DLC could give us another 5-8 characters. So. All and all, post DLC, I believe we could have a newcomer count between 13-18. 13 is a little pessimistic, and 18 is a little optimistic, so I’m telling myself it’s somewhere between that. I personally think they’ll be 15 after it’s all said and done. That’s plenty.

I'm worried we're only going to see like 3 more newcomers. I hope I'm wrong.

I think we’ll see 5-7 more for base roster, and there’s always hope for DLC.

 

[UltimateWario]

You really think that poor Dragon type stands a chance against a Fairy?

Just switch to the Meta Ridley alt. Jigglypuff isn't going to stand up to STAB Iron Tail even with Eviolite.

 

[ToddCam]

Just a reminder, since it's being used continuously. Deconfirm is not a word. Disconfirm is the correct one.

A lot of those disconfirmations. Assist Trophies/Poké Balls are such a double-edged sword.

One of the characters I have wanted to have for a long time, Waluigi, is an AT again. Not to insult Daisy, but I think Waluigi's uniqueness is part of what kept him from being playable. Whether Daisy has potential for a non-echo moveset, her resemblance to Peach allowed her to get that treatment. Oh well.

I actually really like the echo character idea. It "legitimizes" clones in a way. If I can only have them this way, I'd be ok with Dixie Kong and Impa in as echoes.

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

They said that you start with the original twelve but there's a more streamlined way than before of unlocking the rest, I wonder what that could be though? I mean subspace did a good job of that in brawl so maybe a story mode is coming back

 

[Zinith]

They said that you start with the original twelve but there's a more streamlined way than before of unlocking the rest, I wonder what that could be though? I mean subspace did a good job of that in brawl so maybe a story mode is coming back

Maybe by streamlined they mean "more streamlined than Smash 4." You will literally have every character after 50 matches

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

Just a reminder, since it's being used continuously. Deconfirm is not a word. Disconfirm is the correct one.

A lot of those disconfirmations. Assist Trophies/Poké Balls are such a double-edged sword.

One of the characters I have wanted to have for a long time, Waluigi, is an AT again. Not to insult Daisy, but I think Waluigi's uniqueness is part of what kept him from being playable. Whether Daisy has potential for a non-echo moveset, her resemblance to Peach allowed her to get that treatment. Oh well.

I actually really like the echo character idea. It "legitimizes" clones in a way. If I can only have them this way, I'd be ok with Dixie Kong and Impa in as echoes.

Dixie doesn't really work as an echo since she can't do his tail attacks or use his peanuts or jetpack, in general dixie is very different in everything but body type, I feel his moveset as a whole wouldn't translate well to her. The problem with impa is that her options for a design are pretty much just skyward sword and hyrule warriors, the SS proportions don't match up and HW impa doesn't fight like sheik would. There's ocarina of time impa but does anybody really like that design lol.

 

[Zoa]

Anyone else just thoroughly unimpressed with the game so far? It seems like barely anything has changed from Smash 4, and I don't like how it plays at all...

 

[Jexulus]

They said that you start with the original twelve but there's a more streamlined way than before of unlocking the rest, I wonder what that could be though? I mean subspace did a good job of that in brawl so maybe a story mode is coming back

There will likely be a dipswitch in the Options menu to unlock all the characters and stages, since there's already such an effort to appeal to the competitive scene.
That said, you might not have to fight and beat the character to unlock them this time.

 

[Arcadenik]

I just find it so weird that they gave sheik a BOTW look, it's so random, they should've just used her Ocarina design imo

It's not so random when Link can wear the Sheik outfit in Breath of the Wild.

 

[Nani?]

Anyone else just thoroughly unimpressed with the game so far? It seems like barely anything has changed from Smash 4, and I don't like how it plays at all...

...

(It seems as though you are the only one.)

 

[Chandeelure]

The sound effects are awesome.

 

[MoonlitIllusion]

Anyone else just thoroughly unimpressed with the game so far? It seems like barely anything has changed from Smash 4, and I don't like how it plays at all...

I like what I've seen so far but it does feel like it's retreading old ground, I need to see more newcomers, more new stages and more new modes, it just feels like an amalgamation of previous smash games right now.

Although tbh ridley makes the game for me, I'll buy it just for him.

Visually the change is nice though, although some characters like Roy and Corrin look strangely almost exactly like their smash 4 counterparts.

 

[StrangeMann]

Anyone else just thoroughly unimpressed with the game so far? It seems like barely anything has changed from Smash 4, and I don't like how it plays at all...

I personally think it's a better version of Smash 4's gameplay. Visually and audio wise the game is fantastic, and most of the changes make the game less defensive in nature. This causes a more punish-heavy meta.

 

[Inawordyes]

I just read the ResetEra megathread to see the reactions during the Direct.

Yikes. Why is everybody so negative about see Smash's blowout when we were literally told this was what the Direct was going to primarily focus on?

 

[YoshiandToad]

Did ANYONE manage to get a screenshot of Abra?

This is my biggest unspoken desire to see him as a Pokeball Pokemon.

 

[RedMarf78]

Does the knockback look clunky to anyone else (like the acceleration and deceleration) or is that just me?

 

[Zerp]

Anyone else just thoroughly unimpressed with the game so far? It seems like barely anything has changed from Smash 4, and I don't like how it plays at all...

Yeah, I'm not really impressed over here, it has promise, but it looks like the Smash 4 Top Tiers haven't been nerfed sufficiently, and it makes me doubt how effective Bottom Tier buffs will be, it looks like Smash 4 2.0 right now.

 

[Nani?]

Does the knockback look clunky to anyone else (like the acceleration and deceleration) or is that just me?

Other people are saying this, but personally, I can't see it.

 

[SlickWylde]

Does the knockback look clunky to anyone else (like the acceleration and deceleration) or is that just me?

Yeah I was saying the exact same thing! I'm not worried though, that's the kind of stuff I'm sure they're taking feedback on.

 

[Khao]

When Sm4sh came out, I had literally one complaint and one complaint alone about the gameplay.

Airdodges were too safe and spammable.

So I'm actually pretty satisfied with the gameplay, haha. Still, the game doesn't seem identical beyond that. Movement seem to be a lot faster than before. I dig the new power shield too.

 

[Wyoming]

I just read the ResetEra megathread to see the reactions during the Direct.

Yikes. Why is everybody so negative about see Smash's blowout when we were literally told this was what the Direct was going to primarily focus on?

Nintendo fans tend to be...a bit salty when they don't get the one game they want. Animal Crossing and Metroid fans being the outspoken ones today it seems. Both will get their time.

I was honestly impressed by their third party library so I didn't mind the lack of news besides Smash.

 

[Zinith]

I'm loving Sonic's stock icon...

 

[Jexulus]

Anyone else just thoroughly unimpressed with the game so far? It seems like barely anything has changed from Smash 4, and I don't like how it plays at all...

This was likely intentional, since Smash for Wii U was supposed to be the system seller for the Wii U and obviously did not. The engine re-use also gave them a lot more time to refine animations and mechanics this time around, instead of having to spend a significant amount of time building yet another engine. There are a ton of new animations this time around compared to Brawl>Wii U.