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[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Nintendo's E3 2018 Direct will be 45 minutes long pic.twitter.com/9tSfpgzX2i

— Nintendeal (@Nintendeal) June 6, 2018

I dunno if this has been posted already, but it seems we have a length for Nintendo's presentation.

More than enough room for Ridley in this.

(And Simon, snake and iceys?)

 

[PeridotGX]

This might sound weird, but does anyone find it thrilling when you find out more and more characters get deconfirmed for Smash? Some characters you might have really wanted. Some you might have not cared about at all. Either way, it always has me on the edge of my seat. It's like a warped version of Survivor, only it's for video game characters who want to get in Smash.

Yeah, I find it pretty neat to see a character disconfirmed. Though you could assume so, considering the thread I run

 

[Sigran101]

More than enough room for Ridley in this.

(And Simon, snake and iceys?)

You think that's enough room for Ridley? It would have to be pretty dang BIG to fit Ridley.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Twitch says the Direct will be around 45 minutes. Nintendo has also delisted both the Switch Presentation and last year's E3 Spolight.

That's not a bad thing Is it
(The delist part)

 

[KingIceSonic]

45 minutes are alot actually, just if you think about how much time each trailer and reveal will eat think about this
metroid if shown will take up to 4-8 minutes
Smash might eat away up to 10 if we have it throughout the entire directeach game reveal and mention durreng a fast rush takes 30 seconds adding to about 3-5 minutes of small things
also alot of talking niot just trailers, so i guess 7 minutes of just talking to us
and bam the direct is over

you can fit maybe 3-4 big trailers in this, 3-4 big announcements, then like 10 .15 small rusn announcements
and talking
I think at least, maybe somebody has a better idea about this

They are going to spend a good 5-10 minutes just showing off Fortnite for Nintendo Switch

That game is on every electronic system know to man but it still generates hype so I know Nintendo will make a long trailer for it.

I'm glad Fortnite is coming to switch but we don't need a long gameplay trailer for a game that is literally free on every other console. If you're watching E3 then you probably have the device to play Fortnite already.

 

[Dee Dude]

Inb4 the 45 minutes is gameplay footage of Mario vs Link on Battlefield 3.0, a brief look of Inkling, and a special reveal at the end.......


Smash Tour Plus with McDonalds exclusive Amiibos.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

They are going to spend a good 5-10 minutes just showing off Fortnite for Nintendo Switch

That game is on every electronic system know to man but it still generates hype so I know Nintendo will make a long trailer for it.

I'm glad Fortnite is coming to switch but we don't need a long gameplay trailer for a game that is literally free on every other console. If you're watching E3 then you probably have the device to play Fortnite already.

Unless you sold everything to be there in person.

 

[CrusherMania1592]

They are going to spend a good 5-10 minutes just showing off Fortnite for Nintendo Switch

That game is on every electronic system know to man but it still generates hype so I know Nintendo will make a long trailer for it.

I'm glad Fortnite is coming to switch but we don't need a long gameplay trailer for a game that is literally free on every other console. If you're watching E3 then you probably have the device to play Fortnite already.

Or they can just make it a 2-3 minute video and have all the noobs shut up and play it after E-3. Smash is more important than Fortnite

 

[Arcadenik]

Even spanish gaming websites are reporting Vergeben's "leaks".

I think that makes sense. I believe Castlevania is very popular in Latin America. The Simon4Smash Facebook group has a lot of Hispanic/Latino fans from Brazil (#1), Mexico (#2), and other Latin American countries.

a brand new Animal Crossing

Yes. I need this. I want a new Animal Crossing game for the Switch. Bigger and better than New Leaf and Pocket Camp combined.

 

[Garteam]

They are going to spend a good 5-10 minutes just showing off Fortnite for Nintendo Switch

That game is on every electronic system know to man but it still generates hype so I know Nintendo will make a long trailer for it.

I'm glad Fortnite is coming to switch but we don't need a long gameplay trailer for a game that is literally free on every other console. If you're watching E3 then you probably have the device to play Fortnite already.

I doubt Fortnite will take that long. My guess is there'll be a 30 second lead-up and introduction, one minute to sell people who aren't already on-board with the game, and possibly another minute if there's Switch exclusive content.

 

[PlayerOneTyler]

I doubt Fortnite will take that long. My guess is there'll be a 30 second lead-up and introduction, one minute to sell people who aren't already on-board with the game, and possibly another minute if there's Switch exclusive content.

And then another minute for the Smash x Fortnite Battle Royale trailer.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

If Nintendo switch presentation stuff got delisted

Isn't that bad thing? I mean I know the smash thing is still on OFCOARSE.

 

[Irarius]

this game also could be just a super smash bros meele with all the new characters :D i mean maybe we get this game to be hardcore asf
<.< https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=6rxg4zWutWU
this is going to be in my playlist for the 1 hours before the direct, LETS GOOOO

 

[ReeseBalaski]

I'll have to break out of the summer blues of sleeping in so I can wake up early to watch the presentation.

 

[Zinith]

30 minutes of the Direct taken up by Yoshi's Flipping Island (yes, I'm gonna keep calling it that) will be my dream come true.

I just want to see the world burn

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

Any interesting developments happen over the past 12 hours or so?

 

[StrangeMann]

Any interesting developments happen over the past 12 hours or so?

Direct seems to be 30-45 minutes iirc, and vergeben doubling down on his stuff. Otherwise not much.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Well Frogger was a big deal in terms of video game history...what exactly could he do though since aside from a long tongue and high jumps(hi Yoshi and Greninja) I'm not sure what else Frogger has to work with?

INSPIRE PLEASE.

Sure, I can make a quick move-set and play-style:

Neutral-B: Tongue Lash: Frogger quickly whips out his tongue to paralyze the opponent for a very short period of time that allows Frogger to attack freely. The tongue automatically homes at the opponent within its area. Can be rapidly used to paralyze multiple opponents. If abused too much, Frogger tires out and is vulnerable to attack.

Side-B: Thrust Jump: Frogger leans charges for a horizontal spin jump attack. The longer you charge, the greater the distance. When the move is active, Frogger can dodge by pressing the special button, and pressing B again allows Frogger to do a quick, but weak counterattack. If abused too much, Frogger tires out and is vulnerable to attack.

Down-B: Vehicle: Frogger summons a vehicle, avoiding the vehicle by jumping from behind. These vehicles range from powerful to weak: trucks, cars, buses, motorcycles, bicycles. The vehicle chosen is randomized. If Frogger is tired out when using this move, Frogger will end up being hit by the vehicle.

Up-B: High-Jump: Functions similarly Thrust Jump. You can jump a high vertical distance, spin-jump attack, be able to dodge in mid-air, and counter too. The special move does not have the weakness of tiring Frogger out, but if Frogger uses this move while in a tired state from using Neutral-B, the vertical distance travelled will be far lower.

Frogger would basically be an evading master in Smash, staying true to how Frogger plays in the arcade game. He can dodge-roll quickly, side-step quickly, a plethora of moves that help Frogger escape from the most tight situations. When Frogger successfully avoids an attack from an opponent, he is awarded stamina, which recovers his special moves back to its normal state. The weaknesses he would have is his weak attack power, being VERY lightweight, and being able to tire out if Frogger uses his special moves too much. In return, he is a character with masterful mobility. If I could name his play-style, he would be called the "Evasive Martial Artist".

This was surprisingly fun to construct. I actually want Frogger even more badly now.

 

[Zeox]

I just rewatched the Super Mario Bros movie.
...
I just can't think on a clever thing to say about it, is so weird and have so little to do with the games that it totally could be it's own movie... but the actor that had the role of Mario did a good job, he really looked like a real life Mario.

 

[Roberk]

Hey, here's a Sakurai tweet. No jokes.

もちろん、何かご紹介しますよ。こういうの、久しぶり…。 https://t.co/VP0KTdoAjx

— 桜井 政博 / Masahiro Sakurai (@Sora_Sakurai) June 5, 2018

Translation: "Of course, I will introduce something. It's been a while..."

Apparently, this was yesterday, but I haven't seen anyone talk about it. I think Sakurai will be in the Smash reveal detailing the game for us.

 

[Zinith]

Hey, here's a Sakurai tweet. No jokes.

もちろん、何かご紹介しますよ。こういうの、久しぶり…。 https://t.co/VP0KTdoAjx

— 桜井 政博 / Masahiro Sakurai (@Sora_Sakurai) June 5, 2018

Translation: "Of course, I will introduce something. It's been a while..."

Oh yeah, we've known that

 

[Pacack]

Well, if Simon AND Snake come in, that would make two third parties-
We always had two third parties join EXCEPT DLC
Brawl:Snake Sonic
Smash4 : Pac-man/Megaman
Switch: Simon/Snake?
THOUGH Not going to lie...I'm one of the few people who would love more third parties getting announced, but for me. Third parties are mostly Either E3 surprise, or Smash Direct surprise-

I mean, we've gotten two third parties all of two times. Not exactly a pattern yet.

There's every possibility of three or four third parties, even. No reason to assume we're stuck at two for base roster.

 

[Nebunera]

I'm so hyped for E3 that I am literally hook my PC to my TV, get some popcorn (not really), sit back and relax so I can watch E3 in a better experience.

this game also could be just a super smash bros meele with all the new characters :D i mean maybe we get this game to be hardcore asf
<.< https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=6rxg4zWutWU
this is going to be in my playlist for the 1 hours before the direct, LETS GOOOO

I expect it to be the same engine as Smash 4, just with Nintendo having more support for the esports scene, which would be perfect.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Well, if Simon AND Snake come in, that would make two third parties-
We always had two third parties join EXCEPT DLC
Brawl:Snake Sonic
Smash4 : Pac-man/Megaman
Switch: Simon/Snake?
THOUGH Not going to lie...I'm one of the few people who would love more third parties getting announced, but for me. Third parties are mostly Either E3 surprise, or Smash Direct surprise-

Wouldnt it make more sense for this “pattern” to involve two new 3rd party reveals instead of a new and returning character?

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Hey, here's a Sakurai tweet. No jokes.

もちろん、何かご紹介しますよ。こういうの、久しぶり…。 https://t.co/VP0KTdoAjx

— 桜井 政博 / Masahiro Sakurai (@Sora_Sakurai) June 5, 2018

Translation: "Of course, I will introduce something. It's been a while..."

Apparently, this was yesterday, but I haven't seen anyone talk about it. I think Sakurai will be in the Smash reveal detailing the game for us.

Come on man I'm trying to be patient for Monday to end the vergeben rumor

 

[Gameboi834]

I expect it to be the same engine as Smash 4, just with Nintendo having more support for the esports scene, which would be perfect.

Don't expect more esports support. You will be disappointed.

 

[Roberk]

Oh yeah, we've known that

This thread is 2fast4me with finals and E3 lol.

 

[Gameboi834]

Well Frogger was a big deal in terms of video game history...what exactly could he do though since aside from a long tongue and high jumps(hi Yoshi and Greninja) I'm not sure what else Frogger has to work with?

INSPIRE PLEASE.

There was a 3D Frogger platformer, they could pull from there.

 

[Deleted member]

Come on man I'm trying to be patient for Monday to end the vergeben rumor

Actually, it’s on Tuesday.

 

[monadoboy]

A character being dead is a very poor reason to keep them out tbh

Ganondorf's kinda dead in TP anyway.
Are there any other characters in Smash that are confirmed dead in any way? (Like Marth and Ike in Awakening)

 

[SlickWylde]

T-Hell TMNTSSB4 Smashoperatingbuddy123 Llort A. Ton Originality

T-Hell: Sorry you thought I was being negative, it's just my humor. I would love if these characters got in the game. And like someone else pointed out, I'm making a bet that not all of them are getting in.

I'm not saying literally none of them are getting in.

I really really hope IC's at least are back!

For those that took me on: I lose the bet if ALL of those characters get in, not just one of them.

 

[Zippo]

If Nintendo switch presentation stuff got delisted

Isn't that bad thing? I mean I know the smash thing is still on OFCOARSE.

No. Nintendo has done this before. They want the focus on next week's games and next week's games alone.

 

[CyberHyperPhoenix]

Actually, it’s on Tuesday.

Actually, it's on Wednesday.

ButonlybecauseI'minAustralia...

 

[Originality]

Originality

T-Hell: Sorry you thought I was being negative, it's just my humor. I would love if these characters got in the game. And like someone else pointed out, I'm making a bet that not all of them are getting in.

I'm not saying literally none of them are getting in.

I really really hope IC's at least are back!

For those that took me on: I lose the bet if ALL of those characters get in, not just one of them.

Yes I understand, still taking the bet

 

[Guybrush20X6]

So who wants to bet we'll be up to 1500 pages by the weekend?

 

[SonicMario]

BluePikmin11

Hey Blue, real quick what was your reaction to Cloud anyway. I tried maybe searching for your reaction here, but it seems the new Smashboards has kinda borked up searching old posts.

 

[StupendousMike]

Ganondorf's kinda dead in TP anyway.
Are there any other characters in Smash that are confirmed dead in any way? (Like Marth and Ike in Awakening)

Sonic was totally dead for a couple of minutes in the BEST Sonic game, before being brought back to life when a human girl macked on him.

I could be wrong, by I think original Mega Man is considered to be dead in all the followup series (X, Legends and so on).

Not in Smash quite yet, but Ridley died for good in Super Metroid. There are only two Metroids after Super in the timeline. The Ridley in Other M is a clone, and Neo Ridley in Fusion is really just an X Parasite pretending to be Ridley.

Any given Link and Zelda are most likely dead during the events of any given game (Ocarina and Twilight Link aren't running around during Breath of the Wild).

Isn't Mother 3 set 100 years after EarthBound? It's possible, by I wouldn't bet on Ness being alive then.

 

[Pazzo.]

I hope Sakurai gives us a Yoshi's Flipping Island stage like Wooly World had a stage before launch.

 

[New_Dumal]

I think that makes sense. I believe Castlevania is very popular in Latin America. The Simon4Smash Facebook group has a lot of Hispanic/Latino fans from Brazil (#1), Mexico (#2), and other Latin American countries.


Yes. I need this. I want a new Animal Crossing game for the Switch. Bigger and better than New Leaf and Pocket Camp combined.

I'm from Brazil and I don't see a special hype into Simon. Some friends around want him, but not nothing unusual.
Snake is really wanted.


E3 is finally near the corner.
45 minutes of presentation and nothing leaked yet.
Now that we're so close... I STILL WANT LEAKS. I'll watch hyped even if I learn beforehand that no wanted characters will appear.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

Ok so i’m trying to keep my expectations in check (already lost out on a house my girlfriend and I were hoping to buy) but the thought of Snake coming back is just awesome.

Here’s my question though. If the game is retaining all of the Wii U roster (unless of course it pulls a Gematsu and gives outdated information or something) do they reveal that information at E3? At a later date?

I’ll be honest. I love Smash and would say it’s my favorite game series. But if it turns out that the whole Wii U roster is only being expanded upon, i’ll probably trade in either one of Wii U or 3DS for that extra money down.

Keep an eye out for Friday too. If that’s when the E3 crates will show up, there’s a chance this whole thing gets blown wide open.