Resolved that misconception before your post, but thank you for further clarification. AEM still raises points on playable Ridley, however. Ridley was teased, but not shown. If we didn't disconfirm him months ago for being teased as a Pyrosphere hazard, what difference does now make? We need a solid view of Ridley, not shadows and hints that lack even mention of his name. Moving onto the other issue.
What difference does now make, you ask?
We've previously only received vague word on
an appearance in general. You know what we have now? Sakurai teasing Ridley
in direct context of being a stage boss like Yellow Devil.
If it weren't for that conveniently ignored detail,
then you would have a point.
The Miis fall under the exact same clause as Toad then, if Shy Guy isn't your cup of tea. Toads have, in multiple games, been background elements and playable characters within the same title. They are at least partially disconfirmed. Ignoring being a potential avatar system (which should again work against their favor in the context of Smash Bros.), I don't see why Miis aren't disconfirmed in the slightest while Toad is. Again, what's the reasoning here? Because they can be both playable and background characters in Smash Bros.? If they're confirmed as Assist Trophies, does that mean we still can't disconfirm them then? After all, they have been both non-playable and playable in multiple titles.
Do you like, have selective reading and vision to where you completely bypass this statement:
Me said:
(And even then, because of the concept of "Blue Toad", Toad isn't "fully" disconfirmed on the chart)
And not see that there are
two Toads on the chart, only ONE being labeled as disconfirmed?
Pretty much renders your argument null and void.
Simply because Miis are customizable does not make them an untouchable entity. Were Princess Daisy to be seen in a background, we'd disconfirm her in a heartbeat. Kalos Pokemon Trainer? You can change their appearance. Still no issue that we'd disconfirm them too. What then sets Miis on higher ground? A Mii that does not have any distinguishable traits or identities should be seen as Miis in general, period. Were this Nikki or one of the purchasable Mii Street Plaza games' representatives, not disconfirming them would be justified in that they don't represent Miis as a whole like any regular Mii would. This is an average, run-of-the-mill every-man-turned-king Mii, meaning the perfect example of any and all Miis considering no form of playable Mii is anything more distinguishable than that. If you're advocating for us to disconfirm Ridley, who even then has distinguishable variations of himself, then Miis, who have no form of distinguish-ability, should be crossed off as well.
Strawman.
Never did I say anything about customizing.
Aside from that, going by
your own Alfonzo Clause, it wouldn't disconfirm a fighter Mii. Especially since we've seen the very cage that Mii sits in
empty. So,
by Alfonzo Clause, there is possibility that when you play as a Mii, the Mii
does not appear in the cage. Or, using the "R.O.B. Clause", the player's own Mii is never in the cage; the player's Mii is the character while other Miis that the player has in their plaza would appear instead.
AND, there is also key detail using "Toad Clause". Like how generic Toad doesn't disconfirm Blue Toad (only Blue Toad would disconfirm Blue Toad), the fact that in Find Mii, the Mii is "King Mii", the non-King version is still up for grabs.
BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE!
It's not even the player's "King Mii" that sits in the cage:
It's the "Prince Mii", the player's
son. Which breaks Find Mii "canon" since the Dark Lord guards the "King Mii", but whatever.
So really, you have no case. And, you need to make a choice with the way you're arguing. By your own logic for
both Ridley and Miis, either
both are disconfirmed or neither are. Figure out what you're trying to argue.
Why not even mention it then? It's been hinted at for so long, he must be aware of the pretty large desire for the character from the West. Why won't he stop torturing us? It makes no sense unless he feeds on the agony of his fans.
I'll concede that ZSS's design is derived her design from the statue. I completely forgot about that thing.
Either way, I don't see much harm in adding in Super Metroid's Ridley and deconfirming Other M's, but that is up to you Golden.
Or...and bear with me on this one.....he just doesn't seem to think of it as torture? Regardless of knowledge of Western desire, it's not like he notices the huge effin' deal people on message boards make out of anything Ridley related that pops up. And I doubt he would even
care to be frank, since he hates it when people overlook things he says or does and get mad when he doesn't deliver what he "promised" them.
As for the whole SM Ridley vs. OM Ridley, it's still
Ridley. It may be a clone, but that clone is treated as if it were the original reborn.
It would be the same vein as if we saw Medusa as a boss, Assist, hazard, etc., but not fully discount her since it was only
Uprising's clone Medusa that Hades made while the original NES Medusa is still up for grabs.
So following this and adding Lip, is this all I've got to do?
Don't discount Isa. Only Saki had been disconfirmed.
