Smash 4 Speculation Chart [WE UPDATE NOW]

[God Robert's Cousin]

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Sensing some hostility going on here.

We all voted as a group over the course of months. These are the charts we got. If you have a problem with them, go make your own charts in another thread or something. We're not the ones you should be complaining at, otherwise. There's a thread-owner for that. Golden would just love to address your concerns.

 

[andimidna]

It's to make the chart useful. So we can refer to it.

Why not refer too... old charts? I don't understand.

 

[andimidna]

Sensing some hostility going on here.

We all voted as a group over the course of months. These are the charts we got. If you have a problem with them, go make your own charts in another thread or something. We're not the ones you should be complaining at, otherwise. There's a thread-owner for that. Golden would just love to address your concerns.

So this isn't likelihood? It's popularity among a small group of people?
...Ok. That's nice I guess.
Still don't understand Toon Sheik over a real Zelda character, Dark Matter over Magolor and Knuckle Joe, no Tiki or Micaiah, Karate Joe?, various other random reps near the bottom, Giga Bowser with his own slot, Robin with 3 slots, and much more.

 

[AEMehr]

-So you are all mini Sakurais? I'm guessing you didn't have Villager or Wii Fit Trainer either. So you guys would have had only 2 out of 5. That's sad. I got 4/5 on a roster almost 3x smaller.

The Villager was in the original chart. If he was not, Sakurai's face would be hovering over his icon.

The entire point of this topic is to have a list of characters that have a good chance in Smash, everyone voted on who got in and who didn't get in. We even had other times when we asked if the anybody thought some characters should be added / removed. This is not one or two people's personal opinions, this is a compilation of what the forum thinks (or at least everyone who participated).

-You have such a narrow view on character inclusions. I am... disappointed.

So you're saying everyone has a narrow-minded view on character inclusions?

Also, characters that are deconfirmed by the means of being Stage Hazards, Assist Trophies, and whatnot stay so we can see how everything worked out in the end by seeing who we got right and wrong AND who actually did make into the game in some way.

-If you think every character on the giant roster is more likely than Midna, you're narrow-mindedness is showing again. She is either the 2nd or 3rd most requested Zelda newcomer (always after Ghirahim, sometimes after Toon Zelda/Tetra), and is arguably the most unique.

This is your personal opinion. One person will not change whether a character is added or not, if you want Midna in the chart say WHY she has a better chance than other Zelda candidates. Not in comparison to other characters in other franchises. The general consensus was that she what we figured was necessary.

-Toon Sheik must mean Tetra, how could it not? You realize you are saying one popular one-time character is impossible, yet one zero-time character that is only a cloned version of a different one-time character is completely viable and among the most likely based off an assumption pertaining to a deleted file in Brawl. The fact that she would 100% definitely be a clone, should be enough to convince you guys, not happening. Who is pulling for Toon Sheik. The possible Zelda characters include: Link, Zelda, Sheik, Ganondorf, Toon Link, Impa, Ghirahim, Midna, Ganon, Yuga, Ravio, Hilda, Groose, Happy Mask Salesman, Zant, Fi, Toon Ganondorf, Toon Zelda, Tetra, Vaati, Tingle... and I can't currently think of any more. I used to consider Skull Kid, Twinrova, and Phantom Zelda, but they're deconfirmed.

If she was going to be Tetra, it would have said "tetra". Plain and simple.
The character was considered for a previous Smash game, so that is why Toon Sheik is on the chart..

-The assumption Rosalina would be a clone was also extremely narrow-minded. It appears that narrow-minded thoughts are common here.

That does not pertain to this topic. You can send your insults elsewhere.

-Don't blame me either. That was my first post on this thread, so I had no contribution to that silly decision.

I don't make the decisions, you guys did.

I didn't blame you, I just told you to not blame me.

-You guys don't need me here to tell you the concept of Toon Sheik as her own slot is absolutely ridiculous.

If we had one icon for every character possibility there is (so for example Toon Zelda [Alone], Toon Zelda w/Tetra, Toon Zelda w/Toon Sheik, Tetra alone, etc.) we had so many icons it's not worth it.

Do you see how Zelda and Sheik have separate icons? And the Pokémon Trainer and his Pokémon have separate ones too? Samus and Zero Suit Samus have separate icons too right? Nobody is saying Toon Sheik will get in on her own, she just has her own icon because she could be a part of Toon Zelda.

-That seems to be very trivial on a character possibilities list.

...? Do you mean the alternate versions of characters?
Trivial? A female Villager would be a playable character wouldn't it? If we were to add more characters, the amount of character slots would grow. Nobody is replacing anyone, if a character isn't on there that character was not considered fit. That's all.

-I'm simply suggesting you put those slots to better use, and I'm also suggesting Tiki, if nobody else has. And I'm suggesting adding Midna back, guys, I know she's not that popular on this one site (getting 3rd for Zelda newcomers on ShortieCanBrawl's poll), but she gets 2nd everywhere else (or so I've seen, this includes Miiverse, Youtube, GameFaqs, and Facebook)

Slots are put to good use, as I said before if a character was voted to be added on, they would be added on. It's really that simple.

-Tiki has been playable more than Marth, Ike, Anna, Chrom, Lucina, etc. And how could a manakete not be unique?

Unique =/= Suggested.
Nobody brought up Tiki, which is why she was never considered for the chart.

Look, if this is just supposed to be collective opinions, I'm going to add mine to the mix. I'll make my own list per series.

That's fine, all power to you. But characters will only be added to the main charts if more people agree with you than disagree with you.

 

[Deleted member]

Golden would just love to address your concerns.

Really hoping that's sarcasm....

Since I'd honestly rather not, especially because the main points had already been addressed, and this whole thing is coming off as a rant about someone's personal tastes not being met.

 

[God Robert's Cousin]

Really hoping that's sarcasm....

Since I'd honestly rather not, especially because the main points had already been addressed, and this whole thing is coming off as a rant about someone's personal tastes not being met.

(It is.)

 

[Guybrush20X6]

We got a lot of Stage and Item information this month but no characters, at least non that were on our lists. Still, a good month overall, like one where you didn't get a pizza but never had to resort to un-seasoned ramen.

 

[FalKoopa]

We got a lot of Stage and Item information this month but no characters, at least non that were on our lists. Still, a good month overall, like one where you didn't get a pizza but never had to resort to un-seasoned ramen.

I suppose Sakurai felt that AEM needed a well-deserved break.

 

[AEMehr]

I suppose Sakurai felt that AEM needed a well-deserved break.

praise to be sakurai

 

[Deleted member]

The month is still not over yet; we got Monday.

Though it probably won't be anything worthwhile.

 

[Autumn ♫]

May I ask why Vaati isn't in the Legend of Zelda series?

 

[AEMehr]

May I ask why Vaati isn't in the Legend of Zelda series?

When we were redoing all of the charts, Vaati was voted out.

 

[Autumn ♫]

When we were redoing all of the charts, Vaati was voted out.

Why, exactly? Especially when Toon Sheik and Ghirahim are still in there.

 

[AEMehr]

Why, exactly? Especially when Toon Sheik and Ghirahim are still in there.

Iunno.
Toon Sheik was untouchable because she was part of the Forbidden 7.
Ghirahim wasn't voted off for whatever reason.

 

[HylianHeroBigBoss]

Well one good thing that came from that chrom april fools joke is that we now have a better looking 3d render of him to use for this and possibly the roster maker.

Spoiler

 

[Deleted member]

Moar questioning of Vaati, it seems.
Had to put a notice on the front post.

.....Unless everyone wants to go through another Chart Update.....

 

[Autumn ♫]

Moar questioning of Vaati, it seems.
Had to put a notice on the front post.

.....Unless everyone wants to go through another Chart Update.....

Well, if there was alot of questioning of no-Vaati, than those people should be my apprentices. To whoever also defended him, you have my highest regard.

Why should we have votes though? If a certain character is asked about multiple times, than shouldn't they just be on the roster? Unless it's someone being stupid like Naruto or Goku.

 

[HylianHeroBigBoss]

Moar questioning of Vaati, it seems.
Had to put a notice on the front post.

.....Unless everyone wants to go through another Chart Update.....

I dont think you should waste the time honestly. As much as ive wanted vaati in the past hes a non entity in zelda right now. And i just dont think they would pluck him as our newcomer, it would be like throwing in wart from mario 2. While i admit theres still a chance he could get in absolutely, it just doesnt seem like anything more than hoping, all he really has going for him at the moment is the fact hes appeared as the villain more than once (most times were all the 4 swords games which almost felt like remakes of the same game).

Id say its fine, until we have reason to believe hes as possible as the others i dont think the change is needed.

 

[Autumn ♫]

I dont think you should waste the time honestly. As much as ive wanted vaati in the past hes a non entity in zelda right now. And i just dont think they would pluck him as our newcomer, it would be like throwing in wart from mario 2. While i admit theres still a chance he could get in absolutely, it just doesnt seem like anything more than hoping, all he really has going for him at the moment is the fact hes appeared as the villain more than once (most times were all the 4 swords games which almost felt like remakes of the same game).

Id say its fine, until we have reason to believe hes as possible as the others i dont think the change is needed.

How is Vaati a non-entity and like throwing Wart into Smash? I'd say it's more like adding Junior if Rosalina wasn't announced.

 

[Deleted member]

Why should we have votes though? If a certain character is asked about multiple times, than shouldn't they just be on the roster? Unless it's someone being stupid like Naruto or Goku.

It doesn't work like that.
We had a vote for every series chart starting from late July of last year in regards to additions and removals.
When Zelda's time came, Vaati was voted off along with others (Groose, Midna, Skull Kid, and Demise).

Months later, people have been coming in complaining about Vaati not being on the chart (or Midna in some cases), not getting that the time to defend the choice was back in August (though some cases, I am understanding of since those people joined the forums much more recently to where they couldn't have voted).

Also not getting that late additions at this point in time have to be very special exceptions considering how late we are in the speculation scene. One such notable exception was Rosalina, who was voted off, but was voted back in because of Super Mario 3D World, with also the addition of Blue Toad because of the Toon Link argument.

There is no reason to see Vaati as a special exception at this point in time (as much as I would like playing as the flying blowfish).

EDIT: Also, the point of the voting was to help narrow down the charts. To add characters willy-nilly just because a few people ask for it would be counterproductive to that practice.

 

[HylianHeroBigBoss]

How is Vaati a non-entity and like throwing Wart into Smash? I'd say it's more like adding Junior if Rosalina wasn't announced.

Not quite the same, both of them are still revolving characters in that series. I dont want to say its about relevance because it would never be the only sole reason, but there are some characters that are a constant in those series, and some that arent.

 

[Autumn ♫]

Not quite the same, both of them are still revolving characters in that series. I dont want to say its about relevance because it would never be the only sole reason, but there are some characters that are a constant in those series, and some that arent.

There are only a few Zelda characters that I can think of being reoccuring (not counting Toon versions characters)
Link
Zelda
Ganondorf
Impa
Tingle
Vaati
So, Vaati would be considered one of the few reoccuring, important characters we don't have yet.

 

[Pacack]

There are only a few Zelda characters that I can think of being reoccuring (not counting Toon versions characters)
Link
Zelda
Ganondorf
Impa
Tingle
Vaati
So, Vaati would be considered one of the few reoccuring, important characters we don't have yet.

Psst! If Vaati's to be included, Ganon should be too.

 

[Autumn ♫]

Psst! If Vaati's to be included, Ganon should be too.

I counted Ganon as Ganondorf, they're essentially the same character.

 

[Pacack]

I counted Ganon as Ganondorf, they're essentially the same character.

Perfectly understandable viewpoint. I respectfully disagree, though.

 

[andimidna]

I counted Ganon as Ganondorf, they're essentially the same character.

Well, there's only one Ganon who is also Ganondorf.
Ganondorf has been in 3 games.
Ganon has been in 10 games.

If you're counting characters who have been in 3 games, you may also want to add Skull Kid and Twinrova, unless your talking about characters that are still options.
Seems weird to call 3 recurring, and 2 not recurring, but alright. The only other character not deconfirmed that could fit that spot would be Ganon and a bunch of lesser known characters.

It gets confusing with the Zelda series, some games have descendents or reincarnations, some continue the story of the same character or have them revived.
Or even how the name Fado is recurring in the series, but they are all very different characters, only common characteristic would be association with the forest.

But... when it comes to the Zelda series, there isn't really one obvious pick.
And there certainly is not a character everybody can agree on.
That's why I see it as reasonable to have a long list of potential character for series like this and Fire Emblem.


I also wouldn't say Vaati should be there because Ghirahim is. Ghirahim is the most requested and recent major character... I've lately started to think he's the most likely.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Is it just me or does this thread get a load of miffed Zelda fans?

 

[Deleted member]

Is it just me or does this thread get a load of miffed Zelda fans?

Imagine how "miffed" people would be if Ghirahim or Impa were taken off.

 

[AEMehr]

Is it just me or does this thread get a load of miffed Zelda fans?

This is probably because of the fact that the Zelda fanbase is basically Nintendo's version of the Sonic fanbase.

 

[Deleted member]

This is probably because of the fact that the Zelda fanbase is basically Nintendo's version of the Sonic fanbase.

Coulda sworn that was Star Fox....

*Looks at avatar*

Uh-oh!

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Looks like someone thought you had things too good AEM.

We got a butt load of character to change.

 

[AEMehr]

crying forever

 

[BluePikmin11]

Could someone make a list of deconfirmed characters.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Could someone make a list of deconfirmed characters.

My friend made a list of everything new in the trailer so you can pick it out of that

Spoiler

3DS version will be released Summer 2014.
WiiU version will be released Winter 2014.
3DS will run at 60 FPS even in 3D.
AT's and Pokemon will run at 30 FPS.
Samurai Goroh returns as AT.
Melee's Jungle Japes will be a 3DS stage.
3DS and WiU will have the same roster.
Almost all stages will be console exclusive.
Battlefield will be on both versions.
Each 3DS stage will have 2 songs on it.
WiiU has the return of My Music with large song libraries for each stage.
Balloon Fight will be a 3DS stage, you can go off one side and reappear on the other.
HARD ROCK REMIX OF BALLAD OF THE GODDESS CONFIRMED.
Brawl's Halberd will return as a WiiU stage.
The Yellow Devil interrupts the fight and must be hit in the eye to be defeated. When defeated the Yellow Devil explodes causing large damage. Whoever gets the last hit is not affected by the explosion.
Ridley's shadow appears when discussing other boss characters???
Tiki from Fire Emblem is a Trophy.
Online mode will have the option for playing with friends or strangers.
Online mode will have two modes, For Fun and For Glory. For Fun will be with random stages and items on and will only record wins. For Glory will be with Final Destination only and no items and wins AND losses are recorded.
Playing with friends allows customizable rules.
Every stage will get a Final Destination version that is flat with no other platforms and lacks stage hazards/gimmicks.
Nintendo is looking on ways to prevent people from starting and not playing, relentless target of an individual, repeated self-destructs, frequent drop-outs (ragequit, technical, or otherwise), cheating, and baseless reporting of other players.
Ranking system for solo play.
No multiplayer rankings, but skill-based matchmaking will be implemented.
Beam Sword returns as item.
Smart Bomb returns as item.
Motion Sensor Bomb returns as item.
POW Block is a new item that seems to effect enemies on the ground when thrown.
Fire Bar from Mario is a new item that seems to be used like a sword and gets smaller and less damaging with each hit.
Back Shield from Kid Icarus is a new item that prevents attacks from the back from hitting.
Bombchu from The Legend of Zelda is a new item that seems to crawl along walls and ceilings and explode on contact.
Fairy Bottle seems to heal damage instantly.
The Ore Club seems to greatly slow down the user.
Hocotate Bomb seems to damage opponents on the way up in addition to exploding.
The Rocket Belt from Pilotwings is a new item that seems to give its user an extended jump similar to R.O.B.'s up special.
Fi is a Trophy.
Devil returns as an Assist Trophy.
Knuckle Joe returns as an Assist Trophy.
Saki Amamiya returns as an Assist Trophy.
Lyn returns as an Assist Trophy.
Dr. Wright returns as an Assist Trophy.
Skull Kid's AT seems to invert the camera of the stage.
Midna is a new Assist Trophy that grabs and throws nearby opponents.
Ashley's Assist Trophy seems to cause an area of random status affects, characters seemed to grow and shrink.
Dark Samus is a new Assist Trophy that shoots rapid fire shots and summons tendrils from the ground.
Chain Chomp is a new Assist Trophy that attacks nearby opponents.
Isabelle nullifies attacks and throws healing food.
Elec Man is a new Assist Trophy.
Color TV-Game 15, otherwise known as Pong is a new Assist Trophy that damages opponents with the ball in the middle.
Master Ball is a new item that summons specifically legendary or rare pokemon.
Arceus is a new pokemon that meteor smashes mid-air opponents.
Meowth returns as a pokemon.
Electrode returns as a pokemon.
Eevee is a new pokemon that tackles opponents.
Staryu returns as a pokemon.
Metagross returns as a pokemon.
Fennekin is a new pokemon that shoots pillars of fire.
Moeloetta is a new pokemon that shoots musical balls that bounce off the walls of a stage.
Gogoat is a new pokemon that can be ridden as it runs.
Entei returns as a pokemon.
Deoxys returns as a pokemon.
Palkia is a new pokemon that flips the stage upside down.
Kyurem is a new pokemon that seems to freeze nearby opponents.
Victini is a new pokemon.
Keldeo is a new pokemon that uses its horn as a sword.
Xerneas is a new pokemon.
Samus still uses the Zero Laser as a Final Smash, but doesn't transform into ZSS afterwards.
All characters that used to change form mid-match no longer do so.
ZSS will not be returning in the new Smash Bros.
PSYCHE! Zero Suit Samus Zeroes In!
ZSS is stronger and uses jet boots to boost her kicks.
Her upB seems to be a new kick that sends her upward.
Zelda's new downB is Phantom Slash. It works as a long ranged attacks as well as a block, but can be reflected.
Sheik Appears on the Scene!
Shiek's sideB has been changed to Burst Grenade, an explosion that starts a distance away from them.
Shiek's downB has been changed to Bouncing Fish, where Shiek jumps forward and knocks the opponent downward.
Kirby's hammer can be charged, if charged for too long it starts to damage Kirby.
Kirby's Final Smash is now the Ultra Sword, similar to Ike's.
Dedede will only throw Gordo's as opposed to Waddle Dee's/Doo's
Lucario's aura affect is much more enhanced.
Lucario can Mega Evolve to an unknown capacity, it doesn't seem to be a Final Smash.
Olimar is now limited to 3 Pikmin as opposed to 6.
Olimar now plucks Pikmin in the specific order, Red, Blue, Yellow, White, Purple.
Olimar's new recovery is the Winged Pikmin, does less recovery when he has more Pikmin.
Pit can no longer glide.
Pit is much more physically stronger.
The Power of Flight is a directional special that replaces his old upB and shoots Pit in a straight line.
Pit's Final Smash is now the Three Sacred Treasures, where he can bombard the stage with projectiles, seemingly manually.
Yoshie Rolls Into Battle!
Yoshi stands more upright now.
Pseudo-Palutena is a Trophy.
Rosalina can send Luma off with Luma Shot and recall them later.
Luma on its own will wander around the stage while Rosalina controls its attack.
Rosalina's sideB is Star Bits, which can be done when Luma is seperated.
Rosalina's upB is Launch Star.
Rosalina's downB is Gravitational Pull, which draws in items and projectiles.
Rosalina's Final Smash is the Power Star, which shoots projectiles about the stage from the central point of the large star above Rosalina.
The Sandbag returns as an item.
Mac's attack power is incredibly weak in the air.
Mac's neutralB is the Straight Lunge, which can be charged for more distance and power and turns into the KO Uppercut when the KO meter is full.
Connecting attacks and getting hit increases the power meter.
Mac's sideB is the Jolt Haymaker, which dodges attacks and lets mac get in.
Mac's upB is the Rising Uppercut, which is powerful but has weak recovery.
Mac's downB is the Slip Counter, a counter/feint.
Little Mac's Final Smash is Giga Mac, where he seems to keep the same moveset.
Mac's alternate costume is Wireframe Mac, from the original Punch-Out!! arcade game.
Villager's neutralB is Pocket.
Villager's sideB is Lloid Rocket, on the ground its a projectile, in the air Villager rides it and its a recovery move.
Villager's upB is Balloon Trip.
Villager's downB is Timber, seemingly a four stage attack. On the first button press Villager plants a sapling. On the second he waters it and it grows into a tree. On the third he chops it once. On the fourth he chops it down. The tree can bounce when it falls too.
Villager's Final Smash is Dream Home, where Tom Nook and his sons build a house on top of the opponent, then it blows up.
Mega Man's up aerial is Air Shooter, which is a rising multi-hit projectile.
Mega Man can throw the Metal Blades behind him.
Mega Man's Final Smash brings in the other iterations of Mega Man including X, Volnutt, and others. The full effects are as of yet unknown.
WFT's downB is Deep Breathing, an attack with a long startup that gives her/him a power boost.
WFT's neutralB is Sun Salutation, a chargeable projectile that can be stored and used later.
The two attacks can be used as a combo.
Male WFT is alternate costume for WFT, there are no differences between the two.
Characters have customizable versions of different moves that can only be used offline and with friends.
The King Kihunter is a Trophy.
Smash Run is a new game mode on the 3DS version only, it functions like City Trial from Kirby Air Ride where players collect powerups and fight an assortment of Nintendo enemies in a large dungeon before fighting each other in special challenge fights like Free-For-All, Reflect Smash, Flower Smash, and moving stages, there are also events.
Different enemies appear randomly every time you play.
Charizard Fires It Up!
Greninja Makes a Splash!
Greninja seems to have a vanish move.
Many of Greninja's attacks seem to have extended hitboxes of water.
Greninja seems to have Water Shuriken and Water katana attacks.
Greninja seems to have a Substitute counter.
Charizard seems to have a Fox-like tackling move where it coats itself in fire.
Charizard can Mega Evolve into Mega Charizard X.
Greninja's Final Smash seems to look like Strider's Ragnorok from MvC.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Could you dumb it down to characters please.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Here's the abrigded list. Wemay have to double chack the Greninja trailer for Pokemon.

Spoiler

Samurai Goroh returns as AT.
The Yellow Devil interrupts the fight and must be hit in the eye to be defeated. When defeated the Yellow Devil explodes causing large damage.
Ridley's shadow appears when discussing other boss characters???
Tiki from Fire Emblem is a Trophy.
Beam Sword returns as item.
Smart Bomb returns as item.
Motion Sensor Bomb returns as item.
POW Block is a new item that seems to effect enemies on the ground when thrown.
Fire Bar from Mario is a new item that seems to be used like a sword and gets smaller and less damaging with each hit.
Back Shield from Kid Icarus is a new item that prevents attacks from the back from hitting.
Bombchu from The Legend of Zelda is a new item that seems to crawl along walls and ceilings and explode on contact.
Fairy Bottle seems to heal damage instantly.
The Ore Club seems to greatly slow down the user.
Hocotate Bomb seems to damage opponents on the way up in addition to exploding.
The Rocket Belt from Pilotwings is a new item that seems to give its user an extended jump similar to R.O.B.'s up special.
Fi is a Trophy.
Devil returns as an Assist Trophy.
Knuckle Joe returns as an Assist Trophy.
Saki Amamiya returns as an Assist Trophy.
Lyn returns as an Assist Trophy.
Dr. Wright returns as an Assist Trophy.
Skull Kid's AT seems to invert the camera of the stage.
Midna is a new Assist Trophy that grabs and throws nearby opponents.
Ashley's Assist Trophy seems to cause an area of random status affects, characters seemed to grow and shrink.
Dark Samus is a new Assist Trophy that shoots rapid fire shots and summons tendrils from the ground.
Chain Chomp is a new Assist Trophy that attacks nearby opponents.
Isabelle nullifies attacks and throws healing food.
Elec Man is a new Assist Trophy.
Color TV-Game 15, otherwise known as Pong is a new Assist Trophy that damages opponents with the ball in the middle.
Master Ball is a new item that summons specifically legendary or rare pokemon.
Arceus is a new pokemon that meteor smashes mid-air opponents.
Meowth returns as a pokemon.
Electrode returns as a pokemon.
Eevee is a new pokemon that tackles opponents.
Staryu returns as a pokemon.
Metagross returns as a pokemon.
Fennekin is a new pokemon that shoots pillars of fire.
Moeloetta is a new pokemon that shoots musical balls that bounce off the walls of a stage.
Gogoat is a new pokemon that can be ridden as it runs.
Entei returns as a pokemon.
Deoxys returns as a pokemon.
Palkia is a new pokemon that flips the stage upside down.
Kyurem is a new pokemon that seems to freeze nearby opponents.
Victini is a new pokemon.
Keldeo is a new pokemon that uses its horn as a sword.
Xerneas is a new pokemon.
Zelda's new downB is Phantom Slash. It works as a long ranged attacks as well as a block, but can be reflected.
Dedede will only throw Gordo's as opposed to Waddle Dee's/Doo's
Lucario can Mega Evolve to an unknown capacity, it doesn't seem to be a Final Smash.
Olimar's new recovery is the Winged Pikmin, does less recovery when he has more Pikmin.
Pit's Final Smash is now the Three Sacred Treasures, where he can bombard the stage with projectiles, seemingly manually.
Pseudo-Palutena is a Trophy.
The Sandbag returns as an item.
Mac's alternate costume is Wireframe Mac, from the original Punch-Out!! arcade game.
Villager's Final Smash is Dream Home, where Tom Nook and his sons (nephews, you ninny) build a house on top of the opponent, then it blows up.
Mega Man's Final Smash brings in the other iterations of Mega Man including X, Volnutt, and others. The full effects are as of yet unknown.
Male WFT is alternate costume for WFT, there are no differences between the two.
Characters have customizable versions of different moves that can only be used offline and with friends.
The King Kihunter is a Trophy.
Different enemies appear randomly every time you play.

 

[SmasherMaster]

Isa Jo is deconfirmed as well. If Isa was in, there would be a Sin and Punishment icon and not a smash icon when Saki was announced to still be an Assist Trophy.

 

[Autumn ♫]

Here's the abrigded list. Wemay have to double chack the Greninja trailer for Pokemon.

I know Darkrai is now a Pokeball Pokemon, so you can put that on the list.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Isa Jo is deconfirmed as well. If Isa was in, there would be a Sin and Punishment icon and not a smash icon when Saki was announced to still be an Assist Trophy.

That may be smoke and mirrors, remember the boxing ring.

 

[SmasherMaster]

That may be smoke and mirrors, remember the boxing ring.

No because Waluigi had the Wario symbol, as did Ashley. If that was similiar, they would have either Smash logos or Mario logos.