Smash 4 Speculation Chart [WE UPDATE NOW]

[Deleted member]

Another question @GoldenYuiitusin and @ AEMehr :

Pre-Smash 64 Series

What does Sami have that distinguishes her enough to go with Andy as potentials Advance Wars 1 & 2 reps ?

 

[Cheezey Bites]

She's seen as more of a fighter, which is silly given Villager and all, but people be crazy. Moreover some people have the idea of her stealing Snake's move set if he's cut.

 

[Louie G.]

Sami is one of the most popular Advance Wars characters, from what I've seen.

 

[Ura]

I wouldn't mind seeing an AW rep in SSB4. AW is a pretty underrated series IMO.

Though I would probably go with Max to represent the series.

 

[Deleted member]

Another question @GoldenYuiitusin and @ AEMehr :

What does Sami have that distinguishes her enough to go with Andy as potentials Advance Wars 1 & 2 reps ?

Popularity, easier to make as a fighter given that she packs heat while Andy's a wrench monkey, and is just as much a main protagonist as Andy is (so is Max, but Max is not on the same level of notability as Andy and Sami).

 

[Guybrush20X6]

I was about to say today's picture disconfirms MB but then I remembered we had her removed.

 

[Deleted member]

I was about to say today's picture disconfirms MB but then I remembered we had her removed.

Not only that, but seeing as MB is not actually Mother Brain, it wouldn't have affected her anyway.

 

[Maxoxpower]

There is my wish list but also what i think it can be possible to add



What do you think guys?
Maybe the true roster is without dillon, krystal and waluigi/bowser jr


Sorry for my bad english

 

[Guybrush20X6]

There is my wish list but also what i think it can be possible to add



What do you think guys?
Maybe the true roster is without dillon, krystal and waluigi/bowser jr


Sorry for my bad english

Wrong place for this but you pretty much all the popular choices there.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Wrong place to post buddy.

 

[Maxoxpower]

oops sorry..

 

[Deleted member]

Looks like both Little Mac and Giga Mac need to be updated to confirmed status.

I like how I was right to believe Giga Mac would be the FS. >:3

 

[God Robert's Cousin]

Looks like both Little Mac and Giga Mac need to be updated to confirmed status.

I like how I was right to believe Giga Mac would be the FS. >:3

To be fair, what else would it have been? Giga Mac just makes so much sense.

 

[josh bones]

To be fair, what else would it have been? Giga Mac just makes so much sense.

I could've seen star uppercut being it if they didn't make it neutral b

 

[Deleted member]

To be fair, what else would it have been? Giga Mac just makes so much sense.

People were saying it should be the Triple Star Punch.

Just cause they didn't want to see Giga Mac. I laugh at them now.

 

[Pazzo.]

I know this may be a bit annoying, as it takes away from the Little Mac talk, but what are people's opinions on Dillon here?

 

[Guybrush20X6]

45% likelihood in my opinion. I think/fear he is more likely to be an assist trophy. We'll see if he's crossed off the list anytime soon.

 

[Pazzo.]

45% likelihood in my opinion. I think/fear he is more likely to be an assist trophy. We'll see if he's crossed off the list anytime soon.

Alright, that's about what I was thinking. Overall, all he has going for him is that he's in a new IP, and Sakurai said he likes new IPs...

 

[fogbadge]

id say if there was to be ab e-shop character mallo would of been most likely cause as far as i can tell pullbox/pushmo has been nintendo's most successful e-shop game

 

[Deleted member]

Discussion for this doesn't belong here.
Go to the Character Discussion Thread if you want to talk about characters specifically as opposed to the chart.

 

[fogbadge]

apologies

i feel i should have known better

 

[The Light Music Club]

I was wondering why Lyn and Anna are on the speculation chart but Micaiah isn't. Is there a specific reason for this?

 

[BluePikmin11]

I was wondering why Lyn and Anna are on the speculation chart but Micaiah isn't. Is there a specific reason for this?

Golden has dealt with everything regarding FE newcomers, and he decided that Mic shouldn't be on the chart.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Golden has dealt with everything regarding FE newcomers, and he decided that Mic shouldn't be on the chart.

Well we put it to the vote too. Fought tooth and nail for Lyn.

 

[SuperBrawler]

What about Tiki?

 

[FalKoopa]

I was wondering why Lyn and Anna are on the speculation chart but Micaiah isn't. Is there a specific reason for this?

When deciding on the charts, GoldenYuiitusin put them up for voting, and Lyn and Anna survived, while Micaiah didn't.

 

[Chandeelure]

Ashley isn't deconfirmed in the OP.

And why not Magolor?
He has an important role in Kirby's Return to Dreamland, a minigame in Kirby's Dream Collection and two cameos in Triple Deluxe, I think he has chances...and Dark Matter? seriously?
But well, I'm late XD

 

[Deleted member]

Ashley isn't deconfirmed in the OP.

And why not Magolor?
He has an important role in Kirby's Return to Dreamland, a minigame in Kirby's Dream Collection and two cameos in Triple Deluxe, I think he has chances...and Dark Matter? seriously?
But well, I'm late XD

-When a character is confirmed to be an Assist, they will be faded out in green.

Granted, I should probably change that to "given a green background", as the ATs aren't faded out persay.

And like everyone above asking about Fire Emblem characters, we had a poll for every series. Magolor was voted off.

 

[AEMehr]

Aha! I guessed a second reveal correctly! Go me!

Updates...
DONKEY KONG COUNTRY

Changes since last version:
• Diddy Kong has been confirmed be playable and stretchy! Probably disconfirms Lanky Kong, despite him not being on the chart.
PRE-SMASH 64 FRANCHISES

Changes since last version:
• Little Mac has been confirmed to be a playable character, with Giga Mac as his Final Smash (Just as Golden and pretty much everybody that knew about Giga Mac predicted).

As per usual these days, God Robert's Cousin's Bingo Board list was also updated as well.

Granted, I should probably change that to "given a green background", as the ATs aren't faded out persay.

That might actually be a better idea, then it would be a bit more obvious.

 

[Deleted member]

Chart updated.

 

[Aurora Jenny]

Time to update the Mario set. Sorry about that, Golden. I gotta bad feeling about Krystal and a couple of others on my end as well. =/

 

[AEMehr]

More updates!

General
•Assist Trophies now fade into Green! Makes them a lot more obvious to see now.

Super Mario Bros.

• Waluigi has been confirmed as an assist trophy...

WarioWare / Land

• Ashley's pic has been updated to correlate with the new style.

Pre-Brawl Franchises

• Starfy's and Nintendog's pic have been updated to correlate with the new style.

YOUR CAST

• Same as Above!

SEE YE NEXT WEEK!

 

[Deleted member]

Front post updated.

 

[andimidna]

More updates!

General
•Assist Trophies now fade into Green! Makes them a lot more obvious to see now.

Super Mario Bros.

• Waluigi has been confirmed as an assist trophy...

WarioWare / Land

• Ashley's pic has been updated to correlate with the new style.

Pre-Brawl Franchises

• Starfy's and Nintendog's pic have been updated to correlate with the new style.

YOUR CAST

• Same as Above!

SEE YE NEXT WEEK!

You put a Zelda character that doesn't even exist over Midna ;_;
That'd be like adding Dry Bowser Jr. or Paper Nabbit over Rosalina.
You even put Robin thrice instead of Tiki ;_;
Y U DO DIS ARIAND?

 

[God Robert's Cousin]

You put a Zelda character that doesn't even exist over Midna ;_;
That'd be like adding Dry Bowser Jr. or Paper Nabbit over Rosalina.
You even put Robin thrice instead of Tiki ;_;
Y U DO DIS ARIAND?

Because we agreed that Midna won't be getting in. Because she won't!

And there are files in Brawl that indicate "Toon Zelda" and "Toon Sheik" was scrapped at some point. So Toon Sheik's not made up in Sakurai's eyes, at least.

And we actually didn't have Rosalina in the roster before she was confirmed. The general consensus was that she didn't have much to differentiate herself from Peach. At least, you know, before we saw her reveal.

 

[AEMehr]

You put a Zelda character that doesn't even exist over Midna ;_;
That'd be like adding Dry Bowser Jr. or Paper Nabbit over Rosalina.
You even put Robin thrice instead of Tiki ;_;
Y U DO DIS ARIAND?

I don't make the decisions, you guys did.
• Midna was on the original list, but was voted off.
• Toon Sheik was in Brawl's data and is one of the "Forbidden 7".
• We put multiple versions of characters that could appear. It's why we have another Villager and two Fossil Fighters among other things.
• Nobody suggest Tiki.

 

[andimidna]

Because we agreed that Midna won't be getting in. Because she won't!

And there are files in Brawl that indicate "Toon Zelda" and "Toon Sheik" was scrapped at some point. So Toon Sheik's not made up in Sakurai's eyes, at least.

And we actually didn't have Rosalina in the roster before she was confirmed. The general consensus was that she didn't have much to differentiate herself from Peach. At least, you know, before we saw her reveal.

-So you are all mini Sakurais? I'm guessing you didn't have Villager or Wii Fit Trainer either. So you guys would have had only 2 out of 5. That's sad. I got 4/5 on a roster almost 3x smaller.
-You have such a narrow view on character inclusions. I am... disappointed.
-If you think every character on the giant roster is more likely than Midna, you're narrow-mindedness is showing again. She is either the 2nd or 3rd most requested Zelda newcomer (always after Ghirahim, sometimes after Toon Zelda/Tetra), and is arguably the most unique.
-Toon Sheik must mean Tetra, how could it not? You realize you are saying one popular one-time character is impossible, yet one zero-time character that is only a cloned version of a different one-time character is completely viable and among the most likely based off an assumption pertaining to a deleted file in Brawl. The fact that she would 100% definitely be a clone, should be enough to convince you guys, not happening. Who is pulling for Toon Sheik. The possible Zelda characters include: Link, Zelda, Sheik, Ganondorf, Toon Link, Impa, Ghirahim, Midna, Ganon, Yuga, Ravio, Hilda, Groose, Happy Mask Salesman, Zant, Fi, Toon Ganondorf, Toon Zelda, Tetra, Vaati, Tingle... and I can't currently think of any more. I used to consider Skull Kid, Twinrova, and Phantom Zelda, but they're deconfirmed.
-The assumption Rosalina would be a clone was also extremely narrow-minded. It appears that narrow-minded thoughts are common here.

I don't make the decisions, you guys did.
• Midna was on the original list, but was voted off.
• Toon Sheik was in Brawl's data and is one of the "Forbidden 7".
• We put multiple versions of characters that could appear. It's why we have another Villager and two Fossil Fighters among other things.
• Nobody suggest Tiki.

-Don't blame me either. That was my first post on this thread, so I had no contribution to that silly decision.
-You guys don't need me here to tell you the concept of Toon Sheik as her own slot is absolutely ridiculous.
-That seems to be very trivial on a character possibilities list.
-I'm simply suggesting you put those slots to better use, and I'm also suggesting Tiki, if nobody else has. And I'm suggesting adding Midna back, guys, I know she's not that popular on this one site (getting 3rd for Zelda newcomers on ShortieCanBrawl's poll), but she gets 2nd everywhere else (or so I've seen, this includes Miiverse, Youtube, GameFaqs, and Facebook)
-Tiki has been playable more than Marth, Ike, Anna, Chrom, Lucina, etc. And how could a manakete not be unique?
@Hotfeet444 knows the potential of these 2 as well, don't look down on me like I'm alone.
Look, if this is just supposed to be collective opinions, I'm going to add mine to the mix. I'll make my own list per series.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

-So you are all mini Sakurais? I'm guessing you didn't have Villager or Wii Fit Trainer either. So you guys would have had only 2 out of 5. That's sad. I got 4/5 on a roster almost 3x smaller.
-You have such a narrow view on character inclusions. I am... disappointed.
-If you think every character on the giant roster is more likely than Midna, you're narrow-mindedness is showing again. She is either the 2nd or 3rd most requested Zelda newcomer (always after Ghirahim, sometimes after Toon Zelda/Tetra), and is arguably the most unique.
-Toon Sheik must mean Tetra, how could it not? You realize you are saying one popular one-time character is impossible, yet one zero-time character that is only a cloned version of a different one-time character is completely viable and among the most likely based off an assumption pertaining to a deleted file in Brawl. The fact that she would 100% definitely be a clone, should be enough to convince you guys, not happening. Who is pulling for Toon Sheik. The possible Zelda characters include: Link, Zelda, Sheik, Ganondorf, Toon Link, Impa, Ghirahim, Midna, Ganon, Yuga, Ravio, Hilda, Groose, Happy Mask Salesman, Zant, Fi, Toon Ganondorf, Toon Zelda, Tetra, Vaati, Tingle... and I can't currently think of any more. I used to consider Skull Kid, Twinrova, and Phantom Zelda, but they're deconfirmed.
-The assumption Rosalina would be a clone was also extremely narrow-minded. It appears that narrow-minded thoughts are common here.


Don't blame me either. That was my first post on this thread, so I had no contribution to that silly decision.
You guys don't need me here to tell you the concept of Toon Sheik as her own slot is absolutely ridiculous.
That seems to be very trivial on a character possibilities list.
I'm simply suggesting you put those slots to better use, and I'm also suggesting Tiki, if nobody else has. And I'm suggesting adding Midna back, guys, I know she's not that popular on this one site (getting 3rd for Zelda newcomers on ShortieCanBrawl's poll), but she gets 2nd everywhere else (or so I've seen, this includes Miiverse, Youtube, GameFaqs, and Facebook)
Tiki has been playable more than Marth, Ike, Anna, Chrom, Lucina, etc. And how could a manakete not be unique.
@Hotfeet444 knows the potential of these 2 as well, don't look down on me like I'm alone.
Look, if this is just supposed to be collective opinions, I'm going to add mine to the mix. I'll make my own list per series.

If you want to make your own list, take it to the roster prediction display thread.

You seem unduly mad. We had larger lists but we decided they were to unwieldy and just looked silly so we cut them down to the ones we all agreed (within a margin) would be most likely.

 

[andimidna]

If you want to make your own list, take it to the roster prediction display thread.

You seem unduly mad. We had larger lists but we decided they were to unwieldy and just looked silly so we cut them down to the ones we all agreed (within a margin) would be most likely.

I see no point in that.
Also, why do deconfirmed characters get to stay? Shouldn't they be swapped out for characters with a chance?

 

[SuperBrawler]

I see no point in that.
Also, why do deconfirmed characters get to stay? Shouldn't they be swapped out for characters with a chance?

It's to make the chart useful. So we can refer to it.