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American JEDI

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Meta Knight was SS Tier because he had (virtually) no bad MUs. It was not that other characters were not as easy to pick up or that they took more effort, it was that they were a waste of time to learn because Meta Knight would outperform them regardless. Either way, his usage and win-rate is the problem, which is why he is going to receive a much needed nerf. That is called balance. You do not scale everyone else to deal with one character, you nerf the one character.
Yet, that's exactly what they're doing. Scaling/buffing every character in one way or another.

Did you play the demo? For the ones that were top tier (Marth for instance), they added a bit of ending lag to some moves. Yet STILL POWERED UP other moves. The agenda this time around isn't nerfing. It's much more on balancing via buffs.
 
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The problem was his "transcending priority," albeit it made him unique, it also helped to ensure that he had no bad MUs. So that is probably going to be the first thing to get nerfed and the reason that many cite him as one of the best characters. His damage and knock-back are mostly fine actually.
If by priority you mean Mach Storm, there are so many ways around that. Drill Rush is virtually non-existent in competitive play. His N-air was quite devastating though... They can probably chop some frames off of it.

At the end of the day, you can work around his priority. It's by no means "transcending".

And again, that's why they're buffing the whole cast. So that nobody has bad match ups.
 
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I kind of hope Sakurai gives Pac-Man a colored eye alt. The one specifically from Pac-Man Party. It's not a requirement, but I feel catering to Namco's history to the extent of pixalated sprites within Pac-Man's moveset is a bit too much.

If anything- give him something relevant.
 

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Hey guys,​

Did anybody else feel bad for Pit when they took away his glide mechanic? I mean, I guess it makes sense, considering they buffed up his ground game a lot....​

I just hope they don't strip Meta Knight of gliding. That would suck so bad. At this point, they shouldn't need to nerf Meta Knight because all the other cast seems to have been buffed quite a bit. That should even out the odds, right?​

Keep Meta Knight the same, maybe a little less knockback on his moves. And just confirm him already Sakurai! We know he's not cut. What's taking so long??(Yeah, he's my main lol)

SSB 4 LIFE!!!​
MK will still need nerfs. Lower his kill power by quite a bit, give his moves less priority (aka get rid of the transcendent stuff), shorten Tornado some, get rid of the super armor on Shuttle Loop, and reduce his speed s tad bit and he would be good to go.

MK is the best character in Brawl for a reason. He has too many good things going for him and almost no bad things, at least in the physics of Brawl.

Or just do what Project M did with. That works to lol.

At the end of the day, you can work around his priority. It's by no means "transcending".
This is where I know you don't know what you are talking about.

Transcendent priority is a type of priority that ignores the rules of regular priority, they cannot collide with, clash with, cancel out, or be cancelled out by other hitboxes, and all of MK's standard attacks except Dash Attack have this special priority.

........

Anyway.

Familiar raising in Ni No Kuni is still frustrating as hell.
 

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Anyway.

Familiar raising in Ni No Kuni is still frustrating as hell.
The game itself is. To me personally, the battles were horribly boring and repetitive PLUS you got into so many of them I just ended up selling it and finishing the story on wikipedia. This saddened me as I wanted to play the game with some of my favorite art ever.
 

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My anniversary is in a couple weeks.

Of course, I found out apparently I had account here back in 2007 but forgot about it, but that's okay cause I was in 7th grade back then. Blech.
 

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The game itself is. To me personally, the battles were horribly boring and repetitive PLUS you got into so many of them I just ended up selling it and finishing the story on wikipedia. This saddened me as I wanted to play the game with some of my favorite art ever.
I felt the same way when I first started playing it. The whole ARPG mixed into a turn based RPG was weird, however I eventually got use to it.

I actually find it rather fun to play. I just dislike how the made taming Familiars work, and they don't offer an easy way to train up new familiars so you can use them instead of the ones you already got. Like I seriously wanna replace my Mite but the pain of getting a new Familiar up to it's level is a pain. >_<
 

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Well Smashboarders, I'm taking a vacation for a few weeks.. you all could care less, I know, but It's time for that gif....




Have fun with it while I'm gone. :p
 

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Sure. Sure...
And then when it botches like this will do we'll have nothing t blame but ourselves for going along with such a stupid idea.
If only the Miiversians could learn that also.
A war against the admins here? Hmm... I guess it depends on what we would want the new regime to be like. I've dealt with war myself back in the days of a similar nature, banning people worked more then well.
 

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Of course, I found out apparently I had account here back in 2007 but forgot about it, but that's okay cause I was in 7th grade back then. Blech.
Oh trust me, thank God I found here at my age.
If you think I'm annoying now, just try my younger years.
 

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A war against the admins here? Hmm... I guess it depends on what we would want the new regime to be like. I've dealt with war myself back in the days of a similar nature, banning people worked more then well.
Well, not here.
I'm referring to Miiverse. They're gonna protest against the admins.
 

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omg omg omg, tell me all about India please.

Is your political/media landscape shaped towards western or eastern spheres of influence?
What are the high schools/universities like? Are you religious? Hindu? Do you have any unusual animals living within your city bounds?
I'm late, but eh.

The politics are media are almost completely shaped by the west.

The High School and Universities are a leftover of the British Raj, to put it simply.

Yes, I've been raised as a Hindu.

Well, the definition of unusual would vary, I'll list the animals you can easily see in cities.
- Cats, Dogs and Cows are almost everywhere.
- If you go to the suburbs, you can also encounter pigs and buffalos.
- On rare occasions, you can catch a glimpse of domesticated horses, camels and elephants.
 

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Why? Because the admins find cursing people out for not agreeing with their requests for Shrek distasteful?
Nope, it's even more moronic.
See, they made a time limit for how long you can post again (a couple minutes) to prevent spam.
And Miiversians hate it, and are gonna protest it on July 10th.
 

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I'm late, but eh.

The politics are media are almost completely shaped by the west.

The High School and Universities are a leftover of the British Raj, to put it simply.

Yes, I've been raised as a Hindu.

Well, the definition of unusual would vary, I'll list the animals you can easily see in cities.
- Cats, Dogs and Cows are almost everywhere.
- If you go to the suburbs, you can also encounter pigs and buffalos.
- On rare occasions, you can catch a glimpse of domesticated horses, camels and elephants.
(btw I've been hiding, waiting, lurking, for the opportunity to go HAM relating to you being from India =))
omg omg omg are you good at cooking? I SHOULD BE ABLE TO TRUST YOUR COOKING AS A VEGETARIAN RIGHT?!

I often hear how society is still heavily caste based, do you find that is still prolific?
 
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(btw I've been hiding, waiting, lurking, for the opportunity to go HAM relating to you being from India =))
omg omg omg are you good at cooking? I SHOULD BE ABLE TO TRUST YOUR COOKING AS A VEGETARIAN RIGHT?!

I often hear how society is still heavily caste based, do you find that is still prolific?
I'm terrible at cooking. Don't count it. :laugh: I might have been good if I were female.

The caste system is there, but not really prolific anymore. The government has worked hard to curb it. You can still see its effect in rural areas, but hardly in the cities.
 

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Nope, it's even more moronic.
See, they made a time limit for how long you can post again (a couple minutes) to prevent spam.
And Miiversians hate it, and are gonna protest it on July 10th.
How cute, something totally useless with no amount of people to actually make a change happening... Aw...
 

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How cute, something totally useless with no amount of people to actually make a change happening... Aw...
It's funny too.
People there are even saying this is a stupid idea, yet they're still going along with this.
Ah well, it's just means entertainment for us!
 
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Nope, it's even more moronic.
See, they made a time limit for how long you can post again (a couple minutes) to prevent spam.
And Miiversians hate it, and are gonna protest it on July 10th.
A bunch of people who want to get together and protest about something negligible?
Sounds vaguely familiar... I've been on the internet too long.
 

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I'm terrible at cooking. Don't count it. :laugh: I might have been good if I were female.

The caste system is there, but not really prolific anymore. The government has worked hard to curb it. You can still see its effect in rural areas, but hardly in the cities.
Sif, cooking is a grand thing for masculinity! It isn't hard I swear. First you heat some ghee. Then you throw in some things with some spices stirring through for like 5 minutes. EASY!!!
iono, I don't find things too hard. My mother lived in India for quite a while and the reason I was raised as a Vegetarian is primarily due to her being pretty culturally/spiritually influenced by Hinduism. Nothing beats Indus cuisine.

Is the British/Raj remnants still culturally clashing? Could be misinterpreting your tone, but you sound like you dislike it/that/etc?

Is there a smash scene in India at all?
 
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