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Frostwraith

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Zwzchow said:
It's pretty hot now even though we have no seasons :/
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No seasons?

According to your location, you're in Singapore, so it makes sense, considering you're near the Equator...

Heat throughout all the year... Not sure if I'd like to live in such a place...
 
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CliffJumper said:
Just 50 more pages until this thread reaches 1000 pages.
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I remember when we were on the 69th page.

I don't know why I remember that one in particular, nothing interesting happened on it.
 
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I wonder if Nintendo would ever make another one of those Mario Soccer games. The first two seemed pretty popular. Give it some better online and an updated roster, and they'd be set to go. Though if Next Level games works on something else, like another Punch-Out!!, then I'd be a little more intrigued in that.
 
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Thekewlusername said:
I wonder if Nintendo would ever make another one of those Mario Soccer games. The first two seemed pretty popular. Give it some better online and an updated roster, and they'd be set to go. Though if Next Level games works on something else, like another Punch-Out!!, then I'd be a little more intrigued in that.
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I loved Mario Strikers this year would been perfect with the world cup.
 
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Hey guys,​

Did anybody else feel bad for Pit when they took away his glide mechanic? I mean, I guess it makes sense, considering they buffed up his ground game a lot....​

I just hope they don't strip Meta Knight of gliding. That would suck so bad. At this point, they shouldn't need to nerf Meta Knight because all the other cast seems to have been buffed quite a bit. That should even out the odds, right?​

Keep Meta Knight the same, maybe a little less knockback on his moves. And just confirm him already Sakurai! We know he's not cut. What's taking so long??(Yeah, he's my main lol)

SSB 4 LIFE!!!​
 
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American JEDI said:
Hey guys,​

Anybody else feel bad for Pit when they took away his glide mechanic? I mean, I guess it makes sense, considering they buffed up his ground game a lot....​

I just hope they don't strip Meta Knight of gliding. That would suck so bad. At this point, they shouldn't need to nerf Meta Knight because all the other cast seems to have been buffed quite a bit. That should even out the odds, right?​

Keep Meta Knight the same, maybe a little less knockback on his moves. (Yeah, he's my main lol)​
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MK just needs nerfed power.
 
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MSmariosonic said:
Yes. Don't forget that MK is in the SS tier.
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I know, but don't forget that SS Tier just means he's most likely to get used and win at tournaments. That was due to the fact that most other characters weren't as easy to pick up and took more effort to do well with.

I believe that with all these new character buffs people are more likely to pick up and main other characters that used to be lower on the Tier list. Look at Mario for instance. Major buffs. And heavy hitters Bowser & DK. They play so good now. I know we're gonna see these kinds of characters more often at major tournaments as their metagame continues to evolve.
 
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American JEDI said:
I know, but don't forget that SS Tier just means he's most likely to get used and win at tournaments. That was due to the fact that most other characters weren't as easy to pick up and took more effort to do well with.

I believe that with ask these new character buffs people are more likely to pick up and main other characters that used to be let Tier. Look at Mario for instance. Major buffs. And heavy hitters Bowser & DK. They play so good now. I know we're gonna see these kinds of characters more often see major tournaments as their methane continues to evolve.
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Meta Knight was SS Tier because he had (virtually) no bad MUs. It was not that other characters were not as easy to pick up or that they took more effort, it was that they were a waste of time to learn because Meta Knight would outperform them regardless. Either way, his usage and win-rate is the problem, which is why he is going to receive a much needed nerf. That is called balance. You do not scale everyone else to deal with one character, you nerf the one character.
 
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MorbidAltruism said:
Either way, his usage and win-rate is the problem
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NO.

If that were the case, we should start banning characters and/or combinations that have a higher yield for winning all across the board.

That is not why people were trying to get MK banned. Or rather, that wasn't the right reason.

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Smooth Criminal said:
NO.

If that were the case, we should start banning characters and/or combinations that have a higher yield for winning all across the board.

That is not why people were trying to get MK banned. Or rather, that wasn't the right reason.

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It is the inherent issue as if no one used him or won with him, no one would assert that he is "over-powered worthy of his own tier." I am not going to go into all of the technicalities. I understand the "real" reason that he was banned, but lets be serious, it can be surmised as "he is op."
 
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Meta knight needs some fine tuning. Granted. An appropriate nerf would be to either take away some of his knockback or some of his damage per move.

However, don't dare to touch his starting and ending lag times cuz then you've taken away what makes him unique.

Fastest attacking, light hitter, descent knockback, very combo heavy.

Just make the hit damage and knockback a little less devastating.
 
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American JEDI said:
Meta knight needs some fine tuning. Granted. An appropriate nerf would be to either take away some of his knockback or some of his damage per move.

However, don't dare to touch his starting and ending lag times cuz then you've taken away what makes him unique.

Fastest attacking, light hitter, descent knockback, very combo heavy.

Just make the hit damage and knockback a little less devastating.
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The problem was his "transcending priority," albeit it made him unique, it also helped to ensure that he had no bad MUs. So that is probably going to be the first thing to get nerfed and the reason that many cite him as one of the best characters. His damage and knock-back are mostly fine actually.
 
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