• Welcome to Smashboards, the world's largest Super Smash Brothers community! Over 250,000 Smash Bros. fans from around the world have come to discuss these great games in over 19 million posts!

    You are currently viewing our boards as a visitor. Click here to sign up right now and start on your path in the Smash community!

Social Smash 4 Social Topic 2.0

Status
Not open for further replies.

Radical Bones

Soul King
Joined
Sep 23, 2013
Messages
6,035
Location
Down Under
Switch FC
SW-3027-1027-5433
Can someone tell me why the leaks thread was deleted?
Because people hardly ever spoke about leaks. They argued about characters and made life hard for mods. It was a long time coming, really. It was full of fake leaks from GameFAQS and 4chan, which were discussed briefly in between arguments and immaturity.
 

Verde Coeden Scalesworth

Flap and Swish~
Premium
Joined
Aug 13, 2001
Messages
34,408
Location
Cull Hazard
NNID
Irene4
3DS FC
1203-9265-8784
Switch FC
SW-7567-8572-3791
Can someone tell me why the leaks thread was deleted?
It's still there. Just no longer stickied and locked. Also, what others said. It was a problem, and people refused to behave. I only posted twice, and I kept it on-topic, where there were more than one page with off-topic nonsense and multiple Warning's given. The Mods shouldn't have to police it that badly.
 

The Real Gamer

Smash Hero
Joined
May 7, 2008
Messages
9,166
Location
Atlanta, Georgia
3DS FC
3437-3797-6559
I'm personally glad that thread is gone... 99% of stuff posted in there was either blatantly false rumors or off topic nonsense.

And don't even get me started on some of the posters that were hell bent on bringing up the same arguments that were continuously getting shot down. -.-
 
Last edited:

Jason the Yoshi

Watching Me, Wanting Me
Joined
Feb 26, 2014
Messages
18,791
Location
Waiting for Jesus
I'm personally glad that thread is gone... 99% of stuff posted in there was either blatantly false rumors or off topic nonsense.

And don't even get me started on some of the posters that were hell bent on bringing up the same arguments that were continuously getting shot down. -.-
Yeah, that's the thing about leaks, all fake, except maybe Palutena. The thing about all those leaks is that none of them had Krystal. Them guys don't ever learn
 

Verde Coeden Scalesworth

Flap and Swish~
Premium
Joined
Aug 13, 2001
Messages
34,408
Location
Cull Hazard
NNID
Irene4
3DS FC
1203-9265-8784
Switch FC
SW-7567-8572-3791
I'm personally glad that thread is gone... 99% of stuff posted in there was either blatantly false rumors or off topic nonsense.

And don't even get me started on some of the posters that were hell bent on bringing up the same arguments that were continuously getting shot down. -.-
The thread isn't gone. It's just unsticked and locked. I haven't seen any reason to delete it, since it still has good information. Lock it to prevent problems, of course! But yeah, go to the subforum and look down further. You'll see the topic.
 

Shaya

   「chase you」 
BRoomer
Joined
Jun 8, 2007
Messages
27,654
Location
/人◕‿‿◕人\ FABULOUS Max!
NNID
ShayaJP
ah good ol IsmaR glad to see you haven't changed
Every day at sunrise (5.28am tomorrow) I force my cadets awake and make them do jumping stars and rope climbing while chanting "INFRACTION? SATISFACTION!"
IsmaR is the most enthusiastic of our cadets. *sheds a tear*

Also the Rumor/Leak thread was an epic battle, played out in heaven (or hell, depending on who you ask).
 
Last edited:

RelaxAlax

That Smash Guy
Joined
Aug 11, 2013
Messages
1,318
Location
Ontario
I sincerely hope this doesn't cause people to bring leaks elsewhere, such as deciding to make threads or putting them in here. But I'm sure mods have got that handled (I hope.)
 

DraginHikari

Emerald Star Legacy
Joined
Sep 20, 2007
Messages
2,821
Location
Omaha, NE
NNID
Draginhikari
3DS FC
4940-5455-2427
Switch FC
SW-7120-1891-0342
I think it's just the matter that it is much easier on the moderators to deal with them if they pop up here or in new threads then in a thread devoted to it.
 

The Real Gamer

Smash Hero
Joined
May 7, 2008
Messages
9,166
Location
Atlanta, Georgia
3DS FC
3437-3797-6559
The Mewtwo jokes are getting a bit annoying at this point... Can someone please explain why Mewtwo's chances are somehow lesser than they used to be before Greninja/Lucario's inclusion?

Last time I checked there are only 4 Pokemon on the roster so far, which is 2 less than we had in Brawl. 2 slots that are clearly going to Mewtwo and Jiggs IMO.
 
Last edited:

Substitution

Deacon Blues
Joined
Dec 27, 2013
Messages
28,756
Location
Denial
NNID
MisterVideo
Wait, what happened at the Rumors and Leaks thread?
Last time I checked they were using clouds as actual evidence for Pac-Man.

The Mewtwo jokes are getting a bit annoying at this point... Can someone please explain why Mewtwo's chances are somehow lesser than they used to be before Greninja/Lucario's inclusion?
Actually, that's not the joke.

The joke is referring to how everyone was expecting Mewtwo, but instead we got Greninja (and Charizard if you want to include him). And how they reacted accordingly.
 
Last edited:

Verde Coeden Scalesworth

Flap and Swish~
Premium
Joined
Aug 13, 2001
Messages
34,408
Location
Cull Hazard
NNID
Irene4
3DS FC
1203-9265-8784
Switch FC
SW-7567-8572-3791
I sincerely hope this doesn't cause people to bring leaks elsewhere, such as deciding to make threads or putting them in here. But I'm sure mods have got that handled (I hope.)
They outright said that to make a new thread for a leak after talking to them, so it should be easier to handle. My only hope is that it doesn't get out of hand or more Mods are needed than they already have.

I mean, let's be honest, we got a ton of new mods not that long ago. That should help, but I doubt they want to babysit tons of people all day long if the subject is just that bad or will cause that much trouble. I know this from experience as a Mod on other forums, or just being around tons of them. It's really a very difficult job for any. Especially with a severe active forum.
 

Spazzy_D

Smash Hero
Joined
Jul 13, 2011
Messages
6,682
NNID
Spazzy_D
3DS FC
1590-4700-7117
It's not like leaks were the problem with that thread anyway. What you don't want are people arguing over whether or not other people are idiots for not thinking certain characters are terrible.
 

Verde Coeden Scalesworth

Flap and Swish~
Premium
Joined
Aug 13, 2001
Messages
34,408
Location
Cull Hazard
NNID
Irene4
3DS FC
1203-9265-8784
Switch FC
SW-7567-8572-3791
It's not like leaks were the problem with that thread anyway. What you don't want are people arguing over whether or not other people are idiots for not thinking certain characters are terrible.
Pretty much. Unfortunately, with any forum, we have problems with those who can't be civil. And there's such a giant amount of people, and leaks themselves are hot debates as is. So put 2 and 2 together, and well...
 

Rainbow Pancake

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Nov 10, 2012
Messages
77
Location
At Mcdonalds stealing their free Wifi
3DS FC
1848-1736-8251
I'm sure I'm not the only one who thought this, but I really feel Sakurai was somewhat influenced by Project M in a way. I mean the flat stages, custom costumes. (Wire frame lil mac and male Wii fit trainer) It's cool to think that Sakurai took a look (and maybe even played) a modded version of his creation.
 

Spazzy_D

Smash Hero
Joined
Jul 13, 2011
Messages
6,682
NNID
Spazzy_D
3DS FC
1590-4700-7117
I'm sure I'm not the only one who thought this, but I really feel Sakurai was somewhat influenced by Project M in a way. I mean the flat stages, custom costumes. (Wire frame lil mac and male Wii fit trainer) It's cool to think that Sakurai took a look (and maybe even played) a modded version of his creation.
I think that Brawl just had some serious (and obvious) short comings, and both Sakurai and the Project M team tackled them in their own ways.
 

DraginHikari

Emerald Star Legacy
Joined
Sep 20, 2007
Messages
2,821
Location
Omaha, NE
NNID
Draginhikari
3DS FC
4940-5455-2427
Switch FC
SW-7120-1891-0342
The Mewtwo jokes are getting a bit annoying at this point... Can someone please explain why Mewtwo's chances are somehow lesser than they used to be before Greninja/Lucario's inclusion?

Last time I checked there are only 4 Pokemon on the roster so far, which is 2 less than we had in Brawl. 2 slots that are clearly going to Mewtwo and Jiggs IMO.
Prehaps I'm misreading the jokes in general but my prespective on the Greninja/Mewtwo situation was more of a result of many people reaction to the situation then the possiblitiy of Mewtwo being completely out of the realm of possibility.

Out of boredom one evening a few days after the direct I watched probably 20+ reactions on youtube on the Greninja trailer and probably only 2 or 3 at the most came to the realization that it wasn't Mewtwo before Greninja was actually revealed. Though I think Greninja has had a pretty positive reaction overall there were still quite a few of those out there that displayed anger about the situation.
 

Verde Coeden Scalesworth

Flap and Swish~
Premium
Joined
Aug 13, 2001
Messages
34,408
Location
Cull Hazard
NNID
Irene4
3DS FC
1203-9265-8784
Switch FC
SW-7567-8572-3791
I'm sure I'm not the only one who thought this, but I really feel Sakurai was somewhat influenced by Project M in a way. I mean the flat stages, custom costumes. (Wire frame lil mac and male Wii fit trainer) It's cool to think that Sakurai took a look (and maybe even played) a modded version of his creation.
Wii Fit Trainer was too easy to see. Keep in mind in the games, there's a male and female variant, but they're the same character besides that. It's not like you even directly play as them either in Wii Fit. You play as Mii's.

Also, he made a Daisy and Blood Falcon costume well before Project M. I doubt the costumes were anywhere near related to that. Also, the first battle course in the SSE is a reskinned non-hazard version of Pokemon Stadium 1. While it's possible he looked at it, all that stuff are just evolutions of Brawl stuff he made.

Mind you, I don't remember Project M specifically having a customizable moveset option as some kind of toggle, so maybe he got the idea from that. But otherwise, Project M didn't inspire those examples, or there's enough reason to believe they didn't.
 
Last edited:

Verde Coeden Scalesworth

Flap and Swish~
Premium
Joined
Aug 13, 2001
Messages
34,408
Location
Cull Hazard
NNID
Irene4
3DS FC
1203-9265-8784
Switch FC
SW-7567-8572-3791
Prehaps I'm misreading the jokes in general but my prespective on the Greninja/Mewtwo situation was more of a result of many people reaction to the situation then the possiblitiy of Mewtwo being completely out of the realm of possibility.

Out of boredom one evening a few days after the direct I watched probably 20+ reactions on youtube on the Greninja trailer and probably only 2 or 3 at the most came to the realization that it wasn't Mewtwo before Greninja was actually revealed. Though I think Greninja has had a pretty positive reaction overall there were still quite a few of those out there that displayed anger about the situation.
It is that. Many thought he was in the reveal trailer, not Greninja.

Only some very uninformed people(since they think there's some "only 4 playable" or whatever thing is going on. Brawl had 6 exact characters, directly confirmed by Sakurai too, so it's not a logical conclusion to make) are thinking this means Mewtwo is out. Now, while I can see a 6th slot(after Jigglypuff's expected return) not going directly to Mewtwo, he is very relevant right now and pretty much one of the best choices. To note, I don't like only introducing one new Pokemon instead of at least 2 minimum per game, but Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Mewtwo, Charizard, Lucario, and Greninja is a very robust Pokemon roster and definitely would work great. It's very pleasing as is to many. So I can't argue with it being bad at all. It'd also quiet down the whole "Lucario is too similar to Mewtwo" and "Greninja replaced Mewtwo" fanatics.
 

The Real Gamer

Smash Hero
Joined
May 7, 2008
Messages
9,166
Location
Atlanta, Georgia
3DS FC
3437-3797-6559
Prehaps I'm misreading the jokes in general but my prespective on the Greninja/Mewtwo situation was more of a result of many people reaction to the situation then the possiblitiy of Mewtwo being completely out of the realm of possibility.

Out of boredom one evening a few days after the direct I watched probably 20+ reactions on youtube on the Greninja trailer and probably only 2 or 3 at the most came to the realization that it wasn't Mewtwo before Greninja was actually revealed. Though I think Greninja has had a pretty positive reaction overall there were still quite a few of those out there that displayed anger about the situation.
A lot of people legitimately think Mewtwo's chances are shot now thanks to the inclusion of Greninja and Lucario, which makes 0 sense to me.
 

DraginHikari

Emerald Star Legacy
Joined
Sep 20, 2007
Messages
2,821
Location
Omaha, NE
NNID
Draginhikari
3DS FC
4940-5455-2427
Switch FC
SW-7120-1891-0342
It is that. Many thought he was in the reveal trailer, not Greninja.

Only some very uninformed people(since they think there's some "only 4 playable" or whatever thing is going on. Brawl had 6 exact characters, directly confirmed by Sakurai too, so it's not a logical conclusion to make) are thinking this means Mewtwo is out. Now, while I can see a 6th slot(after Jigglypuff's expected return) not going directly to Mewtwo, he is very relevant right now and pretty much one of the best choices. To note, I don't like only introducing one new Pokemon instead of at least 2 minimum per game, but Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Mewtwo, Charizard, Lucario, and Greninja is a very robust Pokemon roster and definitely would work great. It's very pleasing as is to many. So I can't argue with it being bad at all. It'd also quiet down the whole "Lucario is too similar to Mewtwo" and "Greninja replaced Mewtwo" fanatics.
That same thing happened when Lucario was revealed to though I think the reaction to Lucario was a bit harsher then it was for Greninja as Lucario is often viewed as Mewtwo's 'replacement' after it was determined that Mewtwo was not in brawl.

I will admit I didn't even really think about Mewtwo when I was watching the trailer as he's kind one of those meh characters for me, even with his distant popularity I don't really care if they bring him back or if they leave him out if Mewtwo had been revealed I would probably had still been more excited with Charizard as a returning character then Mewtwo. However, I do agree that Greninja deconfirming Mewtwo is a bit premature and there is no basis in fact for it.
 

Verde Coeden Scalesworth

Flap and Swish~
Premium
Joined
Aug 13, 2001
Messages
34,408
Location
Cull Hazard
NNID
Irene4
3DS FC
1203-9265-8784
Switch FC
SW-7567-8572-3791
That same thing happened when Lucario was revealed to though I think the reaction to Lucario was a bit harsher then it was for Greninja as Lucario is often viewed as Mewtwo's 'replacement' after it was determined that Mewtwo was not in brawl.
And the thing is? Until we found Mewtwo was planned, that was a very legitimate stance to take. But once we find out the data, it was false. After Young Link was turned into Toon Link, I could understand that reaction. If you didn't know about the Forbidden 7. But all you have to do is simply look that up and find out "Okay, I was wrong." Also, notably, Mewtwo had little relevance during Brawl's development. He had no notable appearances at all beyond of course being in FireRed/LeafGreen. And small Events here and there. He wasn't in the Anime at all, no movies, no major promotions. He had nothing on Lucario. Now he's back with a vengeance. Or she, if her new movie version means anything. Dang voice actors. :p

I will admit I didn't even really think about Mewtwo when I was watching the trailer as he's kind one of those meh characters for me, even with his distant popularity I don't really care if they bring him back or if they leave him out if Mewtwo had been revealed I would probably had still been more excited with Charizard as a returning character then Mewtwo. However, I do agree that Greninja deconfirming Mewtwo is a bit premature and there is no basis in fact for it.
I first thought it was Shadow Ball. But I am quite pleased that Smash 4 isn't overrun by 1st Gen Pokemon again, having at least 2 from other Gens, so it was just plain awesome.

For the record, I preferred transformations, but from a gameplay standpoint, they kind of sucked in practice.
 

MSmariosonic

Smash Hero
Joined
Jun 15, 2013
Messages
5,856
Location
Heaven, as of december 7th
NNID
kidtendo1996
3DS FC
3566-1932-7732
Switch FC
SW 0383 4539 4118
It's funny that Lucario and Toon Link are one of the most hated veterans while both being my best friend's mains.
People seem to dislike Toon Link because he is a clone...which he isn't. He's a semi-clone.
As for Lucario. The hate he gets is because he "replaced" Mewtwo. And for some reason people still think he's a clone of Mewtwo.
 

Rainbow Pancake

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Nov 10, 2012
Messages
77
Location
At Mcdonalds stealing their free Wifi
3DS FC
1848-1736-8251
A lot of people legitimately think Mewtwo's chances are shot now thanks to the inclusion of Greninja and Lucario, which makes 0 sense to me.
I think a lot of people say that because of the fact that Jiggly still hasn't been announced yet, but will most likely be in. I'm pretty sure the Original 12 have a 100% chance of being in the next smash, seeing how they have been for the last two. That's why Mewtwo chances slim, seeing as adding both him and Jiggly would be too much.
 
Last edited:

Wario Bros.

Smash Obsessed
Joined
May 19, 2006
Messages
24,268
Location
In a van down by the river
NNID
WarioBrose
3DS FC
0903-2806-9000
Switch FC
SW-8539-3655-2004
While I somewhat like the jokes, I don't like people are baselessly saying Mewtwo is cut because of Greninja. Although I'm buying the games regardless if Mewtwo's in or not, Mewtwo has yet to be confirmed or deconfirmed.
 

MSmariosonic

Smash Hero
Joined
Jun 15, 2013
Messages
5,856
Location
Heaven, as of december 7th
NNID
kidtendo1996
3DS FC
3566-1932-7732
Switch FC
SW 0383 4539 4118
I think a lot of people say that because of the fact that Jiggly still hasn't been announced yet, but will most likely be in. I'm pretty sure the Original 16 have a 100% chance of being in the next smash, seeing how they have been for the last two. That's why Mewtwo chances slim, seeing as adding both him and Jiggly would be too much.
16?
 

DraginHikari

Emerald Star Legacy
Joined
Sep 20, 2007
Messages
2,821
Location
Omaha, NE
NNID
Draginhikari
3DS FC
4940-5455-2427
Switch FC
SW-7120-1891-0342
And the thing is? Until we found Mewtwo was planned, that was a very legitimate stance to take. But once we find out the data, it was false. After Young Link was turned into Toon Link, I could understand that reaction. If you didn't know about the Forbidden 7. But all you have to do is simply look that up and find out "Okay, I was wrong." Also, notably, Mewtwo had little relevance during Brawl's development. He had no notable appearances at all beyond of course being in FireRed/LeafGreen. And small Events here and there. He wasn't in the Anime at all, no movies, no major promotions. He had nothing on Lucario. Now he's back with a vengeance. Or she, if her new movie version means anything. Dang voice actors. :p


I first thought it was Shadow Ball. But I am quite pleased that Smash 4 isn't overrun by 1st Gen Pokemon again, having at least 2 from other Gens, so it was just plain awesome.

For the record, I preferred transformations, but from a gameplay standpoint, they kind of sucked in practice.
The screaming of the Mewtwo doom mostly. As far as the attack, I wasn't really paying attention much to the attack itself as it was more 'why is that Pokemon hanging upside down' which was probably the reason my mind didn't immediately go to Mewtwo.
 

Ta1nted_4ngel29

Smash Ace
Joined
Feb 18, 2014
Messages
839
Location
Canada
NNID
Ta1nted_4ngel29
For all we know, Sakurai added Mewtwo back in due to fan demand and is just toying with his fans by teasing him until the 3ds release and leaving him as a secret unlock character. Probably doing the same thing with Ridley too.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom