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[Jason the Yoshi]

Geno lives in the mushroom kingdom's heaven which is where dreams come true

Ok, what I meant was Geno is not even close to famous, and therefore is not eligible for Super Smash Bros. If by sheer dumb luck we get a Square Enix character, it would be Sora

 

[Cap'nChreest]

That'd imply that both Chrom and Robin were intended as unique Fire Emblem newcomers, exactly how likely does that sound, especially with Robin missing from Gematsu to begin with? Not very likely imo. It makes perfect sense to me that the only reason we have 4 FE characters with 2 of them being from Awakening is that Lucina drew that lucky straw, there's just no reason for Chrom to be cut mid-development when he'd likely neither prove to have any technical difficulties or be low priority, worst case scenario he'd have been repurposed into an Ike semi-clone I'm sure.

It just doesn't make sense with Chrom at all imo. Even then the most recent translation seems more likely to be the truth imo.

Except that implies that the leaker stated all of the newcomers. He didn't say that all the newcomers he listed were all of the newcomers in the game. Robin missing from the leak means nothing. Mii swordsman took Chroms spot.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

At least we have the possibility of a Geno-trophy, right? (See: Rayman)

Maybe... (Sniff) Maybe...

 

[CommanderRin]

Wow, can't find any Japanese reactions to the reveal in Nico.

All I find is reactions from youtube uploaded to Nico lol

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Geno should be a trophy, that'd be cool. Can't see him playable, though. Why was he even considered in the first place?

Because he was on Sakurai's poll

and because he's awesome

 

[FalKoopa]

If Geno was cut I'd be PISSED

Well, we have no way of knowing luckily.

 

[TeenGirlSquad]

Oh god it was Rayman

 

[Superyoshiom]

Oh god it was Rayman

Wait for real?!

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Except that implies that the leaker stated all of the newcomers. He didn't say that all the newcomers he listed were all of the newcomers in the game. Robin missing from the leak means nothing. Mii swordsman took Chroms spot.

Doesn't matter at this point as the translation was a fluke, there's no mention of a cut character anyways according to a few more translations.

 

[Cap'nChreest]

Oh god it was Rayman

No way Ray man suxxxxx


Listen to gam explain talk about how ray man shouldn't ever be a trophy or character.

Then apply bandages to your ears while they bleed.

 

[Pazzo.]

FALCON... GIF!!

 

[Superyoshiom]

Well anyways, I have an unrelated question. How do you find those mega high quality renders of the newcomers?

Sorry if it seems like I'm spamming posts, I just keep getting new ideas to post about.

 

[mimgrim]

A different translation from a NeoGaf user that was posted on the Lucina general discussion thread here:

"Originally Lucina was a Marth color variation because they're related characters. The have different names and voices but play the same, and would receive treatment similar to male/female WFT, Villager and Robin. However, while Lucina's fighting style is the same, she has different characteristics. Because there's only a small difference, she would be a convenient additional character. This made her a lucky newcomer pick."

This makes a lot more sense. Especially since Sakurai said something similar in the PoTD.

 

[TewnLeenk]

Well anyways, I have an unrelated question. How do you find those mega high quality renders of the newcomers?

Sorry if it seems like I'm spamming posts, I just keep getting new ideas to post about.

Here y'are.

http://imgur.com/a/JnDO7

 

[Cap'nChreest]

I don't know why I always defend the Gematsu leak. I don't even care about it lol.

Last year the leak was fake. A week later it was real. 6 months later it was fake. 2 months ago it was real. Two weeks ago it was 100 percent accurate. Now its fake. Whatever. I'm sure when a Chorus kid is revealed it will be real again.

 

[Substitution]

So, are there any Metroid passwords that glitch things up?

 

[JamesDNaux]

Well this is certainly interesting, but I'm a man on a mission and I'm low on time. So here's a copied post from another thread:

I've just taken over the Rayman thread and updated the OP, so anyone who hasn't shown support yet, or any new fans, please show your support by posting! And even if you're not a fan, if you're alright with the idea of Rayman appearing as DLC, please also add your name to the list so that we can gather large enough support to make some noise and get him added!


-I want to have support up by the time the games are released, so I need to get this around.

 

[dimensionsword64]

FORCED to cut? Is that just a manner of speech, or did he mean that literally? Could have been a third-party.

Pretty sure it's just a manner of speech.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I'm against Rayman in Smash

 

[Cap'nChreest]

So, are there any Metroid passwords that glitch things up?

J U S T I N B A I L E Y
- - - - - - - - - - - -


B B B B B B B B B B B B
B B B B B B I I I I I I

Apparently the last one breaks the game or something I haven't done it.

 

[Rocket Raccoon]

I'm against Rayman in Smash

And I'm against Geno in Smash.

Spoiler

lol jk

 

[allison]

So, are there any Metroid passwords that glitch things up?

ENGAGE RIDLEY
MOTHER F*CKER

 

[TeenGirlSquad]

Where the heck is Lara Croft

 

[Rocket Raccoon]

Where the heck is Lara Croft

In the Lara Croft games.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Rayman making it into smash would be an insult to one of my most wanted character

Who Sakurai considered but decided NOT to add because the whole separated limbs thing

So if Rayman could work, so could he

and he's first party

 

[Deleted member]

Regardless of the (intentional) mistranslation, I still think Chrom could have planned during the super early stages.

WARNING: STRAW GRASP APPROACHING

This early stage is when the Gematsu tipper obtained his info. Later on, roster is revised, and either Robin is added alongside Chrom, or replaces him outright. Rosalina is added here too. If Chrom wasn't cut at this point, he was probably one of the lowest priority characters. Chrom would later be cut due to not having enough time to fully create another unique character. Lucina is then promoted to fill his slot, leaving roster count intact. Chrom's model (one of the few things completed on him) was reused for Robin's Final Smash, which at the time, was undecided.

I will grasp as many straws as possible until Shulk happens

 

[RamOne]

Regardless of the (intentional) mistranslation, I still think Chrom could have planned during the super early stages.

WARNING: STRAW GRASP APPROACHING

This early stage is when the Gematsu tipper obtained his info. Later on, roster is revised, and either Robin is added alongside Chrom, or replaces him outright. Rosalina is added here too. If Chrom wasn't cut at this point, he was probably one of the lowest priority characters. Chrom would later be cut due to not having enough time to fully create another unique character. Lucina is then promoted to fill his slot, leaving roster count intact. Chrom's model (one of the few things completed on him) was reused for Robin's Final Smash, which at the time, was undecided.

I will grasp as many straws as possible until Shulk happens

With or without the Gematsu leak, I'm still expecting Shulk. It's Chorus Men I'M scared about. So I'm hopping along with your straw grapping.

 

[Rocket Raccoon]

Regardless of the (intentional) mistranslation, I still think Chrom could have planned during the super early stages.

WARNING: STRAW GRASP APPROACHING

This early stage is when the Gematsu tipper obtained his info. Later on, roster is revised, and either Robin is added alongside Chrom, or replaces him outright. Rosalina is added here too. If Chrom wasn't cut at this point, he was probably one of the lowest priority characters. Chrom would later be cut due to not having enough time to fully create another unique character. Lucina is then promoted to fill his slot, leaving roster count intact. Chrom's model (one of the few things completed on him) was reused for Robin's Final Smash, which at the time, was undecided.

I will grasp as many straws as possible until Shulk happens

 

[FalKoopa]

Regardless of the (intentional) mistranslation, I still think Chrom could have planned during the super early stages.

WARNING: STRAW GRASP APPROACHING

This early stage is when the Gematsu tipper obtained his info. Later on, roster is revised, and either Robin is added alongside Chrom, or replaces him outright. Rosalina is added here too. If Chrom wasn't cut at this point, he was probably one of the lowest priority characters. Chrom would later be cut due to not having enough time to fully create another unique character. Lucina is then promoted to fill his slot, leaving roster count intact. Chrom's model (one of the few things completed on him) was reused for Robin's Final Smash, which at the time, was undecided.

I will grasp as many straws as possible until Shulk happens

Well, it does sound like a plausible scenario.

 

[Cap'nChreest]

Regardless of the (intentional) mistranslation, I still think Chrom could have planned during the super early stages.

WARNING: STRAW GRASP APPROACHING

This early stage is when the Gematsu tipper obtained his info. Later on, roster is revised, and either Robin is added alongside Chrom, or replaces him outright. Rosalina is added here too. If Chrom wasn't cut at this point, he was probably one of the lowest priority characters. Chrom would later be cut due to not having enough time to fully create another unique character. Lucina is then promoted to fill his slot, leaving roster count intact. Chrom's model (one of the few things completed on him) was reused for Robin's Final Smash, which at the time, was undecided.

I will grasp as many straws as possible until Shulk happens

I don't think that deductive reasoning is straw grasping. Detectives aren't straw grasping when they do their jobs(most of the time). They reason a possible solution from what they've seen.


If a Brawl leaker said Dixie was in and she wasn't then everyone would think that the leak was wrong until they realize later that Dixie was actually planned for the game. People like to jump the gun a lot saying "FAKE" just so they can go with the flow or whatever everyone else says without looking at the information

Ok maybe that was harsh...

People like to say fake because that seems like the right solution to them.

 

[TeenGirlSquad]

Rayman making it into smash would be an insult to one of my most wanted character

Who Sakurai considered but decided NOT to add because the whole separated limbs thing

So if Rayman could work, so could he

and he's first party

I thought Sukapon wasn't added because he was very obscure, and there was very little chance of him ever coming to America.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I thought Sukapon wasn't added because he was very obscure, and there was very little chance of him ever coming to America.

No

From what I read it was more about his disconnected body

Edit: Although that could have played a factor in him not trying harder

 

[Pyra]

People should stop associating Shulk with the leak and realize he can get in on his own merits.

 

[JamesDNaux]

Technology back then =/= technology now. Sakurai has grown as a developer.

And I would think that the mascot of a major gaming company would be far better than some obscure second-rate character.

Also, was it not just said that the initial translation was wrong, and that no one was actually cut in the middle of development? Why are people still spinning wild theories?

 

[Vintage Creep]

People who complain about Link's face, what do you think of Lucina's?
Seems so lifeless and cheap to me

 

[Cap'nChreest]

People who complain about Link's face, what do you think of Lucina's?
Seems so lifeless and cheap to me

Palutena's too. The more human the face the less human the face. The uncanny valley is real.

 

[TeenGirlSquad]

People who complain about Link's face, what do you think of Lucina's?
Seems so lifeless and cheap to me

A lot of the faces look lifeless, ZSS, Palutena, you name it.

 

[Substitution]

J U S T I N B A I L E Y
- - - - - - - - - - - -


B B B B B B B B B B B B
B B B B B B I I I I I I

Apparently the last one breaks the game or something I haven't done it.

Yeah, the last one crashed my DS.
Ah well, at least I'll always have the door glitch...

 

[Frostwraith]

According to the other translations, it's more like:
- Sakurai and his team planned Lucina to be a Marth alt, complete with name change and voice change.
- They change minds during development and, using Lucina's alt as a basis (model, animations...), they change her to be a tweaked version of Marth. The animations were done, all that was needed was some minute changes concerning gameplay mechanic. Specifically in this case, it means the different sword mechanics and the shorter range.
- Lucina is "promoted" to a character, thanks to the tweaks, as alts are meant to be aesthetic changes.

This being true, we might see characters as alts AND what Sakurai meant with "characters as alts" likely meant "different gameplay styles selectable through costumes".

In other words, for Sakurai, a slot might represent a gameplay change.

 

[SwagzillaForilla]

People who complain about Link's face, what do you think of Lucina's?
Seems so lifeless and cheap to me

So I'm not the only one that thought it looked a little off.

Personally, I think it looks better in the 3DS screenshots.