Social Smash 4 Social Topic 2.0

[Autumn ♫]

I guess I'm the exception that proves the rule, but none of my friends were raised the way thinking that being beaten by grills was a thing to be ashamed of!

If I was beaten by a grill, I'd be kind of ashamed.

 

[Ta1nted_4ngel29]

I want to know.
What is your biggest desire for 3DS and what's your biggest desire for WiiU?

For the Virtual Console to be scrapped and to allow all the games that use it to have save files on the 3DS/Wii U internal memory.

 

[Sehnsucht]

For me, it doesn't really matter what sex or gender beats me off.

 

[Morbi]

Growing up, I was largely taught that getting beat in board and card games didn't really count because part of it had to with chance anyways. In my family, especially my grandmother, the women are significantly better than the men at cards. Sports, on the other hand, was entirely different. If you got beat by a girl, you wouldn't hear the end of it for a long time and I had friends who had dads who would kick the crap out of them if they did.

If they could not handle a little girl, what makes them think that they could handle a full grown "man"?

 

[Kenith]

Growing up, I was largely taught that getting beat in board and card games didn't really count because part of it had to with chance anyways. In my family, especially my grandmother, the women are significantly better than the men at cards. Sports, on the other hand, was entirely different. If you got beat by a girl, you wouldn't hear the end of it for a long time and I had friends who had dads who would kick the crap out of them if they did.

That sounds terrible.

I consider my community to be very misogynistic in some regards (though I say that about a lot of things) but that kind of stuff is unheard of for me.
Do you mean that the dads would actually physically harm their boys for losing to a female.

That kind of stuff gets under my skin.

 

[Morbi]

That sounds terrible.

I consider my community to be very misogynistic in some regards (though I say that about a lot of things) but that kind of stuff is unheard of for me.
Do you mean that the dads would actually physically harm their boys for losing to a female.

That kind of stuff gets under my skin.

Is your community predominately comprised of men? Or are the women misogynistic as well?

 

[Autumn ♫]

I honestly don't ever care if your a boy or a girl. I just know I'll beat you at anything you challenge me to.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

By the way does anyone know why today's pick of the day isn't on the SmashBoards Home Page?
They usually update it pretty quick.

 

[Autumn ♫]

By the way does anyone know why today's pick of the day isn't on the SmashBoards Home Page?
They usually update it pretty quick.

It's on there for me. It might just be your computer, because that happens to me every once in a while too.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I kind of enjoy beating woman more than men sometimes

 

[Frostwraith]

Skill in video games is independent of sex/gender. A girl can be as or even more skilled as a man.

Just saying.

 

[Kenith]

Is your community predominately comprised of men? Or are the women misogynistic as well?

Honestly, I would say the women are restricting themselves based on such arbitrary rules.

I was using the word incorrectly. Basically, what I am trying to say is that males and females are divided in terms of activities where I live. I don't see and female gamers or nerds, it's always guys. I don't see any guys interested in crafty things or drama.

 

[FalKoopa]

My mother can't get past the first level in super mario bros 3

I inherited my gaming interest from my mother, actually. Back in the day, I used to play SMB and Duck Hunt with her.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Skill in video games is independent of sex/gender. A girl can be as or even more skilled as a man.

Just saying.

Skill in anything is like that we used to have a girl as our quarter-back on our PeeWee team.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Do you think girls could make it in professional football teams?

Asking a question, not making a statement or opinion on it

 

[Morbi]

Skill in anything is like that we used to have a girl as our quarter-back on our PeeWee team.

Impossible.

I inherited my gaming interest from my mother, actually. Back in the day, I used to play SMB and Duck Hunt with her.

I inherited my gaming interest from my mother, she was too busy to spend time with us, so she just bought us video-games. It was a great childhood if I do say so myself.

 

[Moon Monkey]

I hope this doesn't get perpetuated as rules to get into Smash just like that similar list by Sakurai.

Can the game please just come out and speculation just die

I think Sakurai changes the "rules" and criteria for potential characters from installment to installment. I think it is foolish for us to even speculate on the basis of patterns in previous games, because the dude does whatever the hell he wants depending on the given circumstancea... We as fans on the outside looking in, try to makes sense or find meaning to his "patterns" When they probably are nothing more than "Yeah **** it let's put WFT trainer in the game!"

But, I was more so pointing out that people tend to defend and/or shoot down *insert unconfirmed favorite character* character with on the basis of relevancy and sales. When in actuality it boils to how fun and diverse characters moveset is in the roster, and really should be the sole factor of a characters inclusions: They are fun to play. Not sales.

I agree though, at this stage I am done with speculation. I barely even go to the character thread anymore. I think most of us only do it to pass the time as we wait for solid info, but some take this speculation to a whole new level. I've seen people apply "Shadow Math" to promote Ridley's chances. Like what!? I'm done.

 

[Jaedrik]

Sexual dimorphism.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Impossible.

Not really we actually made it to the playoffs with her but when we got in high-school they wouldn't let her play anymore.
It really sucked because she was really good.

 

[Morbi]

I think Sakurai changes the "rules" and criteria for characters from installment to installment. I think it is foolish for us to to speculate on the basis of patterns in previous games, because the dude does whatever the hell he wants depending on the circumstance... We as fans on the outside looking in, try to makes sense or find meaning to his "patterns".

But, I was more so pointing out that people tend to defend and/or shoot down *insert unconfirmed favorite character* character with on the basis of relevancy and sales. When in actuality it boils to how fun and diverse characters moveset is in the roster, and really should be the sole factor of a characters inclusions: They are fun to play. Not sales.

I agree though, at this stage I am done with speculation. I barely even go to the character thread anymore. I think most of us only do it to pass the time as we wait for solid info, but some take this speculation to a whole new level. I've seen people apply "Shadow Math" to promote Ridley's chances. I'm done.

I am not sure, but are you insinuating that precedent is not relevant, objectively?

Secondly, any character has the capacity to be fun; furthermore, "fun" is subjective.

Lastly, I am not done with speculation until the game comes out. I can feel your pain though.

 

[Fatmanonice]

If they could not handle a little girl, what makes them think that they could handle a full grown "man"?

Which is part of the issue too because I used to have severe anger management issues when it came it to competition. I felt like my entire self worth was determined by such things. For example, in middle school, I had the tendency to punch myself in the head and bite my arm until I bled if I did poorly in gym class. Looking back on it, I kind of resent my teachers and coaches never stepping in and trying to stop me, never even talking to my parents about it who tended to just blow me off as "being a drama queen." It wouldn't be until my later high school years when one of my mentors actually worked with me on it, forgiving me after I smashed a $300 racquetball racket he bought me as a gift because he trusted me with it in a fit of unbridled rage.

That sounds terrible.

I consider my community to be very misogynistic in some regards (though I say that about a lot of things) but that kind of stuff is unheard of for me.
Do you mean that the dads would actually physically harm their boys for losing to a female.

That kind of stuff gets under my skin.

Yes. It was extreme behavior and it still happened even in a middle class suburban setting. In the place I live now, which is significantly poorer and further south, this is fairly common. I'm in a part of the US where beating up your kids is still considered by an unsettling number of people as "discipline."

 

[Kenith]

Do you think girls could make it in professional football teams?
Asking a question, not making a statement or opinion on it

Yes, absolutely.

While those who say that physically speaking, they would be at a disadvantage, they have a point, I don't think that is the real reason there aren't any female quarterbacks.

 

[MSmariosonic]

In real life i've been mistaken for a woman. Twice.

 

[NickerBocker]

Indeed, it's true. Every company has its milking franchise, sadly.

2D Mario has been milked lately and that's worthy of criticism. But then you have series like Smash Bros. and Zelda that only are released every few years with long development times and each installment feels different from the one before.

What I think is that a game series needs to be given time. When sequels get released nonstop, the series gets a big decrease in quality because there's not enough time to discuss new ideas for the series.

The ones at fault are both companies who don't take risks and the consumers that will buy anything, convincing companies to assume their actual philosophies.

I think even worst offenders are those sports games like FIFA or PES. Every single year, a game is released and each sequel hardly looks different from the previous game, yet those games sell like crazy. People are willing to buy the exact same game every single year. With such mentalities, no wonder the industry is in decline when it comes to quality and innovation.

Wow exactly.

I used AC as an example because for what its worth, the concept was unexplored and the mechanics were fun, fresh and the game was extremely fluid and approachable. Now while the games are fundamentally the same with every installment, it gets bland very fast for me. Yes they have begun to include new elements like sea battles, but I find those games repetitive and not fresh at all.

COD is the same as well, I cant justify buying every one, but I usually end up getting one or two per generation.

And sports games. Ugh. Dont even get me started. Every new game is just a slight improvement in graphics and an updated roster. They try to show new mechanics, but I cant get past it being the same as the previous year. As a result the last sports game I bought was NHL 2002, and I had UFC for a while because it was a new type of sports game, but traded it in soon after I realized it was poorly designed.

 

[Morbi]

In real life i've been mistaken for a woman. Twice.

Is that a good thing, or a bad thing? It sounds like it would be a good thing.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Do you think girls could make it in professional football teams?

Asking a question, not making a statement or opinion on it

Well she was certainly good enough to.
But as I said she didn't get to play in High-school so she went to Soccer and she got a Scholarship for that.

 

[Fatmanonice]

Do you think girls could make it in professional football teams?

Asking a question, not making a statement or opinion on it

Yes but I think American football is stupid anyways. I don't see the sense in playing a sport where most people's bodies are BTFO by it by the time they reach their 30's.

 

[MSmariosonic]

Is that a good thing, or a bad thing? It sounds like it would be a good thing.

I'm male. It's hard to be called a female when ya have a ****.

EDIT: This didn't sound the way it was intended to.

 

[Kenith]

Skill in video games is independent of sex/gender. A girl can be as or even more skilled as a man.

Just saying.

I completely agree.

Skill in video games is based not on strength, but on precision, dexterity, timing, and quick thinking.
None of those skills are exclusive to any group, they are Rated E for Everyone.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Yes but I think American football is stupid anyways. I don't see the sense in playing a sport where most people's bodies are BTFO by it by the time they reach their 30's.

You could say the same about any sport.
Cross Country and track destroys your knees and ankles, Softball/Baseball Destroys your shoulder, and Soccer is shins.
And Rugby is also 10x worse than American Football.
Edit: as in direct content not in personal preference.

 

[TeenGirlSquad]

It's hard to be called a female when ya have a ****.

Not really.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

So there are many woman who could be tackled by a 300 lb man an be alright?

 

[MSmariosonic]

I was once being called a sexist for saying that the average man is smarter than the average woman.

 

[Sehnsucht]

So there are many woman who could be tackled by a 300 lb man an be alright?

I hear @ TeenGirlSquad is going to try out for the NFL soon.

 

[Moon Monkey]

I am not sure, but are you insinuating that precedent is not relevant, objectively?

Let me try to answer that with an example:

Person A: Hector would be a pretty good character.
Person B: Hector!? He hasn't appeared in a Fire Emblem game in over 12 years. Lucina has a way better chance because Awakening sold better and she is more relevant.

While what Person B said maybe true, I think that shouldn't be the basis to count out Hector. If he adds an unique playstyle he can be just as viable as Lucina.

TL; DR:
Entertaining Playstyle > Relevancy & Sales

Secondly, any character has the capacity to be fun; furthermore, "fun" is subjective.
Lastly, I am not done with speculation until the game comes out. I can feel your pain though.

True, and that definition of "fun" is defined by Sakurai as he is the creator.
More power too you, not saying anything is wrong with that. But personally, to me, it's all one giant hamster wheel.

 

[Morbi]

I completely agree.

Skill in video games is based not on strength, but on precision, dexterity, timing, and quick thinking.
None of those skills are exclusive to any group, they are Rated E for Everyone.

I would argue that other animals; for instance, a cat, would have a difficult time despite the "E for Everyone" rating.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Let me try to answer that with an example:
Person A: Hector would be a pretty good character.
Person B: Hector!? He hasn't appeared in a Fire Emblem game in over 12 years. Lucina has a way better chance because Awakening sold better and she is more relevant.
While what Person B said maybe true, I think that shouldn't be the basis to count out Hector. If he adds an unique playstyle he can be just as viable as Lucina.
TL; DR:
Playstyle > Relevancy & Sales

True, and that definition of "fun" is defined by Sakurai as he is the creator.
More power too you, not saying anything is wrong with that. But personally, to me, it's all one giant hamster wheel.

...When you said Hector I thought for a second you meant Prof Hector from Gyromite

...

He was one of my wanted characters for a while, in control of ROB

 

[Kenith]

I was once being called a sexist for saying that the average man is smarter than the average woman.

Well, if you didn't have any evidence for that and just said it based on your own opinions, they weren't exactly wrong.
Especially because it's pretty hard to gauge intelligence accurately.

 

[TeenGirlSquad]

I was once being called a sexist for saying that the average man is smarter than the average woman.

So you were called a sexist for making a sexist statement?

Why is football the favored sport anyway? Why do we live in a society where sports like football are favored over sports like tennis and bowling? I mean, they're all equally boring.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

So there are many woman who could be tackled by a 300 lb man an be alright?

Well, yeah.
Of course they could get hurt but as I said from experience the girl on our team was never injured.
She also got tackled by a 200 pound teenager if that helps my case.