Smash 4 Social Thread 3.0

[Knuckles the Knuckles]

They caught his face at a weird frame, that's all.

Yep, Lil Mac actually looks pretty cool normally. Reminds me of Sheik's broken fingers...

 

[praline]

They need more clones. Dixie of Diddy,


....uh, that's the only one I could think of.

Ridley for Chrizard. Since we're clearly listing characters that couldn't be a clone of another.

 

[Knight Dude]

Ridley for Chrizard. Since we're clearly listing characters that couldn't be a clone of another.

Too bad Ridley can't learn Rock Smash.

But at least he has the Dragon Dance and Dragon Claw setup.

 

[Ta1nted_4ngel29]

Oh why does 3DS MAX take forever to download? (rhetorical question) :/

EDIT: on an unrelated note, I'll give out 150 000 bells to the person who can get me the entire Rococo series in AC: New Leaf. PM me if interested.

 

[Cap'nChreest]

Suteppu 2 ni ue itazuradesu. Kore wa iraira natte iru. Watashi wa nani o subeki ka wakaranai. to. Ima, watashinidekirukoto wa subete, mazushī nihongo de tōkō wa ari

 

[Knuckles the Knuckles]

Ike is muscly like one

I dunno if that has any relevance since boxers tend to get theyr general facial area damaged regularly, moreso than medieval swordsmen.

 

[StrangeMann]

Ridley for Chrizard. Since we're clearly listing characters that couldn't be a clone of another.

Wait...
Ninka did state Charizard was getting an alt...Which means...

 

[Superyoshiom]

Suteppu 2 ni ue itazuradesu. Kore wa iraira natte iru. Watashi wa nani o subeki ka wakaranai. to. Ima, watashinidekirukoto wa subete, mazushī nihongo de tōkō wa ari

Google translate registers this as Swahili

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Too bad Ridley can't learn Rock Smash.

But at least he has the Dragon Dance and Dragon Claw setup.

Why would you teach Ridley Rock Smash even if he could learn it?

 

[Starcutter]

Black Knight as an Ike clone?

There's too many F:E characters, lol.

Maybe Galacta Knight?

 

[Cap'nChreest]

Google translate registers this as Swahili

Gūguru hon'yaku ga machigatte iru.

 

[Superyoshiom]

There's too many F:E characters, lol.

Maybe Galacta Knight?

Or Dark Meta Knight

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Or Dark Meta Knight

Isn't Dark Meta Knight just some kind of mirror image evil clone of Meta Knight

Making a character out of that would be stupid

 

[Starcutter]

Ridley for Chrizard. Since we're clearly listing characters that couldn't be a clone of another.

Wait, are you saying Dixie CAN'T be a Diddy clone?

I'm pretty sure she can be. Sure, I'd rather her be unique, but she could totally be a clone if they run out of time.

 

[Fatmanonice]

Ridley for Chrizard. Since we're clearly listing characters that couldn't be a clone of another.

I could see Dixie as a simi (see what I did there?) clone of Diddy. I could see a lot of Diddy's moves being done with her hair. Her recovery would be different, obviously, but the peanut popgun could easily be swapped out with the bubblegum gun.

I can't say that I'm surprised by Dr. Mario, Lucina, or Dark Pit because I originally predicted that they were going to be DLC clones. I also thought Bowser Jr was going to be a Bowser clone (thank god he isn't) and also predicted that Tetra (Sheik clone) and Roy (Marth clone, although Lucina has pretty much squashed his chances) were also strong DLC candidates.

 

[Superyoshiom]

Should ness get ninten alts?

 

[Starcutter]

Isn't Dark Meta Knight just some kind of mirror image evil clone of Meta Knight

Making a character out of that would be stupid

Uh, literally Dark Pit.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

There's too many F:E characters, lol.

Maybe Galacta Knight?

You're starting to remind me about that incident where I pulled up a fake Galacta Knight leak in the previous social thread.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Uh, literally Dark Pit.

and I still think it's stupid

Also Sakurai stole Dark Pit's idea from Amazing Mirror

 

[Superyoshiom]

and I still think it's stupid

Also Sakurai stole Dark Pit's idea from Amazing Mirror

At least he stole from his own game.

 

[Starcutter]

You're starting to remind me about that incident where I pulled up a fake Galacta Knight leak in the previous social thread.

that's just amazing man.


OMG LOOK A QUOTE LEAK

 

[Deleted member]

I'm really looking forward to Lucina, despite that what we know about her tells us she'll basically play like Roy.

For some reason, I hold up hope she'll have a couple more tricks to differentiate herself.

 

[Knight Dude]

Suteppu 2 ni ue itazuradesu. Kore wa iraira natte iru. Watashi wa nani o subeki ka wakaranai. to. Ima, watashinidekirukoto wa subete, mazushī nihongo de tōkō wa ari

Sorry. Can't help but thing of this.

Uh, literally Dark Pit.

Mirror and all too.

 

[Superyoshiom]

I'm really looking forward to Lucina, despite that what we know about her tells us she'll basically play like Roy.

For some reason, I hold up hope she'll have a couple more tricks to differentiate herself.

She has longer hair

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

1. I don't understand the hate clones get, especially when considering the circumstances of their inclusion.
2. I've witnessed people bashing Dr. Mario and Dark Pit, yet defending Lucina. Hypocrisy much? Methinks so.
3. Point 1 is coming from someone who mains Ganondorf and would like it if Ganondorf had a revamped moveset. Still, I don't mind his current moveset at all. He still has his trademark brutal strength and dark magic incorporated in the moveset, after all.
4. There's absolutely no reason why I'm doing this post on a numbered list format.

People don't like Dr. Mario because he's not even a different character. He's still just Mario with mostly the same moves.

People don't like Dark Pit because they assume Pit and Pittoo are 100% the same since they've never played Uprising. Poor fools.

People rightfully hate Smash Ganon because strength and darkness be damned, he still fights nothing like himself. Nevermind weapons, he doesn't even have a projectile. That and the fact that the only reaosn he hasn't changed is probably because Sakurai likes him as he is simply because "lolmahmain". Kinda makes him seem like a selfish and lazy asshat...Which wouldn't be new for him, but I digress.

Dark Pit and Lucina are actually just fine since they're very similar to the characters they're based off of, but they're still 2 entirely different people that are allowed to fight similarly to them because in light of who they are, it actually makes sense.

Well, that's how I view those two, anyway.

Spoiler: Incoming small personal rant

Also, **** Toon Link. I had no problems with Young Link because he and Melee Link were actually the same person. With Tink, they try to pass him off as "TOTALLY DIFFERENT" but he's still just a smaller, fast, cartoonish version of Link with only his aerial attacks being the big difference. That and the slow, almost anti-gravity arrows. lol

Doesn't Tink have his own moves and tools he could use for a unique moveset? But I guess that'd take too much work.

Meh. I still think he should've been cut. It's as dumb as cutting Wolf but keeping Falco when Falco is still mostly a clone while Wolf is constantly labeled as a clone even though none of his moves work even remotely the same as Fox and Falco's outside of Down-B and his Final Smash.

In all seriousness though, I don't think there's anything wrong with the concept of clones itself. It's who the clones are and the reasons behind them that's the real issue.

 

[Starcutter]

I could see Dixie as a simi (see what I did there?) clone of Diddy. I could see a lot of Diddy's moves being done with her hair. Her recovery would be different, obviously, but the peanut popgun could easily be swapped out with the bubblegum gun.

I can't say that I'm surprised by Dr. Mario, Lucina, or Dark Pit because I originally predicted that they were going to be DLC clones. I also thought Bowser Jr was going to be a Bowser clone (thank god he isn't) and also predicted that Tetra (Sheik clone) and Roy (Marth clone, although Lucina has pretty much squashed his chances) were also strong DLC candidates.

While I agree on Dixie, having Tetra as a Sheik clone is kinda ridiculous.


Pirates =/= Ninjas.

 

[Frostwraith]

It seems people's biggest problem with Dark Pit is because he looks like Pit with a different color. I'm glad I'm not one to see characters from such a superficial point of view.

Not that I care.

Anyway, something I've done in previous Smash games is to beat down every character using Ganondorf. Playing as one of the best villains in video games ever and beat the crap out of the goody characters and out-evil the other villains is just satisfying.

 

[Superyoshiom]

People don't like Dr. Mario because he's not even a different character. He's still just Mario with mostly the same moves.

People don't like Dark Pit because they assume Pit and Pittoo are 100% the same since they've never played Uprising. Poor fools.

People rightfully hate Smash Ganon because strength and darkness be damned, he still fights nothing like himself. Nevermind weapons, he doesn't even have a projectile. That and the fact that the only reaosn he hasn't changed is probably because Sakurai likes him as he is simply because "lolmahmain". Kinda makes him seem like a selfish and lazy ******...Which wouldn't be new for him, but I digress.

Dark Pit and Lucina are actually just fine since they're very similar to the characters they're based off of, but they're still 2 entirely different people that are allowed to fight similarly to them because in light of who they are, it actually makes sense.

Well, that's how I view those two, anyway.

Spoiler: Incoming small personal rant

Also, **** Toon Link. I had no problems with Young Link because he and Melee Link were actually the same person. With Tink, they try to pass him off as "TOTALLY DIFFERENT" but he's still just a smaller, fast, cartoonish version of Link with only his aerial attacks being the big difference. That and the slow, almost anti-gravity arrows. lol

Doesn't Tink have his own moves and tools he could use for a unique moveset? But I guess that'd take too much work.

Meh. I still think he should've been cut. It's as dumb as cutting Wolf but keeping Falco when Falco is still mostly a clone while Wolf is constantly labeled as a clone even though none of his moves work even remotely the same as Fox and Falco's outside of Down-B and his Final Smash.

In all seriousness though, I don't think there's anything wrong with the concept of clones itself. It's who the clones are and the reasons behind them that's the real issue.

I don't mind Pittoo or Lucina either

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I don't mind Lucina, I don't especially LIKE her

I don't think she matters at all since the game has Robin anyway

She's like filler

I don't like Dark Pit

He's just evil Pit

He can equip different weapons in the game just like Pit

Just have Pit with a Dark color, same thing

 

[Frostwraith]

Captain Falcon's moveset is created from scratch for Smash, which makes Ganondorf's moveset also a Smash original thing (except side tilt and side special which are taken from Twilight Princess).

 

[FlareHabanero]

When ever I hear that Dark Pit is an edgy version of Pit, I can't help thinking of him as "Coldsteel Pit".

Thanks a lot, now I won't get him saying "pssh...nothing personnel...kid..." out of my head.

 

[Cap'nChreest]

Watashi wa, dāku· pitto hakase Mario yaku shinken ni manzoku s-hite imasu. Watashi wa sudeni pitto o ais-hitaga, kare no kurōn wa hontōni subarashīdesu. Watashi wa sumasshu 64 de Mario o ais-hitaga, konsen no Doc ni son'nani sugurete ita. Watashi wa chōdo kantan ni manzoku s-hite iru to omoimasu.

 

[TJ-Works]

Anyway, something I've done in previous Smash games is to beat down every character using Ganondorf. Playing as one of the best villains in video games ever and beat the crap out of the goody characters and out-evil the other villains is just satisfying.

Well it's a good thing he's a fictional character and not another real world dictator.

Otherwise you may end up looking up to a horrible man.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

It seems people's biggest problem with Dark Pit is because he looks like Pit with a different color. I'm glad I'm not one to see characters from such a superficial point of view.

Not that I care.

Anyway, something I've done in previous Smash games is to beat down every character using Ganondorf. Playing as one of the best villains in video games ever and beat the crap out of the goody characters and out-evil the other villains is just satisfying.

That's pretty much the reason, yeah.

Also, let it be known that what I have an issue with is that Ganon's fighting style and animations still mirror those of Captain Falcon's.

If he were to fight with his bare hands and use darkness with moves and animations of his absolute very own, even if they're just new to Smash, I'd be perfectly okay with Ganon from a technical and development standpoint..Let it also be known, however, that I only have a problem with his moveset from a technical and development standpoint.

Gameplay wise? Ganon is one of my absolute favorite characters to play as. Especially in Project M. <3

Watashi wa, dāku· pitto hakase Mario yaku shinken ni manzoku s-hite imasu. Watashi wa sudeni pitto o ais-hitaga, kare no kurōn wa hontōni subarashīdesu. Watashi wa sumasshu 64 de Mario o ais-hitaga, konsen no Doc ni son'nani sugurete ita. Watashi wa chōdo kantan ni manzoku s-hite iru to omoimasu.

Let it be known that I understood absolutely everything you said.

...And that I absolutely HATE the anime that your current "persona" originates from.

Uuuuuuuuuuugh.

 

[Superyoshiom]

Watashi wa, dāku· pitto hakase Mario yaku shinken ni manzoku s-hite imasu. Watashi wa sudeni pitto o ais-hitaga, kare no kurōn wa hontōni subarashīdesu. Watashi wa sumasshu 64 de Mario o ais-hitaga, konsen no Doc ni son'nani sugurete ita. Watashi wa chōdo kantan ni manzoku s-hite iru to omoimasu.

Yesterday's moe was better.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Ganon doesn't represent his character from the games at all

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

I was originally planning on doing an Ice Bucket Challenge after dinner tonight, but it looks like a storm.

 

[Kenith]

Ah, another day, another extremely one-sided argument over the literal clone that is Dark Pit.


We really need new information. Or leaks. Whichever comes first.

 

[Deleted member]

She has longer hair

Great! Maybe she'll have a Willow Smith playstyle and just whip her hair back and forth!

 

[Knight Dude]

People don't like Dr. Mario because he's not even a different character. He's still just Mario with mostly the same moves.

People don't like Dark Pit because they assume Pit and Pittoo are 100% the same since they've never played Uprising. Poor fools.

People rightfully hate Smash Ganon because strength and darkness be damned, he still fights nothing like himself. Nevermind weapons, he doesn't even have a projectile. That and the fact that the only reason he hasn't changed is probably because Sakurai likes him as he is simply because "lolmahmain". Kinda makes him seem like a selfish and lazy ******...Which wouldn't be new for him, but I digress.

Dark Pit and Lucina are actually just fine since they're very similar to the characters they're based off of, but they're still 2 entirely different people that are allowed to fight similarly to them because in light of who they are, it actually makes sense.

Well, that's how I view those two, anyway.

Spoiler: Incoming small personal rant

Also, **** Toon Link. I had no problems with Young Link because he and Melee Link were actually the same person. With Tink, they try to pass him off as "TOTALLY DIFFERENT" but he's still just a smaller, fast, cartoonish version of Link with only his aerial attacks being the big difference. That and the slow, almost anti-gravity arrows. lol

Doesn't Tink have his own moves and tools he could use for a unique moveset? But I guess that'd take too much work.

Meh. I still think he should've been cut. It's as dumb as cutting Wolf but keeping Falco when Falco is still mostly a clone while Wolf is constantly labeled as a clone even though none of his moves work even remotely the same as Fox and Falco's outside of Down-B and his Final Smash.

In all seriousness though, I don't think there's anything wrong with the concept of clones itself. It's who the clones are and the reasons behind them that's the real issue.

I actually like Toon Link more. I find him a little bit more fun to use. But I did hope he'd get a couple of new moves. Like the Skull Hammer, Deku Leaf, maybe even Iron or Pegasus Boots. Maybe have one of the elemental arrows as his default.