Smash 4 Social Thread 3.0

[praline]

Just throwing some fuel to the "biased Sakurai" whinners

Palutena is better than Peach anyways.

 

[Morbi]

I played Hyrule Warriors over at the Nintendo World Store yesterday -

I don't pay attention to numeric values for game reviews (after all, what the hell is the number 8 when it comes to your feelings and experiences? Gross) but I have to tell you, it's a well made flimsy game. I don't really get the appeal of just endlessly mobbing through hordes of enemies that seem to have the weight of a ripped tissue when you slice through them - but I never played Dynasty Warriors either. Seems good for a power trip, but there's no substance there.

I agree with this sentiment; however, my sister certainly sees the appeal. She is a big fan of the "beat-em up" or "hack and slash" genre as is. I am interested as the game promotes local co-op. That is the biggest seller for me.

 

[Weeman]

I agree with this sentiment; however, my sister certainly sees the appeal. She is a big fan of the "beat-em up" or "hack and slash" genre as is. I am interested as the game promotes local co-op. That is the biggest seller for me.

I just want to destroy everyone as a top tier Ganondorf for a change

 

[Octillus]

Who the **** thinks a thrash concert would be depressive? Are they mentally challenged? Thrash metal is THE metal.

Dude I couldn't ****ing tell you. It was the early 2000s, and I think that weird group label thing from the 90s didn't break til Mean Girls came out.

I was already going to junior college, working, running the school paper and getting clobbered for fun, I didn't have time or patience for it then, and I don't now with the hipster metal.

Yep, unfortunately my laptop can't download the full version.

Then again, who cares? MARIO, SONIC, MEGA MAN AND PAC-MAN IN ONE SINGLE POSTER!!! COWABUNGA!!!

AND SHULK. YOU KNOW? SHULK.

 

[Crescendo]

So all the reviews of Hyrule Warriors have come out today, with a Metacritic average of 73%.

I want to play it, but I might hold off for later, probably for Christmas. I've already bought 4 LoZ games from the Zelda Sale on eShop that I need to finish a couple of 'em first. >.<

(I.e. Legend of Zelda NES, A Link to the Past, Link's Awakening DX, and Minish Cap.)

Anyone gonna buy it?

I already have it.
It mostly depends on how you like musou games. As a huge DW fanboy, it satisfies my need for power trips, and I think they really did a good job on exploiting the Zelda universe for the various movesets (turning the Fire Rod into a giant triforce cannon is oddly satisfying). But it's technically wonky (30fps with frame drops when the screen is filled) and suffers from the same syndrome most first crossover musous have : it's lacking in diversity both in characters and in movesets (Ganondorf not having the Trident as a secondary weapon really bothers me).

If you're not familiar with the genre, I'd suggest waiting until you find it as a cheaper price, as it's still a very satisfying game to pass time. And yeah, go finish those games first, they're all good.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Get your pathetic straw-man fallacy out of my face; that was not my argument in the slightest. My argument was that those pretentious 3DS owners that vehemently asserted that the 3DS version would not influence the Wii U version were blatantly incorrect.

Everybody knew this. Sakurai said it before. Constantly whining about it does not matter.

And drop the tone. You're being nearly inflammatory towards me. I didn't mean to strawman you, but we are sick to death of people thinking that 3DS wasn't extremely special here. The Wii U version was never going to have higher priority. I don't know why people just can't accept that. :|

 

[Octillus]

I agree with this sentiment; however, my sister certainly sees the appeal. She is a big fan of the "beat-em up" or "hack and slash" genre as is. I am interested as the game promotes local co-op. That is the biggest seller for me.

And for that reason, I'm sure it will appeal to people. I don't exactly have a lot of love for Koei Tecmo, so maybe I'll pick it up if it ever ends up in the bargain bin? It's not a completely first party title so it MAY happen.

 

[Digital Hazard]

AND SHULK. YOU KNOW? SHULK.

Shulk is first party character, as much as the Xenoblade universe couldn't make sense in it they could put him in the Mario Kart DLC with no problem; now getting those four icons from four different companies together, I'm sure our inner childs cried of joy.

 

[Octillus]

Everybody knew this. Sakurai said it before. Constantly whining about it does not matter.

And drop the tone. You're being nearly inflammatory towards me. I didn't mean to strawman you, but we are sick to death of people thinking that 3DS wasn't extremely special here. The Wii U version was never going to have higher priority. I don't know why people just can't accept that. :|

Then why the hell would they draft like half of Namco to get this **** done in a timely fashion?

I also feel like no one is understanding that the Wii U is trying to basically kick and claw its way into being not a massive loss for Nintendo - Smash is a big deal for that. No one knows jack **** about the Wii U version, so all of the desk chair critiquing really can wait until we have a better idea. If it ends up being just a weird smash box with less modes than Melee, then go ahead, criticize it all you want - but remember, they're rolling out Amiibo, and they're hoping to finally have a good holiday season with the Wii U, and their lead sku being Smash.

Who cares about the characters, I want to see the content!

Shulk is first party character, as much as the Xenoblade universe couldn't make sense in it they could put him in the Mario Kart DLC with no problem; now getting those four icons from four different companies together, I'm sure our inner childs cried of joy.

 

[kylexv]

My mains (well, some of them):

 

[DraginHikari]

@ DraginHikari confirmed for Happy Happyist.

I'd make a poor happy happist cultist. Pretty sure what I do barely qualifies as a emotion none the less happiness.

 

[Auramaniji]

Everybody knew this. Sakurai said it before. Constantly whining about it does not matter.

And drop the tone. You're being nearly inflammatory towards me. I didn't mean to strawman you, but we are sick to death of people thinking that 3DS wasn't extremely special here. The Wii U version was never going to have higher priority. I don't know why people just can't accept that. :|

I had the thought that maybe the Wii U could have bigger priority because so many games on the go are usually downgraded.
(Ex: A portable game having less cars than it's usual full selection on a powerful home console)

 

[Weeman]

Mains, mains mains everywhere, i'll just play Wario exclusively and beat you all with him.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

It took me a while to find the site, but here's my picks

 

[Morbi]

Everybody knew this. Sakurai said it before. Constantly whining about it does not matter.

And drop the tone. You're being nearly inflammatory towards me. I didn't mean to strawman you, but we are sick to death of people thinking that 3DS wasn't extremely special here. The Wii U version was never going to have higher priority. I don't know why people just can't accept that. :|

Sakurai stated this before, yet it was blatantly disregarded, I am not sure if you have ever had the displeasure of entering one of those "why does everyone hate the 3DS" threads, but trust me on this one, they are still archived if you do not believe me. It is not enough for Sakurai to assert something. Look at Dr. Mario and Dark Pit. He quite clearly implied that they would not be costumes in one of his interviews, yet we are all aware of the common perspective. "Dr. Mario is just Mario in a doctor's costume! Why would they add him over Mewtwo?"

"Nearly" inflammatory is not inflammatory. That tells me that you are personally offended by the tone, yet there is nothing objectively wrong with the tone. I apologize, but I was not overly fond of your tone either.

I can accept it. I have no problem with it.

 

[Soul.]

Mains, mains mains everywhere, i'll just play Wario exclusively and beat you all with him.

lol You're going to use Wario?

 

[Weeman]

It took me a while to find the site, but here's my picks

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Jeez man, you might as well main everyone

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Then why the hell would they draft like half of Namco to get this **** done in a timely fashion?

I also feel like no one is understanding that the Wii U is trying to basically kick and claw its way into being not a massive loss for Nintendo - Smash is a big deal for that. No one knows jack **** about the Wii U version, so all of the desk chair critiquing really can wait until we have a better idea. If it ends up being just a weird smash box with less modes than Melee, then go ahead, criticize it all you want - but remember, they're rolling out Amiibo, and they're hoping to finally have a good holiday season with the Wii U, and their lead sku being Smash.

Who cares about the characters, I want to see the content!

You can blame Sakurai for refusing to unveil more Wii U stuff. I hate it too, trust me I do.

Regardless, though. They had a due date. So of course they got the 3DS version done faster. Remember, if he had to take more time on the IC's, note that we'd be waiting a year or more just to get the game. That wasn't something they wanted to happen. It's just business sense. Don't make people wait forever. Many love how the game plays, so they only delayed it once. Many felt Brawl wasn't worth the double delay, but to each their own.(that's more SSE's fault for taking away other content, though)

I had the thought that maybe the Wii U could have bigger priority because so many games on the go are usually downgraded.
(Ex: A portable game having less cars than it's usual full selection on a powerful home console)

Well, in this case, the 3DS isn't a full downgrade. At least it will have the same roster. That's the only thing he didn't want changed. That's the key priority. To be fair, SSB is sold namely on the characters, so this is a logical decision for this series. That's the entire reason it was not Dragon King: The Fighting Game, to properly sell it.

Sakurai stated this before, yet it was blatantly disregarded, I am not sure if you have ever had the displeasure of entering one of those "why does everyone hate the 3DS" threads, but trust me on this one, they are still archived if you do not believe me. It is not enough for Sakurai to assert something. Look at Dr. Mario and Dark Pit. He quite clearly implied that they would not be costumes in one of his interviews, yet we are all aware of the common perspective. "Dr. Mario is just Mario in a doctor's costume! Why would they add him over Mewtwo?"

"Nearly" inflammatory is not inflammatory. That tells me that you are personally offended by the tone, yet there is nothing objectively wrong with the tone. I apologize, but I was not overly fond of your tone either.

I can accept it. I have no problem with it.

I have. I get ya. And all tone is subjective, but despite the strawmanning(was on accident, I admit), I felt it could go badly with that wording. Thank you for trying to keep it peaceful regardless. Anyway, I wish people would stop, or at least vent once, then move on. More the latter than the former.

 

[Morbi]

lol You're going to use Wario?

Not only is he going to use Wario, but apparently, he is going to use Wario exclusively (and beat everyone).

 

[Fatmanonice]

I always find it weird when people list 5-6 characters as their mains and then the rest of the cast as their secondaries. You all keep using those words...I don't think they mean what you all think they mean...

 

[Soul.]

Not only is he going to use Wario, but apparently, he is going to use Wario exclusively (and beat everyone).

Is that so. Okay then, we should "lol" the moment there is a surprise Wario Waft K.O.

 

[VKatana]

I've noticed a trend when people talk about the roster, what they really mean is: "This game and everyone who is going to play it competitively sucks because it's not exactly what I wanted." This game is going to be pimp guys, just wait and see. Even if Isaac or Mewtwo or *sob* IC aren't in it.

 

[Weeman]

lol You're going to use Wario?

You won't??!!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?!

 

[Soul.]

You won't??!!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?!

theres nothing wrong with me
im using this thing remember:

 

[TewnLeenk]

Well f***, everybody else is doing it. Why not.

Characters I'm going to play as.

 

[FlareHabanero]

I always find it weird when people list 5-6 characters as their mains and then the rest of the cast as their secondaries. You all keep using those words...I don't think they mean what you all think they mean...

I think "characters I want to try" or "character like to play as" would be more appropriate.

A main is basically the go-to character, not a whole posse.

 

[TJ-Works]

I did it before it was cool. *cough*Signaturebelow*cough*

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

I always find it weird when people list 5-6 characters as their mains and then the rest of the cast as their secondaries. You all keep using those words...I don't think they mean what you all think they mean...

A thousand likes for you.

 

[VKatana]

Does anyone else think there's a possibility that pretty much every character has the potential to be S or A tier if custom moves are allowed at tourneys? It seems pretty much every character will have a custom moveset which makes them S/A tier. If that's true, then matchups and playstyle will be all that matter, which is going to make it incredibly hard to pick a main.

 

[Cap'nChreest]

I automatically assume that people who "main" more than 2-3 characters suck with all of their mains.

 

[Morbi]

I always find it weird when people list 5-6 characters as their mains and then the rest of the cast as their secondaries. You all keep using those words...I don't think they mean what you all think they mean...

Okay; fine, you asked for it. Here are my presumed characters for Smash 4, this list is at the current time and I have not yet played the final retail version of the game; however, based on empirical knowledge (and prior experience), I believe the list is fairly accurate.

Ganon is my main.
Link is my secondary.
Zelda is my tertiary.
Lucina is my quaternary.
Dr. Mario is my quinary.
Dark Pit is my senary.
Jigglypuff is my octonary.

I am not sure about my nonary, perhaps Charizard or Zero-Suit Samus, I always wanted to play them more frequently; however, they had unfavorable mechanics attached to them.

It obviously depends on their changes which I have not been able to completely discern. A good potential denary would probably entail using a newcomer, such as Robin, Shulk, or Duck Hunt.

Anyways, we we ran into a problem. I am using these words, but I am not sure if they mean what I think they mean.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

I have 18 "Mains" in Brawl.

I pretty much suck with nearly everyone else who isn't on that list.

 

[Bedoop]

You won't??!!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?!

The only problem with your statement is that you need to unlock Wario, so it is virtually impossible to play nobody but Wario.

 

[Weeman]

Ganon is my main.

Then i'll look forward to cross swor... i mean evil fists with you!

 

[Octillus]

Live by dk die by dk

 

[Morbi]

The only problem with your statement is that you need to unlock Wario, so it is virtually impossible to play nobody but Wario.

Mario has a Wario palette. Close enough.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

In melee I only used Sheik and Samus

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

Well, this is happening.

Anyone seen the new Wii U render?

Mario, Sonic and Mega Man together on the main render for a Smash game.

This is all kinds of awesome. <3

(**** Pac-Man)

 

[Cap'nChreest]

Live by dk die by dk

Well if he's similar to how he was in past iterations of Smash I'm pretty sure it will be die by DK.

 

[Weeman]

I Pretty much want to use everyone but the Miis, like even if i have a go to character (Wario), i'm legitimately excited to use everyone... except the Miis.