Smash 4 - Running & Walking Speed Rankings

[Admiral Pit]

Palutena having good movement speed gets my approval. <3

 

[ScubaGoomba]

Would it be possible to see these side-by-side? It could be nice to compare walking and running speeds, such as seeing if Lucina's walk is faster than Robin's run and by what degree.

 

[Nabbitnator]

I wonder how this would change assuming everyone is Fox trotting. Peach's speed is just as fast as Greninja's when she fox trots. It's a huge boost.

That's wonderful to know now.

 

[The_SuperiorTaste]

I wonder how the speeds are for craq? walking (don't know the correct spelling for this term). Palutena's is really good if you get the timing down.

 

[lRasha]

Now that the Wii U is out I'm guessing we can find out stat-wise who's faster and slower.

 

[KlefkiHolder]

Hey one of the Wii U tips says Robin is the slowest walker, followed by Puff, then Ganon

 

[KuroganeHammer]

i guess they nerfed the walking speed then? I'll have a look

 

[KuroganeHammer]

It's the same in 1.0.4 on 3DS.

So maybe it's a Wii U thing?

 

[KlefkiHolder]

It's the same in 1.0.4 on 3DS.

So maybe it's a Wii U thing?

Maybe. Or the tip is just wrong

I don't have the game yet (some shipping error that pushed the arrival from yesterday to Monday) but I saw it on a video. Iirc it said something like "Robin has the #1 slowest walking speed, with Jigglypuff at #2, and Ganondorf at #3. However, Robin has great ranged projectiles to make up for that!"

Can someone with access to the game check?

 

[KuroganeHammer]

The game isn't out here yet so I can't unfortunately.

 

[KlefkiHolder]

edit: disregard

 

[KlefkiHolder]

Alright, so I tested it in training on 1/4 speed on Wrecking Crew and I can conclude that the tip is WRONG.

Robin is def walking faster than Jiggly. Maybe this was true at some point during dev and the localization team messed up?

But yeah, Robin is not the slowest walker.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

maybe it meant runner?

 

[KlefkiHolder]

Maybe?
I'll have to find the video or fin it in the tips section.

However, I seem to be locked into fighter-specfic tips for some reason...

 

[KlefkiHolder]

alright, just tested running. Same conditions, wrecking crew, 1/4 speed, rolled all the way to the edge first.

I have no clue if one is faster than the other. It might be another scenario where the differwnce is so small we can't tell. If I had to guess I would say Jiggs is faster but the difference is so small it doesn't even matter.

Hell, I wouldn't even be surprised if they were the same.

EDIT:

On second look, Jiggs is faster. Was actually the easiest tie to determine.

Also looking at the ties on your list I'm getting:

Running - Pikachu barely over Yoshi, Marth over Bowser barely, GnW > Shulk > Pacman (very close here), Luigi = Wario > Ike > Kirby (once again, very small differences), and Falco > Ness > Olimar

Walking: really hard to test. Will do this later

 

[ChronoPenguin]

Speed shulk is fastest walker.

 

[KlefkiHolder]

http://imgur.com/6eT4DAU

Yeah I think this tip is just wrong

Sorry for poor picture quality. The TV my Wii U is on right now has some weird discoloration issue. Its usually on another TV tho.

 

[Teshie U]

Many of the tips are wrong or rather "outdated" because they neglect to edit/remove the tips when they rebalance characters or fix bugs.

There is a tip that mentions filling GnW bucket in 1 hit, but that has been nerfed.

Its possible Robin was originally designed to have the slowest ground speed, but didn't feel very good moving so slow so she got a buff. Or hell, maybe puff and Ganondorf were originally faster.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

http://imgur.com/6eT4DAU

Yeah I think this tip is just wrong

Sorry for poor picture quality. The TV my Wii U is on right now has some weird discoloration issue. Its usually on another TV tho.

For future reference, you could always upload the screenshot onto the internet by going to your Wii U's internet browser, and heading to an image hosting site.

 

[KlefkiHolder]

For future reference, you could always upload the screenshot onto the internet by going to your Wii U's internet browser, and heading to an image hosting site.

Oh I didn't know about that. Thanks.

Still in this scenario its just quicker to do it all on my phone, but for other things I will definitely do that. Thanks again

 

[Deleted member]

I saw an in-game tip that said Fox has the fastest walking speed. The in-game tips are wrong on a lot of things, though, so it wouldn't be that surprising if it were wrong.

 

[Deleted member]

I saw an in-game tip that said Fox has the fastest walking speed. The in-game tips are wrong on a lot of things, though, so it wouldn't be that surprising if it were wrong.

Really? I thought that tip said Marth/Lucina were tied for first followed by Fox.

 

[Deleted member]

Really? I thought that tip said Marth/Lucina were tied for first followed by Fox.

I saw it just the other day and am 99% sure it said Fox has the fastest walking speed. It's too bad there isn't a way to search in-game for tips by characters (and stages and other stuff) so we could check on this.

 

[Deleted member]

I saw it just the other day and am 99% sure it said Fox has the fastest walking speed. It's too bad there isn't a way to search in-game for tips by characters (and stages and other stuff) so we could check on this.

I'm probably wrong. I just remember a tip that said Marth and Lucina were tied for first for something.

 

[KlefkiHolder]

I saw it just the other day and am 99% sure it said Fox has the fastest walking speed. It's too bad there isn't a way to search in-game for tips by characters (and stages and other stuff) so we could check on this.

It says Marth/Lucina are #1, Fox is #3.

I am 100% certain here.

 

[LimitCrown]

Some attacks like Ness's PK Flash can still completely charge Oil Panic when used only once.

 

[adom4]

Is there any data about air speed rankings somewhere?

 

[KuroganeHammer]

Is there any data about air speed rankings somewhere?

noep, I'm meant to do that actually, thanks for the reminder!

 

[Lavani]

Sonic > Lightweight Palutena > Monado Speed

Unsure if you cared to rank these together or not, but with the stances by themselves at the bottom I'd been assuming they were all just faster than Sonic.

Still don't have either of Shulk's neutralB customs, unfortunately.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

I remember testing these and seeing Palutena > Sonic, I will retest on the Wii U when I get the chance (never).

 

[san.]

It's been a while since I last asked this, but since there seems to be less unknown data, is it confirmed that initial dash speed is tied to running speed this time around? In Brawl, the rankings were different.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

I don't think they're tied to run or walk speed.

 

[Masonomace]

Sonic > Lightweight Palutena > Monado Speed

Unsure if you cared to rank these together or not, but with the stances by themselves at the bottom I'd been assuming they were all just faster than Sonic.

Still don't have either of Shulk's neutralB customs, unfortunately.

I have all the Monado Art Customs & did a side-by-side running speed comparison in Training Mode at 1/4x speed with Decisive Speed Shulk, Hyper Speed Shulk, Palutena's Lightweight, & Sonic. In order:

1. Sonic
2. Hyper Speed Shulk
3. Decisive Speed Shulk
4. Lightweight Palutena
5. Speed Shulk
6. Captain Falcon

Decisive Speed Shulk & Lightweight Palutena were very close from start to finish, while Sonic vs Hyper Speed Shulk is a close one too, but alas Sonic is the fastest running thing alive.
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EDIT: It feels redundant to note, but I tested all of the Shield stances & confirmed they're all slower than Jigglypuff. Decisive Shield & regular Shield have the same running speed & walking speed to my eyes & ears, but Hyper Shield by far has the slowest running & walking speed.

Spoiler: Debuffs Running speed

Rank | Character
49 - 50 | 盾 (Shield)
49 - 50 | Decisive 盾 (Shield)
51 | Hyper 盾 (Shield)

 

[ChronoPenguin]

If you have the time since @ Masonomace could you confirm a walking speed difference between Hyper, Dec, and Regular?
Regulars already the fastest walker, but might as well put down if they have the same walking speed or not.

 

[Masonomace]

If you have the time since @ Masonomace could you confirm a walking speed difference between Hyper, Dec, and Regular?
Regulars already the fastest walker, but might as well put down if they have the same walking speed or not.

I thought Lightweight Palutena was a faster walker than Speed Shulk. Anyhow, there is a speed difference between the 3, & it's Hyper > Decisive > Regular.

 

[divade]

For standard dash and run, Coloseum or elden would be perfect, You'll need a custom stage to get the most accurate DI differences. For falling speed I think the following custom stage idea would be best:

up to eight elevator platforms in sync, characters step on them at the top, and the elevators lower characters onto springs, which will simultaneously give equal height. (Pause frequently to see who lands when.)

 

[SuperNintendoKid]

I've been testing the Mii Fighters speed. I basically put them at the most default size possible so that they are not big or small, fat or skinny, so this is as accurate as I possibly can test, although this is by looking at it so there is no specifics to this test, so here it is:

Mii Brawler is pretty much the same speed as the Wii Fit Trainer. (slightly, and I mean slightly faster.)

Mii Swordfighter is pretty much the same speed as Falco, Ness and Olimar.

Mii Gunner is is barely faster than Zelda but barely slower than Dr. Mario.

I will not do the other sizes for the Miis, someone else can do it.

 

[Masonomace]

I've been testing the Mii Fighters speed. I basically put them at the most default size possible so that they are not big or small, fat or skinny, so this is as accurate as I possibly can test, although this is by looking at it so there is no specifics to this test, so here it is:

Mii Brawler is pretty much the same speed as the Wii Fit Trainer. (slightly, and I mean slightly faster.)

Mii Swordfighter is pretty much the same speed as Falco, Ness and Olimar.

Mii Gunner is is barely faster than Zelda but barely slower than Dr. Mario.

I will not do the other sizes for the Miis, someone else can do it.

I dig this. I got curious & did side-by-side comparisons for those characters in 1/4x speed (Hold L) & 1.5x speed:

Running speed
Mii Brawler < Wii Fit Trainer
Mii Swordfighter < Falco
Mii Swordfighter < Ness
Mii Swordfighter < Olimar
Mii Gunner < Zelda
Mii Gunner < Dr. Mario

Walking speed
Mii Brawler < Wii Fit Trainer
Mii Swordfighter < Falco
Mii Swordfighter > Ness
Mii Swordfighter > Olimar
Mii Gunner > Zelda
Mii Gunner > Dr. Mario

 

[Toomai]

Hello dudes. Have some numbers.

ID|Char|Walk Min|Walk Accel|Walk Max|Traction|Dash Init|Dash Accel?|Dash Deccel?|Run Speed
0|Mii Brawler|0.1|0.1|1.15|0.045|1.6|0.0998|0.04|1.72
1|Mii Swordfighter|0.2|0.1|1.188|0.064|1.3|0.1197|0.04|1.5
2|Mii Gunner|0.1|0.1|1.05|0.045|1.6|0.0998|0.04|1.3
3|Mario|0.1|0.1|1.1|0.045|1.6|0.0998|0.04|1.6
4|Donkey Kong|0.1|0.1|1.3|0.0529|1.6|0.0667|0.04|1.7031
5|Link|0.2|0.1|1.188|0.064|1.3|0.1197|0.04|1.3944
6|Samus|0.3|0.1|1.0615|0.0585|1.86|0.12|0.04|1.504
7|Yoshi|0.16|0.1|1.15|0.0426|1.33|0.096|0.04|1.86
8|Kirby|0.16|0.1|0.93|0.0493|1.5|0.0954|0.04|1.5
9|Fox|0.2|0.1|1.45|0.06|2.4|0.1111|0.04|2.184
10|Pikachu|0.15|0.1|1.24|0.0596|1.8|0.0912|0.04|1.85325
11|Luigi|0.1|0.1|1.08|0.024|1.28|0.0786|0.04|1.5
12|Captain Falcon|0.15|0.1|0.94|0.05|1.7|0.06|0.1|2.32
13|Ness|0.08|0.1|0.8635|0.0546|1.3|0.0651|0.04|1.46265
14|Peach|0.2|0.1|0.86|0.068|1.5|0.1181|0.04|1.4175
15|Bowser|0.03|0.05|0.858|0.0577|1|0.0648|0.04|1.792
16|Zelda|0.2|0.1|0.87|0.054|1.6|0.1175|0.04|1.3
17|Sheik|0.2|0.1|1.4|0.06|1.7|0.1143|0.04|2.016
18|Marth|0.18|0|1.5|0.055|1.5|0.082|0.01|1.785
19|Mr. Game & Watch|0.1|0.1|1.1242|0.06|1.5|0.0823|0.04|1.5264
20|Ganondorf|0.08|0.03|0.73|0.068|1.3|0.0963|0.02|1.218
21|Falco|0.2|0.1|1.28|0.065|1.9|0.112|0.04|1.472
22|Wario|0.07|0.1|0.847|0.07|1.3|0.0954|0.04|1.5
23|Meta Knight|0.16|0.1|1.18|0.055|1.75|0.0948|0.04|1.9
24|Pit|0.2|0.1|1.199|0.0505|1.5|0.1134|0.04|1.66215
25|Zero Suit Samus|0.1|0.1|1.4|0.07|1.7|0.0942|0.04|2.1
26|Olimar|0.085|0.1|0.9|0.06|1.4|0.0872|0.04|1.47
27|Diddy Kong|0.1|0.1|1.25|0.0484|1.7|0.15|0.04|1.824
28|King Dedede|0.15|0|0.98|0.0484|1.4|0.0858|0.01|1.36
29|Ike|0.15|0|0.869|0.044|1.5|0.0724|0.01|1.5
30|Lucario|0.2|0.1|1|0.0736|1.8|0.15|0.04|1.4847
31|R.O.B.|0.2|0.1|1.122|0.06|1.3|0.1128|0.04|1.568
32|Toon Link|0.1|0.1|1.2265|0.0547|1.5|0.0998|0.04|1.7325
33|Charizard|0.12|0|1.2|0.04|1|0.0963|0.015|2
34|Sonic|0.1|0.1|1.375|0.06|1.5|0.15|0.04|3.5
35|Jigglypuff|0.16|0.1|0.7|0.0718|1.4|0.0829|0.04|1.155
36|Dr. Mario|0.1|0.1|1.1|0.045|1.6|0.0998|0.04|1.6
37|Lucina|0.18|0|1.5|0.055|1.5|0.082|0.01|1.785
38|Dark Pit|0.2|0.1|1.199|0.0505|1.5|0.1134|0.04|1.66215
39|Rosalina|0.2|0.1|1.0835|0.068|1.5|0.1181|0.04|1.632
40|Wii Fit Trainer|0.1|0.1|1.166|0.06|1.5|0.0998|0.04|1.696
41|Little Mac|0.15|0.1|1.32|0.07|2.05|0.1618|0.02|2.24
42|Villager|0.1|0.1|1.04|0.06|1.5|0.0998|0.04|1.27
43|Palutena|0.2|0.1|1.21|0.068|1.5|0.1181|0.04|1.888
44|Robin|0.18|0|0.891|0.055|1.5|0.082|0.01|1.15
45|Duck Hunt|0.1|0.1|1.155|0.045|1.55|0.0998|0.04|1.63
46|Bowser Jr.|0.1|0.1|0.88|0.045|1.6|0.0998|0.04|1.424
47|Shulk|0.15|0|1.1|0.044|1.5|0.0724|0.01|1.52
48|Greninja|0.1|0.1|1.43|0.045|1.6|0.12|0.05|2.08
49|Pac-Man|0.1|0.1|1.045|0.045|1.6|0.0998|0.04|1.52
50|Mega Man|0.1|0.1|1.078|0.06|1.5|0.0998|0.04|1.456
51|Giga Bowser|0.05|0.05|1.5|0.067|1.9|0.12|0.05|2
52|Wario-Man|0.07|0.1|1.3|0.06|1.3|0.0998|0.04|3.5
53|Giga Mac|0.15|0.1|1.584|0.07|2.05|0.1618|0.06|2.8
54|Mega Lucario|0.2|0.1|1|0.0736|1.8|0.15|0.04|1.4847
55|???|0.1|0.1|1.15|0.045|1.6|0.1|0.04|1.72
56|???|0.2|0.1|1.19|0.064|1.3|0.12|0.04|1.5
57|???|0.1|0.1|1.05|0.045|1.6|0.1|0.04|1.35

 

[KuroganeHammer]

better than sex

thanks