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Smash 4 - Running & Walking Speed Rankings
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Lavani
Indigo Destiny
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Reported for double posting 
Dr. Mario already had separate multipliers placed on his damage (damage ingame is something like x1.12 what's shown in MasterCore for him) so it wouldn't surprise me if he had them applied to his movement speeds as well.
Dr. Mario already had separate multipliers placed on his damage (damage ingame is something like x1.12 what's shown in MasterCore for him) so it wouldn't surprise me if he had them applied to his movement speeds as well.
That's what I thought. I remember his mastercore values being WEIRD.
1.6 coded numbers and slower than 1.36 normally, would make the multiplier somewhere between 0.82 to 0.84.
1.6 coded numbers and slower than 1.36 normally, would make the multiplier somewhere between 0.82 to 0.84.
kid craft 24/sonic master
Smash Lord
i'm surprised and a bit disappointed that the dev team decided to make Mega Man walk that slow. I mean given that his Ftilt relies on him moving at walk speed you would think they would've at least made his walk speed close to mario's.
TriTails
Smash Lord
Come on, it's already fine. You don't want a battle robot chase you around with Sonic speed while also attacking at the same time.
(Honestly, having an F-tilt that moves is really great already)
M
+9999999999
They're already tied so it's kind of irrelevant but the game outright states Robin has the slowest run speed, while Jiggs is #2..
Thank you.
Yes, the op needs updating but I'm a biT busy atm with frame data + website etc, but thanks.
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are you guys gonna do Mewtwo's running speed? Is this accurate? Smash wiki claims he is as fast as palutena. Doesn't feeel like it to me
http://supersmashbros.wikia.com/wiki/Dashing
http://supersmashbros.wikia.com/wiki/Dashing
Luigi player
Smash Master
How about some speed acceleration ranking ^_^
Mewtwo has a slow walk speed and Marth a really fast one, but walking around short distances as Mewtwo feels a LOT faster and smoother than with Marth. After switching back to Marth from using a lot of Mewtwo I even thought Marths walkspeed was nerfed... just cuz Mewtwo moves around much quicker.
I know it's probably not easy to do, just feel like this is also important and totally gets lost with just a maxspeed ranking.
Mewtwo has a slow walk speed and Marth a really fast one, but walking around short distances as Mewtwo feels a LOT faster and smoother than with Marth. After switching back to Marth from using a lot of Mewtwo I even thought Marths walkspeed was nerfed... just cuz Mewtwo moves around much quicker.
I know it's probably not easy to do, just feel like this is also important and totally gets lost with just a maxspeed ranking.
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Dark Phazon
Smash Hero
Is there a chart to fall speed can some one link me plz
Dark Phazon
Smash Hero
Thank u bro (3
Dark Phazon
Smash Hero
PS: Wow.....is there anything DDD cant do....
erico9001
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Is there any way to get data values for Shulk's custom arts yet?
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Ness
Trifroze
all is cheese, all is jank
Couldn't find initial dash lengths so here they are (in frames):
8:
Mr. Game & Watch
Samus
Sheik
10:
Bowser Jr
Charizard
Diddy Kong
Duck Hunt Duo
Greninja
Fox
Ike
King Dedede
Lucario
Lucas
Luigi
Mario
Mega Man
Mewtwo
Dr. Mario
Olimar
Pac-Man
Palutena
R.O.B.
Ryu
Shulk
Sonic
11:
Falco
12:
Kirby
Link
Meta Knight
Pit
Dark Pit
Toon Link
Wario
Zero Suit Samus
13:
Bowser
Jigglypuff
Ness
Pikachu
Villager
14:
Yoshi
15:
Captain Falcon
Donkey Kong
Ganondorf
Little Mac
Peach
Rosalina & Luma
Wii Fit Trainer
Zelda
16:
Marth
Lucina
Robin
Roy
8:
Mr. Game & Watch
Samus
Sheik
10:
Bowser Jr
Charizard
Diddy Kong
Duck Hunt Duo
Greninja
Fox
Ike
King Dedede
Lucario
Lucas
Luigi
Mario
Mega Man
Mewtwo
Dr. Mario
Olimar
Pac-Man
Palutena
R.O.B.
Ryu
Shulk
Sonic
11:
Falco
12:
Kirby
Link
Meta Knight
Pit
Dark Pit
Toon Link
Wario
Zero Suit Samus
13:
Bowser
Jigglypuff
Ness
Pikachu
Villager
14:
Yoshi
15:
Captain Falcon
Donkey Kong
Ganondorf
Little Mac
Peach
Rosalina & Luma
Wii Fit Trainer
Zelda
16:
Marth
Lucina
Robin
Roy
Kofu
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Is this how long it takes to transition from the dash animation to the run animation or something else? Game & Watch makes good use of foxtrotting but I don't know if that's because his initial dash length is short or because the full dash animation is quick (possibly both).
Now do stopping from a run in frames. <:
TriTails
Smash Lord
Luigi in the last.
Nice! Can you do guest miis as well?
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Gunner's is 8.
I didn't test Swordfighter specifically, but his is in the booty range, likely 16, maybe 12 (Marth's or Link's).
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No idea but I'd imagine it's pretty low.
They don't change run speeds or walking speeds in patches. Or at least they haven't yet.
Didn't mewtwo get his run and walk speed increased this patch?
So people are saying. I haven't looked at it myself.
Vipermoon
King Marth's most trusted advisor.
It's been proven that he walks and runs about as fast as Charizard and MK, respectively. But no one knows the exact number.
Your Bayonetta picture in HILARIOUS.
Ok, so Mewtwo is sitting on 1.9 run speed and 1.2 walk speed up from 1.7 and 1.1
interesting
interesting
Masonomace
Yeah Shulk, get stuck in!
Did some training mode testing for estimations:
Idk Kirby's exact run speed value. It's greater than 1.52 which is Shulk's current run speed assuming that hasn't changed. But I finally live in a world where Monado Speed Kirby is faster than Monado Speed Shulk. BARELY.
So now, in a very specific standard metagame with certain requirements, Kirby can become the second fastest running character in the game. This is the Monado's Power. . .
- Cloud's walk speed moves slightly faster than Rosaluma (1.0835) but rivals Shulk ( 1.1)
- Cloud's walk speed with Limit Break aura moves faster than Pikachu (1.24) but rivals Diddy Kong (1.25)
- Cloud's run speed moves faster than Meta Knight (1.9) but rivals Roy (1.95)
- Cloud's run speed with Limit Break aura moves faster than Zero Suit Samus (2.1) but rivals Fox (2.184)
Idk Kirby's exact run speed value. It's greater than 1.52 which is Shulk's current run speed assuming that hasn't changed. But I finally live in a world where Monado Speed Kirby is faster than Monado Speed Shulk. BARELY.
So now, in a very specific standard metagame with certain requirements, Kirby can become the second fastest running character in the game. This is the Monado's Power. . .
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-Iceberg
Smash Cadet
I got similar values to yours (posted here: http://smashboards.com/threads/clouds-frame-data-1-1-3.426026/), but slightly different. Can I ask what method you used?Did some training mode testing for estimations:
EDIT:
- Cloud's walk speed moves slightly faster than Rosaluma (1.0835) but rivals Shulk ( 1.1)
- Cloud's walk speed with Limit Break aura moves faster than Pikachu (1.24) but rivals Diddy Kong (1.25)
- Cloud's run speed moves faster than Meta Knight (1.9) but rivals Roy (1.95)
- Cloud's run speed with Limit Break aura moves faster than Zero Suit Samus (2.1) but rivals Fox (2.184)
Idk Kirby's exact run speed value. It's greater than 1.52 which is Shulk's current run speed assuming that hasn't changed. But I finally live in a world where Monado Speed Kirby is faster than Monado Speed Shulk. BARELY.
So now, in a very specific standard metagame with certain requirements, Kirby can become the second fastest running character in the game. This is the Monado's Power. . .
I had some values different from
Masonomace
and
-Iceberg
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I confirmed that:
I tested in Special Smash and made them smaller, lighter and slower.
In my Custom Stage, he takes about 30 seconds to walk from end to end.
Masonomace
and
-Iceberg
.I confirmed that:
- His walk speed is faster than Rosalina(1.0835) and seems to be same as Shulk(1.1).
- His walk speed with Limit Break aura is faster than Diddy(1.25) and slower than Villager's run(1.27).
- His run speed is faster than Roy(1.95) and seems to be same as Charizard(2.0)
- His run speed with Limit Break aura is faster than ZSS(2.1) and slower than Fox(2.184)
- His fall speed is faster than MK(1.66) and slower than ZSS(1.7).
- His fall speed with Limit Break aura is faster than Peach's fast fall(1.84) and seems to be same as Greninja(1.85).
- His air speed is faster than R.O.B.(1.08) and seems to be same as DHD(1.1).
- His air speed with Limit Break aura is faster than Yoshi(1.28), he has the best air speed.
I tested in Special Smash and made them smaller, lighter and slower.
In my Custom Stage, he takes about 30 seconds to walk from end to end.
-Iceberg
Smash Cadet
Your numbers are definitely more accurate. For my results, I just went to a custom stage with two long platforms in Training Mode, and compared Cloud's running and walking speed with other characters, using 1/4 speed (hold L) to make sure they started at the same time. I think I'll update my thread with your values because mine are a little sloppy. I had no idea his air speed would be that crazy with Limit Break, wow. Would say these are the most precise numbers based on your data?I had some values different from
I confirmed that:
- His walk speed is faster than Rosalina(1.0835) and seems to be same as Shulk(1.1).
- His walk speed with Limit Break aura is faster than Diddy(1.25) and slower than Villager's run(1.27).
- His run speed is faster than Roy(1.95) and seems to be same as Charizard(2.0)
- His run speed with Limit Break aura is faster than ZSS(2.1) and slower than Fox(2.184)
- His fall speed is faster than MK(1.66) and slower than ZSS(1.7).
- His fall speed with Limit Break aura is faster than Peach's fast fall(1.84) and seems to be same as Greninja(1.85).
- His air speed is faster than R.O.B.(1.08) and seems to be same as DHD(1.1).
- His air speed with Limit Break aura is faster than Yoshi(1.28), he has the best air speed.
I tested in Special Smash and made them smaller, lighter and slower.
In my Custom Stage, he takes about 30 seconds to walk from end to end.
Walk Speed: 1.1
Walk Speed (Limit Break): 1.26
Run Speed: 2
Run Speed (Limit Break): 2.142
Fall Speed: 1.68
Fall Speed (Limit Break): 1.85
Air Speed: 1.1
Air Speed (Limit Break): 1.3
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Because of the different opinions in testing, I'll probably test this myself today and come back with the results. I did briefly test his dash speed and it's definitely between Roy and MK, so I'm unsure how you guys got the same dash speed as Charizard.
I would personally prefer numbers that aren't verified through datamining not simply be made up because that can lead to first impressions syndrome which is very hard to scrub clean when people find out the actual numbers.
I would personally prefer numbers that aren't verified through datamining not simply be made up because that can lead to first impressions syndrome which is very hard to scrub clean when people find out the actual numbers.
Yes, I have Mewtwo's (1.9 run, 1.2 walk).
I'm not entirely sure what other movement speeds changed. Did Kirby get a walk speed buff? I thought Lucario only falls faster?