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Man wish pits side B was faster I was just playing a friend and I went for a side B and got smack in the face with a Fsmash can it at least be as fast as caption falcons side B his is stronger, faster, and less laggy this sucks
But Pit's and Falcon's side b have the same startup


Only diffs are that Falcon's has 75 KBG with a 85 degree angle and has 3 less frames of endlag if you miss it. While Pit's have super armour with 60 KBG with an 80 degree angle


So technically the moves are near- identical
 
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But Pit's and Falcon's side b have the same startup


Only diffs are that Falcon's has 75 KBG with a 85 degree angle and has 3 less frames of endlag if you miss it. While Pit's have super armour with 60 KBG with an 80 degree angle


So technically the moves are near- identical
Really it must be my saltiness controlling my brain thanks for the info although I still think it should be faster or less lagged cause it seems like where being ignored
 

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Really it must be my saltiness controlling my brain thanks for the info although I still think it should be faster or less lagged cause it seems like where being ignored
Less end-lag would be SUPER nice tbh, but the it'll look like the move would be super spammy; that would be annoying along with the super armour.


Anyway colouring Palutena atm. So far trying to colour her is taking longer than colouring Pikachu, Kirby and Robin combined.
Palu gurl why do you have so much snazzy stuff
 

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ATTENTION ALL ANGELS!
The Umbra Witch Is On The Move!
This week in Conquest Mode! March 25th to April 1st!
:4pit: and :4darkpit: VS :4bayonetta:
Now Bayonetta may be DLC but we can't let her win that easy!
You know what to do! Get Online and Finish Her!
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But Pit's and Falcon's side b have the same startup


Only diffs are that Falcon's has 75 KBG with a 85 degree angle and has 3 less frames of endlag if you miss it. While Pit's have super armour with 60 KBG with an 80 degree angle


So technically the moves are near- identical
What I think he means is that Falcon's moves quicker when using the move (or at least that's what it seems)

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I wouldn't say MK had no reason to be overlooked, but he was definitely still a good character early on.

Link's probably underrated a bit but I don't think Ness is since he's usually placed in top tier or close to it. IMO that's awful high for him...
Lol I remember the first time I played a Meta Knight in Smash 4. It was my introduction to what "no endlag" truly was and that dude didn't even use the UAir combo. I immediately realized MK was far from anything but one of the better characters in the game. Tried to tell people, but no one would listen. Then a couple of weeks later, Leo dominated Mr. R

I would go as far as to consider Ness a top 5 or 6 character in the game, based on my personal experiences

Actually people did have a reason to look over him tho. Cause everyone thought (THOUGHT) he was bad from the nerfs. Now look at him

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"Thought" for no reason because literally no one tried to pick him up in Smash 4 to find out
 
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"Thought" for no reason because literally no one tried to pick him up in Smash 4 to find out
Exactly the same situation with Roy! (well, maybe not 100% exactly, but you get the idea.)

Anyway, kind of over all this arguing, so how about we just let bigons be bigons and move on?

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Less end-lag would be SUPER nice tbh, but the it'll look like the move would be super spammy; that would be annoying along with the super armour.


Anyway colouring Palutena atm. So far trying to colour her is taking longer than colouring Pikachu, Kirby and Robin combined.
Palu gurl why do you have so much snazzy stuff
I only want regular Pit's to be faster are you gonna post a picture showing ous? Just keep working hard and it'll turn out great best of luck to you
 
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Hey pit mains, I now probably all of you are better with pit than me so can you guys help me with the DK Matchup since it's a horrible matchup for M2 I have to stick to just pit the thing is I can never thing straight cause worried about making a mistake and dieing at 80 help please
 

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I only want regular Pit's to be faster are you gonna post a picture showing ous? Just keep working hard and it'll turn out great best of luck to you
Thankzies~ :happysheep:

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Hey pit mains, I now probably all of you are better with pit than me so can you guys help me with the DK Matchup since it's a horrible matchup for M2 I have to stick to just pit the thing is I can never thing straight cause worried about making a mistake and dieing at 80 help please
I'm not the best at MU analysis but Pit usually does good against heavies due to his combo game and such. You shouldn't be scared of dying early unless he has really high rage
 

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Hey pit mains, I now probably all of you are better with pit than me so can you guys help me with the DK Matchup since it's a horrible matchup for M2 I have to stick to just pit the thing is I can never thing straight cause worried about making a mistake and dieing at 80 help please
This match up is very fundamentally based. You can't just throw out random dash attacks and dash grabs. You have to play neutral/footsies and bait out some of his options (probably a dash grab) and punish those. It's one of those match ups where the better of a player you are the easier it will be unlike Bayonetta where it doesn't solely depend on how good of a player you are. If you don't know the Bayonetta match up you'll probably get bodied regardless of how good you are. Don't do anything unsafe on his shield that will get you shield grabbed. The next thing for you to do is find out what's safe or not on his shield. I would try forward tilt, fair, and maybe a cross up nair. All of these moves have to be spaced ofcourse.

On paper this match up seems terrible for Pit. DK gets a grab and he's getting 30% damage and maybe a stock. Pit gets a grab and gets 20% maximum maybe. But our combos ends with him being in a huge disadvantage state (in the air). DK isn't exactly the best at landing. Catch his landings with either pivot grabs, dash attacks, up airs, and (probably our best punish tools for catching people landing) our frame 5 upsmash that is good damage and a good way to take a stock. I can usually sneak in 2 upsmashes on a DK that's landing.

I don't recommend on doing side Bs ever against DK unless going for a super hard read. He can kill you with a down smash out of shield and you'll die super early. He's also pretty gimpable offstage.

That's all I have for now, but I'm sure I'm missing some other things.
 
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This match up is very fundamentally based. You can't just throw out random dash attacks and dash grabs. You have to play neutral/footsies and bait out some of his options (probably a dash grab) and punish those. It's one of those match ups where the better of a player you are the easier it will be unlike Bayonetta where it doesn't solely depend on how good of a player you are. If you don't know the Bayonetta match up you'll probably get bodied regardless of how good you are. Don't do anything unsafe on his shield that will get you shield grabbed. The next thing for you to do is find out what's safe or not on his shield. I would try forward tilt, fair, and maybe a cross up nair. All of these moves have to be spaced ofcourse.

On paper this match up seems terrible for Pit. DK gets a grab and he's getting 30% damage and maybe a stock. Pit gets a grab and gets 20% maximum maybe. But our combos ends with him being in a huge disadvantage state (in the air). DK isn't exactly the best at landing. Catch his landings with either pivot grabs, dash attacks, up airs, and (probably our best punish tools for catching people landing) our frame 5 upsmash that is good damage and a good way to take a stock. I can usually sneak in 2 upsmashes on a DK that's landing.

I don't recommend on doing side Bs ever against DK nless going for a super hard read. He can kill you with a down smash out of shield and kill you super early. He's also pretty gimpable offstage.

That's all I have for now, but I'm sure I'm missing some other things.
Thanks I really needed this advice I am considering picking up a zoner to deal with heavy weights since I always do bad against them (probably just me being Impatient) who's a good zoner for specificly someone to deal with Bowser and DK?And thank you for your time
 
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Thanks I really needed this advice I am considering picking up a zoner to deal with heavy weights since I always do bad against them (probably just me being Impatient) who's a good zoner for specificly someone to deal with Bowser and DK?And thank you for your time
Zoners aren't really my cup of tea, but when I was not fundamentally that great at this game I used Olimar and Robin to deal with heavies. Robin might be your best bet though if you can get used to his mobility.
 

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Zoners aren't really my cup of tea, but when I was not fundamentally that great at this game I used Olimar and Robin to deal with heavies. Robin might be your best bet though if you can get used to his mobility.
*Zoners not cup of tea

*Plays Pit

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Thanks I really needed this advice I am considering picking up a zoner to deal with heavy weights since I always do bad against them (probably just me being Impatient) who's a good zoner for specificly someone to deal with Bowser and DK?And thank you for your time
Well you have a good variety of zoners to pick from

I would suggest either (asides from Pit) Link, Toon Link or Robin

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*Zoners not cup of tea

*Plays Pit

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Well you have a good variety of zoners to pick from

I would suggest either (asides from Pit) Link, Toon Link or Robin

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You think Pit is a zoner? Hm. I see him as more of a spacing character like Marth that can be aggressive like Fox. A mix of both of them, but he's the best at neither. When I hears zoners, characters like Olimar, Megaman, Robin, or Villager come to mind. Characters that can apply pressure from a very safe distance. This tactic usually involves projectiles in smash 4. I can see how the defintions of spacing and zoning could blend together though.

Oh and what's up guys. I've been playing Bayonetta recently. She feels like Pit to me oddly. Air speed, frame data, movement on the ground, and ,most importantly, her offstage gameplay <3. And have been beating people I usually go even with more easily and beating people I usually lose to slightly now. Consistently getting top 3 at locals, so yay. Told myself I would only use Bayonetta for 2 months straight before touching any other character so I could learn her. As of right now I think I'm gonna keep Pit for certain match ups I don't like with Bayonetta like Ness or DK. We'll see. Was playing Pit yesterday though and he's still fun to me.
 
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You think Pit is a zoner? Hm. I see him as more of a spacing character like Marth that can be aggressive like Fox. A mix of both of them, but he's the best at neither. When I hears zoners, characters like Olimar, Megaman, Robin, or Villager come to mind. Characters that can apply pressure from a very safe distance. This tactic usually involves projectiles in smash 4. I can see how the defintions of spacing and zoning could blend together though.
I think of pit as a all rounder or spacing character I'd say agressive but he just doesn't have the speed or frame data to qualify
 

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Thanks I really needed this advice I am considering picking up a zoner to deal with heavy weights since I always do bad against them (probably just me being Impatient) who's a good zoner for specificly someone to deal with Bowser and DK?And thank you for your time
You can always try Rosa; but you gotta spend some time learning her though. Defiantly try out the options the others gave.

Just finished Palu's hair. I actually thought I was gonna pass out geez. But I didn't
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Now onto her face and skin~! I think I might've messed up her eye placement in the drawing phase. #oop


Sensane Sensane good luck~! Remember your fellow angels are cheering for yew~!
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Oh and I accidentally went Bayo for conquest #oop. I cannot resist the dsmash kills :secretkpop:
 

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You think Pit is a zoner? Hm. I see him as more of a spacing character like Marth that can be aggressive like Fox. A mix of both of them, but he's the best at neither. When I hears zoners, characters like Olimar, Megaman, Robin, or Villager come to mind. Characters that can apply pressure from a very safe distance. This tactic usually involves projectiles in smash 4. I can see how the defintions of spacing and zoning could blend together though.
Oh, Yeah, that's probably more what Pit is like. I was just saying it because Pit can zone an opponent if he wants to.

Oh and what's up guys. I've been playing Bayonetta recently me. She feels like Pit to me oddly. Air speed, frame data, movement on the ground, and ,most importantly, her offstage gameplay <3. And have been beating people I usually go even with more easily and beating people I usually lose to slightly now. Consistently getting top 3 at locals, so yay. Told myself I would only use Bayonetta for 2 months straight before touching any other character so I could learn her. As of right now I think I'm gonna keep Pit for certain match ups I don't like with Bayonetta like Ness or DK. We'll see. Was playing Pit yesterday though and he's still fun to me.
No.....

You have given into it. I didn't think the Bayo curse would spread this fast!

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Oh, Yeah, that's probably more what Pit is like. I was just saying it because Pit can zone an opponent if he wants to.



No.....

You have given into it. I didn't think the Bayo curse would spread this fast!

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Oh god the time is upon ous the bayo wars have begun we must take this victory
 

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On the topic of zoning with Pit, Pit actually has a ridiculously good zoning game with fullhop arrows, If you have good enough aim, you can outcamp characters like link, tink, greninja, shiek, etc.
 
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On the topic of zoning with Pit, Pit actually has a ridiculously good zoning game with fullhop arrows, If you have good enough aim, you can outcamp characters like link, tink, greninja, shiek, etc.
Wow I never really thought about it that way maybe this will help me out more on the DK Matchup definitely going to try this approach
 

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Wow I never really thought about it that way maybe this will help me out more on the DK Matchup definitely going to try this approach
First step is to pick any stage besides battlefield, dreamland or Lylat if you wanna camp :p
Then start spamming full hop arrows forcing them to approach (you don't have to angle them completely down, as long as you hit DK before you land you can fire another arrow while still in the air), it works in a similiar way to Shiek's needles where you consider how they react and you react accordingly. Also don't panic if they get too close, you can act immediately after a full hop arrow so, airdodge, jump away, retaliate, etc. E.g You're spamming full hop arrows aimed towards him, and he comes close, you have a multitude of options here, you can land/cross him over and start camping again from the other side, you can rush him down all off a sudden with a dash attack or grab, you can punish him for trying to hit you. It's honestly a pretty cancerous playstyle but it's hella effective haha.
 
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First step is to pick any stage besides battlefield, dreamland or Lylat if you wanna camp :p
Then start spamming full hop arrows forcing them to approach (you don't have to angle them completely down, as long as you hit DK before you land you can fire another arrow while still in the air), it works in a similiar way to Shiek's needles where you consider how they react and you react accordingly. Also don't panic if they get too close, you can act immediately after a full hop arrow so, airdodge, jump away, retaliate, etc. E.g You're spamming full hop arrows aimed towards him, and he comes close, you have a multitude of options here, you can land/cross him over and start camping again from the other side, you can rush him down all off a sudden with a dash attack or grab, you can punish him for trying to hit you. It's honestly a pretty cancerous playstyle but it's hella effective haha.
I could care less how toxic(unless its in real life thatd be terrible lol) is long as it helps me beat DK ill on another note I'm pretty bored and you seem to be the only pit main online if we get another patch what do you think is the first thing they'd change about pit nerf or buff
 
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I could care less how toxic(unless its in real life thatd be terrible lol) is long as it helps me beat DK ill on another note I'm pretty bored and you seem to be the only pit main online if we get another patch what do you think is the first thing they'd change about pit nerf or buff
In all honesty I think they will change nothing. Buuut if I had to guess, they'd probably nerf Electroshock a bit while buffing Dark Pit's arrows (maybe less grounded endlag?).
 

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In all honesty I think they will change nothing. Buuut if I had to guess, they'd probably nerf Electroshock a bit while buffing Dark Pit's arrows (maybe less grounded endlag?).
Naw Electroshock is totally fine
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People just have to stay away from the ledge
 
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In all honesty I think they will change nothing. Buuut if I had to guess, they'd probably nerf Electroshock a bit while buffing Dark Pit's arrows (maybe less grounded endlag?).
I doubt they would nerf dark pit I feel like Sakurai is secretly a DP main but the only thing I want for Pit is for nair to connect better and have less endlag
 
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Naw Electroshock is totally fine View attachment 101415


People just have to stay away from the ledge
Not sure if sarcastic but either way none of us want it changed :)
(edit: nvm your GIF loaded :3 I totally agree)


I doubt they would nerf dark pit I feel like Sakurai is secretly a DP main but the only thing I want for Pit is for nair to connect better and have less endlag
Haha edgy Sakurai would be a sight to see.

Nair is fine, tbh I like being able to link nair into usmash at kill percents because people fall out of it. Endlag is fine too since it autocancels.....unless they remove autocancel and just give it no endlag throughout, that would be amazing :3 Nair > Usmash for dayz.
 
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Not sure if sarcastic but either way none of us want it changed :3


Haha edgy Sakurai would be a sight to see.

Nair is fine, tbh I like being able to link nair into usmash at kill percents because people fall out of it. Endlag is fine too since it autocancels.....unless they remove autocancel and just give it no endlag throughout, that would be amazing :3 Nair > Usmash for dayz.
I ususally use dthrow>dair>nair alot of the time they fall out maybe the upsmash is a better option since it kills well you learn something new everyday
 

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These cat pictures never fail to make me feel all good inside
Yeah, I haven't used them in a while
Saw them on Deviantart and I'm like:"I need that. Like, now"

Apparently his name is Onion. He's quite cute

Here's a link to all the ones I have: http://imgur.com/a/Rv9nI

Also I would suggest you avoid double posting. Don't wanna get an infraction~
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Yeah, I haven't used them in a while
Saw them on Deviantart and I'm like:"I need that. Like, now"

Apparently his name is Onion. He's quite cute

Here's a link to all the ones I have: http://imgur.com/a/Rv9nI

Also I would suggest you avoid double posting. Don't wanna get an infraction~ View attachment 101417
Okay now I'm confuse can you remind me what a double post is
 

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Koiba Koiba So this is what happened to your old profile pic :O
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Also....
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who made this lmao
 
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Alright Koiba and Xacer I'm about to take a shower and go to sleep this was neat I hope we can do this again sometime have a nice night guys
 
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