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[Koiba]

Patch dropped guys

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Any Pit/Dark Pit changes noticed?

 

[The Merc]

No buffs for Pitty Pat? Aw man....

They wouldn't care...also Leonardo is a better dual swordsman anyways

But..... none Clone Ganon moveset.......

Take a guess what his frame data would be like.

I mean, he'd be powerful and have a ton of range. Bad frame data is basically required. We have characters like that, and I don't think there's space for another after Sakurai's "just another swordsman" speech.

*Powerful, ton of Range=Bad frame data*

Cloud says hello.

But seriously, if he did get dual swords, i wouldn't be surprised if it did happen. Also, what 'just another swordsman speech'? is that the one about Chrom. If so, that really doesn't count since the the moment Ganon is JUST ANOTHER F****** CLONE!!!

 

[TMNTSSB4]

No buffs for Pitty Pat? Aw man....



But..... none Clone Ganon moveset.......



*Powerful, ton of Range=Bad frame data*

Cloud says hello.

But seriously, if he did get dual swords, i wouldn't be surprised if it did happen. Also, what 'just another swordsman speech'? is that the one about Chrom. If so, that really doesn't count since the the moment Ganon is JUST ANOTHER F****** CLONE!!!

Leonardo excels Tanondorf

 

[The Merc]

Leonardo excels Tanondorf

And Deadpool excels all

 

[TMNTSSB4]

And Deadpool excels all

Except trying to become bffs with Spiderman...or get a date with Thor.

 

[LancerStaff]

Sooo I made a lengthy post in Chompy's patch topic.

The TLDR version is that Dark Pit's RJF may of gotten a bigger hitbox but I can't retest ATM so I need some help finding the change. Something changed on Dark Pit according to the data. If you guys have any good ideas (emphasis on "good") take 'em there and I'll have a look. ReRaze too. I know worse Marth got some buffs but we need some help finding some obscure and useless change, okay? :\/

 

[Sensane]

The only dual swordsman I want in Smash is Lloyd Irving. If he's equipped with the material weapons, I have a very interesting idea for him.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Sooo I made a lengthy post in Chompy's patch topic.

The TLDR version is that Dark Pit's RJF may of gotten a bigger hitbox but I can't retest ATM so I need some help finding the change. Something changed on Dark Pit according to the data. If you guys have any good ideas (emphasis on "good") take 'em there and I'll have a look. ReRaze too. I know worse Marth got some buffs but we need some help finding some obscure and useless change, okay? :\/

Maybe his Electroshock was slightly nerfed? Because it seems like it did.

 

[LancerStaff]

Maybe his Electroshock was slightly nerfed? Because it seems like it did.

Come on man, you know that's the first thing I tried. Wasn't touched.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Come on man, you know that's the first thing I tried. Wasn't touched.

I didn't know, was to busy with Bayonetta.

 

[Sensane]

I didn't know, was to busy with Bayonetta.

*that's what she said*

 

[TMNTSSB4]

*that's what she said*

The joke doesn't really work in this situation...

 

[Sensane]

The joke doesn't really work in this situation...

I know, but I just thought that it was funny to say it XP

 

[TMNTSSB4]

I know, but I just thought that it was funny to say it XP

Better than Do You Bleed atleast.

 

[Sensane]

Just fought a kamui player in AL and good news: I think that we have the advantage. Dragon shot is pretty unsafe thanks to orbitars and his recovery is easily gimpable for us. That and upperdash/electroshock can be a significant move against dragon lunge, and they can't bait one with that move. It may end up being even as the MU becomes more developed, but I think we currently have the advantage.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Just fought a kamui player in AL and good news: I think that we have the advantage. Dragon shot is pretty unsafe thanks to orbitars and his recovery is easily gimpable for us. That and upperdash/electroshock can be a significant move against dragon lunge, and they can't bait one with that move. It may end up being even as the MU becomes more developed, but I think we currently have the advantage.

I can't believe that someone else agrees with me on Corrin(even though she's fun as hell to play as)

 

[LancerStaff]

Just fought a kamui player in AL and good news: I think that we have the advantage. Dragon shot is pretty unsafe thanks to orbitars and his recovery is easily gimpable for us. That and upperdash/electroshock can be a significant move against dragon lunge, and they can't bait one with that move. It may end up being even as the MU becomes more developed, but I think we currently have the advantage.

In AL? Alabama, or are you talking about some online thing?

Pit beats Corrin pretty much by the fact that arrows ruin his recovery. As soon as he gets launched keep firing arrows and he won't be able to overcome his bad air speed and acceleration since his Bair won't come out. I've been seeing Corrins die as low as 75% because there's really not a lot you can do...

Corrin also doesn't have a good way to recovery from a lower corner, especially since he's restricted to a low ledge snap. Hit him off the ledge snap with the back hit of Dsmash and plink away with arrows again. If he pins to a wall Dair him ASAP because the jump is surprisingly laggy.

Myself, I don't think the matchup will ever advance past -1, probably a -2 right now. Corrin's onstage game just isn't strong enough compared to Pit's to matter.

 

[Sensane]

Whoops, sorry haha. I meant Anther's Ladder. XP

 

[The Merc]

So, has Dark Pit's 'buff' been found yet?

change is probably the better word though.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

So, has Dark Pit's 'buff' been found yet?

change is probably the better word though.

Final Smash astetics apparently...boo

 

[Dusk Pit]

So, has Dark Pit's 'buff' been found yet?

change is probably the better word though.

No, not yet.
It's probably just something irrelevant that nobody cares about though.

 

[Sensane]

Will anyone kill me if I say that Dark Pit doesn't need a buff anymore? He got his buff in the last patch.

 

[LancerStaff]

Will anyone kill me if I say that Dark Pit doesn't need a buff anymore? He got his buff in the last patch.

I mean, they're two spots from top 15 and can really only go up from here. They're in a fine spot right now.

Speaking of the changes, it's actually supposed to be a visual change. Since I haven't been playing Pittwo as much this patch because of Bayogedden I may of not noticed something like his Fair animation being corrected... Meanwhile his pummel animation is still broken on 3DS.

 

[Dusk Pit]

Will anyone kill me if I say that Dark Pit doesn't need a buff anymore? He got his buff in the last patch.

I wouldn't mind more buffs
If they fixed his ftilt, I would be happy

I mean, they're two spots from top 15 and can really only go up from here. They're in a fine spot right now.

Speaking of the changes, it's actually supposed to be a visual change. Since I haven't been playing Pittwo as much this patch because of Bayogedden I may of not noticed something like his Fair animation being corrected... Meanwhile his pummel animation is still broken on 3DS.

No his fair animation is still longer than Pit's and utilt has the same odd whifs. I have no idea what the change could be tbh.

 

[LancerStaff]

No his fair animation is still longer than Pit's and utilt has the same odd whifs. I have no idea what the change could be tbh.

Dark Pit's Utilt animation matches the hitboxes better then Pit's though... There's some Captain Falcon level disjoints on the move.

Well, then it's probably something on his Final Smash then. Seems like a lot of characters had visual changes on their's this patch.

 

[Koiba]

I like it how they buffed electroshock but not the fact that his bow floats when he pummel on 3ds lol



But yeah Zelda did get her final smash changed visually apparently soooooooooooo......





But tbh I'm super happy the way Dark Pit turned out~!
The fact that people can actually stop saying "omg pick Pit becuz arrows and teh betr arm becyz it killz erlr in teh ceiling hd1kh xV n" is great

 

[LancerStaff]

Yeah, Electroshock wasn't really worse then Upperdash. The whole higher fall speed = more upwards launch resistance thing only applies to Melee and probably 64. Brawl onwards you take more knockback upwards depending on your gravity.

Electroshock was better if you back the opponent into a corner, while Upperdash was better if you were cornered. Upperdash couldn't gimp though, and that's why I prefered Electroshock.

 

[The Merc]

Final Smash astetics apparently...boo

Well that's a little disappointing.

No, not yet.
It's probably just something irrelevant that nobody cares about though.

Most likely.

But tbh I'm super happy the way Dark Pit turned out~!
The fact that people can actually stop saying "omg pick Pit becuz arrows and teh betr arm becyz it killz erlr in teh ceiling hd1kh xV n" is great

Just waiting for Pit to get his Arm buff too. Then this will all for nuthin.

 

[Koiba]

Just waiting for Pit to get his Arm buff too. Then this will all for nuthin.

Eh, tbh I don't really think Pit needs an upperdash buff



*hides in corner*


Sorta suprised that no one said anything about the DP change in the patch tho

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Well that's a little disappointing.



Most likely.



Just waiting for Pit to get his Arm buff too. Then this will all for nuthin.

1. Astetics are always disappointing if it misleads people.
2. Yes to an Upperdash Buff

 

[The Merc]

Eh, tbh I don't really think Pit needs an upperdash buff



*hides in corner*


Sorta suprised that no one said anything about the DP change in the patch tho

Yes he does.

Also, that's cause we still don't 100% know what it is.

1. Astetics are always disappointing if it misleads people.
2. Yes to an Upperdash Buff

1.Well, if there mislead people yes. But if they improve the look and stuff of the character then no
2) #BuffUpperdash

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Yes he does.

Also, that's cause we still don't 100% know what it is.



1.Well, if there mislead people yes. But if they improve the look and stuff of the character then no
2) #BuffUpperdash

1. Bad idea for the person who said Pittoo got buffed...to say that in the first place.
2.#BufftheDasherUp

 

[FiXalaS]

Will anyone kill me if I say that Dark Pit doesn't need a buff anymore? He got his buff in the last patch.

I'd say the last thing both pits need is a B(arrow) startup buff, oh and a damagebuff(arrow) but only for dpit.

 

[ReRaze]

If they made Pit and Dark Pit one character i.e Pit arrows + Pitoo arm it would definitely throw them into high tier imo if they aren't already.

But yeah damage buff on side b would be nice, if not buff the startup or knockback (for pit). A move with as much commitment as that shouldn't have that little reward, especially when you compare it to risky moves like flare blitz which also has much more distance.

 

[The Merc]

If they made Pit and Dark Pit one character i.e Pit arrows + Pitoo arm it would definitely throw them into high tier imo if they aren't already.

But yeah damage buff on side b would be nice, if not buff the startup or knockback (for pit). A move with as much commitment as that shouldn't have that little reward, especially when you compare it to risky moves like flare blitz which also has much more distance.

Or Raptor Booster.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

If they made Pit and Dark Pit one character i.e Pit arrows + Pitoo arm it would definitely throw them into high tier imo if they aren't already.

But yeah damage buff on side b would be nice, if not buff the startup or knockback (for pit). A move with as much commitment as that shouldn't have that little reward, especially when you compare it to risky moves like flare blitz which also has much more distance.

Broken

Or Raptor Booster.

Good idea

 

[FiXalaS]

If they made Pit and Dark Pit one character i.e Pit arrows + Pitoo arm it would definitely throw them into high tier imo if they aren't already.

But yeah damage buff on side b would be nice, if not buff the startup or knockback (for pit). A move with as much commitment as that shouldn't have that little reward, especially when you compare it to risky moves like flare blitz which also has much more distance.

sorry if I wasn't clear, was talking about the bows.

side B for dark pit is perfect, pit could use a better aerial Side N though

 

[Tito Maas]

Forget an Uppderdash Buff. Give him a DAir buff. Bigger spikebpx plus stronger knockback

 

[FiXalaS]

noo too strong dair is already fast.

maybe make the spike hitbox bigger