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[Shroomed]

i wanna crew battle the baysians, and whiteboyninja you were a cool guy but rite now you and your other club members do sound like a bunch of crybabies

think of it like this:

you threw a party
you had food and drinks at the party
ppl ate the food and drinks
every single person didnt throw away every single piece of garbage
you had to clean up

so you should have clearly expected this and stop crying over having to sweep up and pick up garbage

i want a rematch vs the germ!!!!!!
and rey you drive come to san pablo, and bring SS, and falcomist, and someone pick up rapelicate, and phil, and some other people and we can smash in my garage
3 setups at my house ftw

 

[realitydeviant]

Hi All,

My name's Andy Manoske, and I'm the Secretary of the SJSU Computer Science club. I was one of the people that went to bat for Ninja's tournaments with the Computer Science faculty here at San Jose State. Before I talk, I want to reiterate that my views do not actively reflect the total opinions of the CS club.

The CS club has previously had an excellent relationship with the Smash community. Kizzo's management of the Bi-Weeklies had shown us that the community as a whole is generally a well-mannered and fun group. This last weekend however, while clearly not indicative of the generally amicable behavior of the smash community, was a disaster.

Ninja and two of our officers worked VERY hard to even set this tournament up. At least one of our officers was here for over 8 hours, watching over a tournament he didn't particularly care about/like, and was forced to stay late with everyone else to clean up after you. The state of the room was atrocious. Leaving the room in that state is extremely disrespectful to several of us that went to bat for the Smash Community (of whom few are actual CS club members, much less computer science students or even students here at SJSU).

This disrespect is compounded further with the behavior by some of the individuals at the party. Germ, I'm not sure you understand how much work went into hosting this event. Several of us, including non-smashers, vouched for your behavior to some very important people at this school. To disrespect us by treating Ninja like this, on top of leaving the room in the state it was in, is downright absurd.

I don't think you understand that you had people, who don't play smash, spending another up to 12 hours both watching over the tournament and cleaning up after people that they swore were well-mannered. Many of the CS club officers don't play smash, and were doing this as a favor to Nick. You dashed this in their face, and horribly disrespected their altruism with pure ignorant vitriol.

Because of this behavior, there will be no more tournaments at San Jose State. I cannot stress enough how disappointed I am in the sophomoric behavior displayed by members such as Germ. While only a small subset of the smash community, this behavior is so repulsive that I cannot in any way promote these events any longer.

These tournaments were a privilege. A privilege that you squandered.

Germ, you should be apologizing to Ninja. I'm not sure what clearly underfunded school of rhetoric you subscribe to, but even thinking about insulting the guy that went to bat for you and the rest of the smash community is downright amazing. Whatever point you had is lost in the baseless insults you've slung, and neither I nor any of my colleagues have anything but disdain for such behavior.

Shroomed, this wasn't a drunken house party. The CS club is an academic club whose purpose is to serve the students of San Jose State University, not a crash pad or a place to trash. We gave up our club room as a favor to Ninja for you to use. By not picking up after ourselves, you clearly showed that you have no respect for our good nature and spat on the previously excellent relationship that Kizzo and Mike666 set up between SJSU CS and the Smash community.

I'm sorry for those of you who aren't represented actively by Germ's behavior, and for those of you that might've taken the time to clean up. Unfortunately, the SJSU CS club cannot in good conscience continue these tournaments.

Regards,
Andy Manoske
SJSU CS Club Secretary

 

[Miharu]

To start this post off, I'm going to say that I'm not condoning the community's behavior; it was inappropriate. Neither am I being ungrateful, but there are some things that, like it or not, have to be said.

However, as tournament hosts, you must realize that it's first and foremost your responsibility to see that the **** gets cleaned up. As odd as it may seem, you honestly cannot expect smashers to clean up after themselves 100% of the time (I say this with the experience of cohosting a tournament a long while back). Someone's going to leave garbage behind, and you have two choices: you either clean it up yourself, or inform the offender of the issue, and have them clean it up themselves. Frankly, if you can't deal with the responsibilities that come with hosting a tournament, then don't even bother hosting them.

Room needs to be clean before people leave? Make that clear early, long before the tournament even begins. You may think that it's only second-nature for people to clean up after themselves, but most people do need a reminder now and then. I'm sorry that you weren't prepared for that, but it's a necessary precaution that needs to be taken if you want cleanup to go smoothly.

People are naive and uninformed. How are the majority of the attendees to know how hard the CS club worked to make this tournament happen? You expect them to be fully aware of the circumstances (when you clearly know that they aren't), and then essentially blame them for not knowing something that they pretty much had no way of knowing.

It's still rather ridiculous, not to mention rash, to simply outright ban these events from SJSU a mere 2 days after this "incident" occurred, without any real discussion/communication between the two "parties," if you will. But in the end, the final decision does lay in your hands, so you're essentially free to do as you wish.

Just do everyone a favor, and don't act as if your party is completely guilt-free.

 

[The King]

****.....burned.

 

[ProdigyKid]

Makes you appreciate the Kizzo (and the occassional Mike666) years more, doesn't it?

Plus, Nick had mentioned earlier that they had no intentions of running another tournament. Complaining is just unnecessary at this point. From both sides.

EDIT: Also makes you wish San Pablo isnt in the middle of nowhere ;P

 

[realitydeviant]

To start this post off, I'm going to say that I'm not condoning the community's behavior; it was inappropriate. Neither am I being ungrateful, but there are some things that, like it or not, have to be said.

However, as tournament hosts, you must realize that it's first and foremost your responsibility to see that the **** gets cleaned up. As odd as it may seem, you honestly cannot expect smashers to clean up after themselves 100% of the time (I say this with the experience of cohosting a tournament a long while back). Someone's going to leave garbage behind, and you have two choices: you either clean it up yourself, or inform the offender of the issue, and have them clean it up themselves. Frankly, if you can't deal with the responsibilities that come with hosting a tournament, then don't even bother hosting them.

Room needs to be clean before people leave? Make that clear early, long before the tournament even begins. You may think that it's only second-nature for people to clean up after themselves, but most people do need a reminder now and then. I'm sorry that you weren't prepared for that, but it's a necessary precaution that needs to be taken if you want cleanup to go smoothly.

People are naive and uninformed. How are the majority of the attendees to know how hard the CS club worked to make this tournament happen? You expect them to be fully aware of the circumstances (when you clearly know that they aren't), and then essentially blame them for not knowing something that they pretty much had no way of knowing.

It's still rather ridiculous, not to mention rash, to simply outright ban these events from SJSU a mere 2 days after this "incident" occurred, without any real discussion/communication between the two "parties," if you will. But in the end, the final decision does lay in your hands, so you're essentially free to do as you wish.

Just do everyone a favor, and don't act as if your party is completely guilt-free.

Miharu,

First, I'm not sure you understand how much trash was left around the room. A few cups and some plates is clearly not a big deal. The amount of trash left in the room was atrocious.

Second, you're absolutely right. Clearly, we had expected the tournament to behave like the other untold number of Smash tournaments hosted here. Wrongly, we had thought that the Smash community would once again reflect positively on themselves by acting respectfully and graciously in regards to the usage of the room. I'm not sure how old you are, but most of us are 21+. There is a certain requisite maturity for this age, and this was clearly unobserved by some of the smashers at the tournament.

The rules of the real world are in play here. Nobody here is your mother. We are not going to remind you to clean up after yourselves. You will either respect the establishment, and the privilege given to you, or you won't have access to that privilege anymore. Simple.

I frankly don't see what you see as ridiculous about this. Maybe you weren't around to see the amount of trash left, or haven't read some of the post responses to Ninja's comments. This behavior is disrespectful, sophomoric, and unbecoming of even a 10 year old.

Again, it is recognized that this is not the behavior of the Smash community. But such a loud disrespect of our club (in action and in text) is incorrigible and will not go unrecognized.

This topic is closed.

 

[pockyD]

looks like 'sophomoric' is the word of the day on your calendar

 

[realitydeviant]

looks like 'sophomoric' is the word of the day on your calendar

Or I'm using it because it applies. Quick tip: when you want to attack someone on grammar/diction, full sentences and punctuation are generally pretty helpful.

Pathetic (and erroneous) pedantry and failed ad hominem generally don't contribute to your point, and negatively reflect on the otherwise good smashers here.

 

[pockyD]

what point is that?

i haven't heard the word used in 4 years, and suddenly i see it twice in 5 minutes. that's the sort of thing that gains my interest

it's unbelievable how defensive you are; why would you even remotely be offended by what i said? how was that even close to an attack? it feels like you are just searching for conflict

yes we all understand that people left a mess, yes we understand that it sucks for you, and yes it sucks that we can't have tournaments anymore. if this isn't open to discussion, then, especially as someone who doesn't seem to have much of an interest in smash, why are you still sticking around?

and why are you still here after you claim that "This topic is closed."?

 

[Shroomed]

thanks for hosting SJSU CS people, but you sound like *****es though

you had to clean up big deal, if you want people to help you clean up after a tournament simply ask
don't silently clean up and have a ***** fit when everyone doesnt stay and help you

P.S. ProdigyKid San Pablo is NOT in the middle of nowhere lol

come smash with us all of you ppl that can drive/catch bart
i can pick you guys up from the bart station for some MELEE!!!!!!!!

(let him cry pocky, let him cry)

 

[Miharu]

Miharu,

First, I'm not sure you understand how much trash was left around the room. A few cups and some plates is clearly not a big deal. The amount of trash left in the room was atrocious.

I was there, I realize that.

Second, you're absolutely right. Clearly, we had expected the tournament to behave like the other untold number of Smash tournaments hosted here. Wrongly, we had thought that the Smash community would once again reflect positively on themselves by acting respectfully and graciously in regards to the usage of the room. I'm not sure how old you are, but most of us are 21+. There is a certain requisite maturity for this age, and this was clearly unobserved by some of the smashers at the tournament.

Guess what. There were people who weren't 21; why are you holding them up to your standard of maturity for people of that age?

The rules of the real world are in play here. Nobody here is your mother. We are not going to remind you to clean up after yourselves. You will either respect the establishment, and the privilege given to you, or you won't have access to that privilege anymore. Simple.

Again, some people at fault don't realize that, and of course it doesn't hurt to give them a friendly reminder so that the trash doesn't end up sitting there for hours on end. But it seems to me that you're just using this incident as an excuse to take this privilege away, and are unwilling to reconcile or make any amends at all. Again, that's your prerogative to do so, but setting down ultimatums (especially without any further discussion) usually accomplishes very little.

I frankly don't see what you see as ridiculous about this. Maybe you weren't around to see the amount of trash left, or haven't read some of the post responses to Ninja's comments. This behavior is disrespectful, sophomoric, and unbecoming of even a 10 year old.

Must you keep on assuming that I'm terribly uninformed? Or will you just take this as an excuse afterwards to claim that I'm biased? Try putting yourself in the opposition's shoes and maybe try thinking from their point of view.

Again, it is recognized that this is not the behavior of the Smash community. But such a loud disrespect of our club (in action and in text) is incorrigible and will not go unrecognized.

By a select few, really. Don't forget that you really gave no time for apologies to be given before unloading your opinion upon the community, and chose the actions of a select few as an excuse to ban these events for good.

This topic is closed.

That's great; you've just decided to aid in the burning of the bridge between the two communities without giving it another thought. If that's the case I really hold you in no higher esteem than those you've decided to criticize; you've spat on the work of those who preceded you much like the people that you've decided to set the blame on.

Funny how you label others as "sophomoric" when you're too close minded to even look at the situation from a relatively objective point of view.

Oh, one last thing. Not being so d mn negative helps quite a bit.

 

[pockyD]

well, he's right about most of the things he said

doesn't mean he's not being condescending and ridiculous though

 

[SuperRad]

I just want to say, the fact that this was the first tournament that a large amount of food was sold to the participants and this being the only tournament to have such a terrible trash problem are not coincidental.
Additionally, the thing about the Kizzo/Mike biweeklies is that the tournament ran it's course and then afterward when it was time to go the room was put back in place and cleaned up by the participants of the tournament and the host.

There is this assertion that the room would've been left in shambles if it weren't for the CS Officers there, but my two years of attending smash tournaments in the CS Club Room tell me a different story. Yes, it is unfortunate that the room got as bad as it did. No, I do not think it should have ever reached that point of garbage.

I'm sad that this tournament went this way. I had a sliver of hope that once I eventually joined the CS Club and met some of the officers, I could have gotten enough trust from them to let me host tournaments there. It's unfortunate.

 

[Miharu]

Pretty much. But there's really two ways of going about this: you can either choose to simply ban these tournaments/smashfests from SJSU, or you can work towards a solution with the goal of someday running one of these again.

Guess they're going for the former. I mean, it's clear that they don't want to deal with this because it doesn't matter to them, and I don't really blame them for that.

But yeah, it still is rather pretentious of them to talk as if they weren't at fault for anything.

 

[darkatma]

I just want to say, the fact that this was the first tournament that a large amount of food was sold to the participants and this being the only tournament to have such a terrible trash problem are not coincidental.

I think there's a strong correlation as well

 

[Ian]

I'm sorry but I honestly don't see ANYTHING that was different from any other biweekly that was inappropriate to an extent where the SJSU representatives could be THIS upset- except for the trash. I'll get to that later, but I want to address germ first. This is standard Germ sarcasm that was turned into something because of the defensiveness of others initially he meant no disrespect, nor am I saying it wasn't disrespectful or justifying his reaction. He can't though be held completely accountable for the situation; I love Nick Worth he's a great guy but his personality doesn't exactly mix with Germ's, Nick is also responsible for the incident with Germ.

Now to the trash. I've been coming to the SJSU biweeklies since the middle of 2006 and this is the first biweekly where anyone ever mentioned the selling of snacks. Another thing is in the old biweeklies people usually picked up their trash when they were leaving, like for me I had my coke in a spot which I left for the night next to my controller and my sweatshirt which I would periodically come back and take a sip of. After the first time when someone yelled "this place isn't a garbage can!" I came back to find my half full coke thrown away. Granted who ever was doing it was doing a nice thing but I think a little more common sense should have gone into the trash. Why were people throughout the night yelling about how it needed to be kept clean? It was very pointless it was at a point where the majority of the people there were not eating or drinking anything and saying that wouldn't get them to go around and pick up trash in the middle of an exciting match. Please don't shoot my analogy down like you did to Shroom's because it has very little to do with my point and saying anything about this would be pointless and combative, but it's almost like we were all at a Sharks game and they asked everyone to pick up their trash in the last minute with a power play and blahblahblah no one is going to do it. You should have waited until the end to tell everyone to pick up their trash, but NO ONE said anything about trash as the whole crowd of people were leaving or if they did they didn't say it very loud it was more just get out. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying people would have been any better, the state of the hallways was disgusting, but the trashcans were all overflown except for the hidden one between the TVs. I am though saying that it might have been different if the situation was different

Another thing is this is a very different crowd from Mike666's and Kizzo's tournament, the majority of the mature down to earth peopl have moved on from smash or moved to college and now we have a new group of people who has only been around for a couple months who are a younger and don't understand common social graces, it was a tournament suited for the old smash community and I guess we proved on Saturday that it wasn't suited for the new smash community.

I'm sorry to the people who put this tournament on that it didn't go as smoothly as they'd have hoped for.

Best regards,
Ian

 

[Bigredball]

First I have to note that my views and opinions do not reflect the views and opinions of anyone else but myself that being said I have a couple points to make here
1. Do people regularly leave trash every where especially at a school facility or even someone's house?
I find it ludicrous how when trash cans are about 6 steps away from the TV and can be regularly emptied no one bothers to use them. Trash cans are there for a reason. Also if this is the way you treat a public area where you know the room does not belong to you, how do you treat your own house, that being said I feel very sorry for your future spouse. That being said no single person should have to clean up for any one else
2. This behavior is not accepted anywhere. Would you go to someone's birthday party and leave a mess for the birthday boy/girl to clean up for you? After all that someone did have the decency to invite you and allow you to participate in activities in this party. Would you not show the same decency not to leave a mess for the person to clean up for you? Once again remember that this is a public facility and the room belongs to no one except the school and perhaps the Dean of Computer Science other than that no one else owns the room.
3.DO NOT expect other people to clean up for you! EVER because other people are not your mom who is probably too much of a pushover to be stern with any of you. Other people are not as forgiving so clean up your own mess.
The bottom line is "Treat others how you would like to be treated"

 

[NeighborhoodP]

i'm sure they're happy with the money they made off you guys for their club, though

these CS nerds sound really unhappy about life though, almost nothing is this big a deal

 

[Ian]

Or I'm using it because it applies. Quick tip: when you want to attack someone on grammar/diction, full sentences and punctuation are generally pretty helpful.

Pathetic (and erroneous) pedantry and failed ad hominem generally don't contribute to your point, and negatively reflect on the otherwise good smashers here.

You are ridiculous, the first rule of writing is write to your audience. You can't write to us calling us immature and ill mannered and write to us like your trying to write college essay.

Pathetic pedantry? are you serious? you would call someone criticizing the fact they are not using a period in a non-formal setting on the internet pathetic pedantry?

 

[Ryoto Hikawa]

I agree that perhaps some individuals were overzealous on the issue of trash. I would expect that the attendees (no offense to those who did keep track of their food) have the common courtesy to deal with their trash accordingly. But that is an issue gone by, not much can be done about what has already happened. I apologize for any offensive statements that may have been made by other members of the SJSU Computer Science club, because really, while I do find it fun to antagonize others from time to time, this issue should only have gone for possibly two pages at best.

Which brings me to a more important question: How would you recommend we improve the tournament setup? If you have any concerns about food disposal, hygiene, or other matters that may have bothered you during the tournament, please list them and perhaps this discussion can be steered in a more constructive direction to improve not only the experience of the host but also to improve the enjoyment of the people who count: The people attending the event. After all, what is an event with no attendees?

And for the record, I am a student at SJSU as well. Just happened to set aside about 2-3 hours to tidy up the room for the event Friday night by myself. There was quite a bit of trash that is normally left lying around, though I possibly could have gotten more done as far as clean went if I had brought a broom. :D

 

[Shroomed]

First I have to note that my views and opinions do not reflect the views and opinions of anyone else but myself that being said I have a couple points to make here
1. Do people regularly leave trash every where especially at a school facility or even someone's house?
I find it ludicrous how when trash cans are about 6 steps away from the TV and can be regularly emptied no one bothers to use them. Trash cans are there for a reason. Also if this is the way you treat a public area where you know the room does not belong to you, how do you treat your own house, that being said I feel very sorry for your future spouse. That being said no single person should have to clean up for any one else
2. This behavior is not accepted anywhere. Would you go to someone's birthday party and leave a mess for the birthday boy/girl to clean up for you? After all that someone did have the decency to invite you and allow you to participate in activities in this party. Would you not show the same decency not to leave a mess for the person to clean up for you? Once again remember that this is a public facility and the room belongs to no one except the school and perhaps the Dean of Computer Science other than that no one else owns the room.
3.DO NOT expect other people to clean up for you! EVER because other people are not your mom who is probably too much of a pushover to be stern with any of you. Other people are not as forgiving so clean up your own mess.
The bottom line is "Treat others how you would like to be treated"

hey guys look, it's mr never littered in his life

you act like you've never left garbage anywhere
and again i'll say, if you throw a party you expect your house to be perfectly clean when the party's done? stfu with that ****

don't host another tourney if you're gonna cry about having to clean up
sure i understand that it was an inconvenience and people shouldn't have left so much garbage around

but stop making it such a big deal
it's not like people were stealing or anything like that

($5 says they're going to start talking about people stealing food now)

 

[Miharu]

First I have to note that my views and opinions do not reflect the views and opinions of anyone else but myself that being said I have a couple points to make here
1. Do people regularly leave trash every where especially at a school facility or even someone's house?
I find it ludicrous how when trash cans are about 6 steps away from the TV and can be regularly emptied no one bothers to use them. Trash cans are there for a reason. Also if this is the way you treat a public area where you know the room does not belong to you, how do you treat your own house, that being said I feel very sorry for your future spouse. That being said no single person should have to clean up for any one else
2. This behavior is not accepted anywhere. Would you go to someone's birthday party and leave a mess for the birthday boy/girl to clean up for you? After all that someone did have the decency to invite you and allow you to participate in activities in this party. Would you not show the same decency not to leave a mess for the person to clean up for you? Once again remember that this is a public facility and the room belongs to no one except the school and perhaps the Dean of Computer Science other than that no one else owns the room.
3.DO NOT expect other people to clean up for you! EVER because other people are not your mom who is probably too much of a pushover to be stern with any of you. Other people are not as forgiving so clean up your own mess.
The bottom line is "Treat others how you would like to be treated"

Ok, I'm tired of this. You make some valid points, but must all 4 of you restate the same **** POINTS OVER AND OVER AGAIN?

You're getting absolutely nowhere, and it really looks like that you're out to point fingers and assign blame when the "culprits" aren't even reading this thread. Instead, most of us here have been longtime members of the community, and while we realize that we are partially at fault for not taking the initiative to clean up after our fellow smashers, must you bring that up with each and every sentence?

Then again, there's an interesting point to be made; why are you berating the whole of Norcal for failing to clean up after a choice few, when you keep on mentioning the standard of "no one should have to clean up after anyone else"?

You realize that if you had even mentioned the mess that was there, and said something about having everyone take part in cleaning up before rushing out the door, I can guarantee you that it would have been dealt with. Most people aren't unwilling to clean up the mess (be it their own or others'), they just have to be prodded a bit to do it. You're going to ask "why must we remind them to clean up after themselves?", but that's entirely up to you. You can do the minimum required of you and watch this disaster unfold; or you can go a little beyond what's needed, and achieve a better result.

Get that **** about maturity out of here if you're going to insult the way people were brought up by their parents; you really think that they're going to listen to what you're saying after you go out of your way to insult their mothers?

I agree that perhaps some individuals were overzealous on the issue of trash. I would expect that the attendees (no offense to those who did keep track of their food) have the common courtesy to deal with their trash accordingly. But that is an issue gone by, not much can be done about what has already happened. I apologize for any offensive statements that may have been made by other members of the SJSU Computer Science club, because really, while I do find it fun to antagonize others from time to time, this issue should only have gone for possibly two pages at best.

Which brings me to a more important question: How would you recommend we improve the tournament setup? If you have any concerns about food disposal, hygiene, or other matters that may have bothered you during the tournament, please list them and perhaps this discussion can be steered in a more constructive direction to improve not only the experience of the host but also to improve the enjoyment of the people who count: The people attending the event. After all, what is an event with no attendees?

And for the record, I am a student at SJSU as well. Just happened to set aside about 2-3 hours to tidy up the room for the event Friday night by myself. There was quite a bit of trash that is normally left lying around, though I possibly could have gotten more done as far as clean went if I had brought a broom. :D

Hi, I like constructive posts like these. **** gets done when people aren't so overly negative.

But yeah, for future reference at any tournament: Yell for **** to be thrown away before everyone rushes for the door. Don't let people out until the trash is disposed of.

And to people new to the community: CLEAN YOUR **** UP DAMMIT. Also, don't play friendlies on pool TVs if time's an issue and you want to make it out of your pool.

Oh, and for once I'm agreeing with Shroomed about something. Good ****.

 

[NeighborhoodP]

You can do the minimum required of you and watch this disaster unfold; or you can go a little beyond what's needed, and achieve a better result.

Watch out, he's about to go medieval on this misuse of semi-colon!

 

[Shroomed]

get em chris

 

[Ryoto Hikawa]

Actually, we probably couldn't tell until the money was actually counted, honestly. And I would prefer to have confidence in the Smash community's basic morals to not abuse a privilege given to the attendees. But on the note of theft, we would like to say to whoever stole a silver controller from the event that we would like to have it back. Your black controller was worse than the one you took, so we'd rather not have the trade. :d

Edit: Also, on that note, would you guys like easier means of throwing your trash away? Possibly more trash cans placed around the room or something?

 

[Ian]

at first I would like to thank you for such a constructive post.

I think definitely that there should have been more garbage cans or someone should have swapped them out for some new ones because they filled up very fast.

The Glass recycling bin shouldn't have been on the floor above, someone should have brought ti down becuase to expect people to go up a flight of stairs to throw away one bottle is expecting a little much.

Maybe you shouldn't advertise the snacks in the way that you did. This is the first biweekly where trash had been that big of an issue and it was also the first where snacks were advertised.

**EDIT ** NIck just told me the glass bottle thing was on every floor, I was under the impression it was in the "same spot one floor above" like someone was shouting earlier.

 

[Miharu]

Nah. People just need to get it into their heads that they need to walk a few extra steps to throw their trash away in trash cans.

 

[Shroomed]

Actually, we probably couldn't tell until the money was actually counted, honestly. And I would like to have confidence in the Smash community's basic morals to not abuse a privilege given to the attendees. But on the note of theft, we would like to say to whoever stole a silver controller from the event that we would like to have it back. Your black controller was worse than the one you took, so we'd rather not have the trade. :d

i'm like 2000% percent sure someone grabbed the wrong controller on their way out

and if me, the blackest guy at the tourney, didn't steal money
i doubt that anyone else did

quick question, are all of you CS people just taking turns making accounts to say the same things over and over?

and why do like 90% of all of you post like you're being graded

some 'o us po' black folk like to read everyday words instead of stuff like sophomoric

EDIT:

WHEN THE **** DID I GET OVER 1,000 POSTS? I WAS GONNA USE MY 1,000TH FOR SOMETHING COOL GOD ***MIT MOTHER****IN *****

 

[Ryoto Hikawa]

Some are making accounts for themselves to talk about it, but I don't think there's been anyone making alts simply to say the exact same thing over and over. And I happened to have this account for a while, just that I did the Lurker Style stuff, yannow?

And I type like this normally on forums regardless of where it is.

 

[pockyD]

i never actually ate or drank anything, but i did notice that the trash can in the hallway was overflowing pretty early on in the day

 

[Shroomed]

lol you guys gotta learn to relax a lil bit

 

[Ryoto Hikawa]

Yeah... I probably should have stopped by on Saturday to drop off some boxes you guys could have used for trash. I noticed Friday night that the glass disposal was getting a bit full. It probably wouldn't have been that bad if the janitors had gotten around to disposing of the glass. Its overfilled today as well even! Putting bottles on top of the disposal container simply because its overfilled inside! :d

 

[NeighborhoodP]

and why do like 90% of all of you post like you're being graded

Cuz they are, yo. they're nerds; performing for others (teachers) is so ingrained into their lifestyle that they can't help it, and their self-aggrandizing condescension comes along for the ride.

And I would prefer to have confidence in the Smash community's basic morals to not abuse a privilege given to the attendees.

Here's the thing: the reason why the CS club is coming off like such noobs is because anyone with normal social tact would know better than to assume this. Ever wonder who the **** are the people who show up smelling like ***? SOCIETY doesn't have all these "basic morals," so why would you expect a subset group to? By expecting that, you come off as elitist a-holes, not exactly the best impression for the host, no matter how right they may be.

 

[Ian]

NeighborhoodP,

Why do you think you have the right to talk in this post?

 

[Ryoto Hikawa]

Like I said, I apologize for any offensive comments that may have been made by other members of the CS Club. I can't control the things that come out of other peoples' mouths. I want to say that they're simply frustrated, but I can't change any opinions that you guys may have of us based on the frustration of certain members.

 

[Shroomed]

because he's P, he knows all

just listen

believe me, you don't want to start a debate with P
you will lose, badly

like i have

 

[SuperRad]

I agree that perhaps some individuals were overzealous on the issue of trash. I would expect that the attendees (no offense to those who did keep track of their food) have the common courtesy to deal with their trash accordingly. But that is an issue gone by, not much can be done about what has already happened. I apologize for any offensive statements that may have been made by other members of the SJSU Computer Science club, because really, while I do find it fun to antagonize others from time to time, this issue should only have gone for possibly two pages at best.

Which brings me to a more important question: How would you recommend we improve the tournament setup? If you have any concerns about food disposal, hygiene, or other matters that may have bothered you during the tournament, please list them and perhaps this discussion can be steered in a more constructive direction to improve not only the experience of the host but also to improve the enjoyment of the people who count: The people attending the event. After all, what is an event with no attendees?

And for the record, I am a student at SJSU as well. Just happened to set aside about 2-3 hours to tidy up the room for the event Friday night by myself. There was quite a bit of trash that is normally left lying around, though I possibly could have gotten more done as far as clean went if I had brought a broom. :D

Holy poops, a breath of fresh air.

If these ever happened again I know personally I would monitor the trash situation seeing as it was a Big Effin Deal and I thought it was at most just a regular deal.

If the lost controller is an issue, I will gladly pay out of my pocket for a new one at the next smash tournament in the club room. [Plus, wasn't money taken out of the pot for the club?]

 

[Ryoto Hikawa]

Its alright. Though one piece of equipment may have gone missing, that's all it is, a piece of equipment. We can let it slide, just that we will make note to take inventory of the Club's equipment before the end of the event in any possible future events.

 

[NeighborhoodP]

NeighborhoodP,

Why do you think you have the right to talk in this post?

Why do you think I need yours (or anyone's) so-called "right"?

 

[pockyD]

if someone took the controller but left another one (even if it's a crappy one), i don't see how you can assume malicious intent instead of a simple mistake, especially given the way we were shooed out of the room at the end

though with no future tournament, you probably won't be getting it back, but in normal circumstances, people are happy to rectify their mistakes