Simple facts that you may not know...

[SpeedGhost]

I'm sure alot of pple know this, but I don't think I've ever seen it written down anywhere... So just in case-- you can Usmash out of shield.

 

[Surri-Sama]

I'm sure alot of pple know this, but I don't think I've ever seen it written down anywhere... So just in case-- you can Usmash out of shield.

I think that's in the original manual to be honest

 

[SpeedGhost]

I think that's in the original manual to be honest

lol.. k. I never had the orininal manual, and never saw it mentioned on here... Embarrassing haha

 

[Surri-Sama]

lol.. k. I never had the orininal manual, and never saw it mentioned on here... Embarrassing haha

I'm not 100% on that either.

I just know, that i knew of it prior to coming online

 

[firo]

I'm looking for some data on ledge and edge cancelling. (Are they really different?)

Specifically, can every aerial move be edge cancelled without the help of another character/wind? Is there a minimum x-speed/maximum y-speed required? Does the requirement change depending on the way you are facing?

 

[The Star King]

WTF. I will never understand people who distingish between ledge and edge.

 

[Fish641]

WTF. I will never understand people who distingish between ledge and edge.

You can grab onto a ledge? Dunno

 

[ciaza]

I was always told that a ledge is something you can grab on to, like the furthest points of Hyrule. An edge is the end-point of any walking surface, including platforms.

e.g: Peach's Castle has no ledges but 6 edges.

 

[Glöwworm]

That's a nice way to put it, Ciaza.

 

[The Star King]

Then why is it "edgeguarding" and not "ledgeguarding"?

 

[ciaza]

Because you don't always go for the sweetspot (ledge) when recovering. You can try to go over on to the stage.

All ledgeguarding is edgeguarding but not all edgeguarding involves ledgeguarding.

Or something. It was ages ago when I asked for the difference on the server and that's what I vaguely remember.

 

[blaze3927]

your first attack that hits in the match has a bonus %2 damage.

 

[Fish641]

your first attack that hits in the match has a bonus %2 damage.

Is this true? Is there any additional knockback? Are the theoretically combos that work if you do them at the very beginning of the match, but wouldn't work at any other time?

 

[Battlecow]

your first attack that hits in the match has a bonus %2 damage.

Um... No? Lol?

Are you doing a "made you look" thing, or is it different in (A), or what?

 

[The Star King]

Seems like complete BS to me.

Yesterday, I remembered something I forgot to post here, but I forgot it again >_>

 

[Surri-Sama]

Falcon can double Uair SH

Not sure if it's already said / not known but, i remember there was some going on about it a while ago.

 

[ciaza]

James I think moves going stale are throwing you off.

 

[blaze3927]

well it happens in training mode for sure except % varies
just confirmed it works in vs mode
see
you guys are noobs
go capt falcon. do a uair first time it hits will be 16%
next time it hits until you both die wikll be %12.
happens for all falcons move cept jab\

Pwnd

 

[ciaza]

Yeah but do a nair after that process. First time it hits it will do 16%
Next time only 12%

Just means a move goes stale after the first time you use it.

pwnd ownd

p.s: I made the coolest family tree on desiree forums check it.

 

[Battlecow]

Blaze, did you really not know about stale moves?

Ow.

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

Stale move properties still apply even after you come back from losing your stock.

I think in melee/brawl all moves refresh when you come back to life.

 

[ballin4life]

looks like we can add "stale moves" to the list of simple things you may not know

 

[blaze3927]

Stale move properties still apply even after you come back from losing your stock.

no
...

Touche grasshoppers.
i always presumed stale moves reffered to sex kicks

NICE

links grab changes his hurtbox like dk's taunt. i had a vid on it earlier

 

[Destiny Warrior]

IDK if this is well known(it's a training mode only thing):-

If you stand inside the Hyrule "**** tent", and try to create a Beam Sword, the Sword will be created off the edge and will fall down at once.

 

[ballin4life]

no
...

Touche grasshoppers.
i always presumed stale moves reffered to sex kicks

NICE

links grab changes his hurtbox like dk's taunt. i had a vid on it earlier

we usually just call that the "weak" hitbox. Stale moves are just lower damage/knockback versions of the normal moves, whereas weak moves are entirely different; they even have a different sound effect.

 

[blaze3927]

^^i GUESS that makes sense

is links down a the only move the only A aerial that gives upward momentum (obv only if it hits)?

 

[B Link]

If you have a good enough computer, play with the graphics plugin and turn up some of the quality settings. It makes a BIG difference.

 

[ciaza]

-Chansey and Charmander can be knocked out of the pokemon box.

-There is nothing more satisfying than Falcon uair combos on Giant Donkey Kong.

 

[asianaussie]

On that note, Yoshi U-Tilt knocks Chansey out of the box.

Falcon Punch is actually performed with Falcon's pinky finger. This is probably true.

 

[blaze3927]

On that note, Yoshi U-Tilt knocks Chansey out of the box.

.

and charmander

 

[Sempiternity]

If you're hit by an attack while still in the DI frames of another attack, you don't receive KB from the second attack (Courtesy of SK)

WOW

This explains everything! Whenever my buddy and I do "Donkey killing" where we both pound the crap out of a lone DK, there always seem to be problems in correctly recording who gets the kill.

For example, Kirby will be drilling DK, and Falcon will B-air, sending DK off the edge and dying, yet Kirby gets credited with the kill when Falcon's knockback clearly killed DK.

What's happening here is that between hits of the drill (after the drill's DI frames), the Falcon hit comes in and connects, sending the character flying, but while in those DI frames, Kirby sneaks in one more hit of the drill (knockback-less, so as to not "catch" DK), and so is credited with the kill because Kirby technically hit DK last.

Very interesting...

 

[blaze3927]

the direction your facing when you die will be the direction you face when you come back on the cloud.

you can falcon punch through safrons pokebox

if your charging a samus shot on yoshi's cloud and the cloud fades you will automatically release the charge shot

 

[Sempiternity]

Stick jumps are not a fixed height!

Found this out when playing around with the range and an Xbox controller. Try setting the range somewhere around 55% and mashing up. Then set it to 50% and mash up again, the jump will be slightly lower. I was able to make Falcon land perfectly on a dreamland platform with no extra height doing this.

What exactly does the range/threshold do? It limits the emulated stick movement, so the game doesn't register the stick being pushed as far, right? Which is why if you set it low enough, you won't be able to dash, and high enough that you get disgusting DI. So, stick jumps must be a wide variety of different heights, depending on how far you push the stick (seems nearly impossible to be this precise on console, though).

 

[Zantetsu]

Stick jumps are not a fixed height!

Found this out when playing around with the range and an Xbox controller. Try setting the range somewhere around 55% and mashing up. Then set it to 50% and mash up again, the jump will be slightly lower. I was able to make Falcon land perfectly on a dreamland platform with no extra height doing this.

Can someone confirm this?

 

[Sempiternity]

Can someone confirm this?

I'll make a fancy pants video.

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

semp is right

 

[Zantetsu]

I'll make a fancy pants video.

I don't think I've ever seen you post, so that's why I questioned your statement. A video will also be nice, though.

 

[The Star King]

He posted plenty before, during your break. He took a break himself, which is when you came back lol

I believe him, anyways.

 

[asianaussie]

i always thought that the C-button was just mapping up on the control stick

seems this wasn't common knowledge after all

 

[Zantetsu]

He posted plenty before, during your break. He took a break himself, which is when you came back lol

I believe him, anyways.

Haha, that's funny. Since you and Boom have backed him up, I see no reason not to believe him.