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Side bets for Adam v Scar $500 MM

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Adam M!

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i dont care if im being selfish

but i have supreme doubts that this will happen
me too

i don't want to place myself in a position where unhappy dudes like boback are in a position to disrespect me. i mean, he has nothing to lose. i have much to lose.

to me it's about the spirit of competition. it's not about showing someone up. it's a, hey, i think i'm better than you. i want to put money on myself. but bobby just wants to make it personal and i expunge negative people from my life, i don't enable them.

and maybe most importantly, i think i can accomplish more by just $20-$50 mming 20-50 people rather than 1.5k mming bobby.

you know, i think i have a better idea. i'll talk to jon (plank) about having a money match room or something @ p5. then i can $10-$20 mm every interested party. and i do mean EVERY interested party. and for interested parties that have a resume that speaks for itself (hbox) i can find a way to place odds on myself that everyone agrees with.

that'd be pretty f'n awesome!
 

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and maybe most importantly, i think i can accomplish more by just $20-$50 mming 20-50 people rather than 1.5k mming bobby.
yea ur prolly right

cuz like 500 would be dope

but honestly man that was way too many rules for a money match of that calibur

i mean 5 sets, no recording, no people???

with bread like that on the line you gotta just put the money up and play

the only way u get the money with all the circumstances you want is if you do like you said a 20mm or something

and im like 1000% sure bobby is not making this personal hahaha

i dont even know what he did to be honest

but either way tho

u guys will work it out

good luck adam!
 

Adam M!

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and im like 1000% sure bobby is not making this personal hahaha
actions speak louder than words

it seems like you and miguel's reasons for thinking it is dumb may be because it's exclusive. it is elitist in a sense, and i don't like that part either.

but just because you don't understand my point of view (and didn't bother asking) doesn't mean it's dumb.
 

Atlus8

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It's big money involved so people are gonna wanna see the match! I know that it is your money match and you want it set up the way you wanted, but you said to Mango that he should help out others, yet you don't want your matches to be recorded because people might learn from it! Me confused:confused:
 

Adam M!

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that's a good point miguel! a **** good point!

you're right: this is very egotistical. it cannot be done then!

what do you suggest?
 

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you're right: this is very egotistical. it cannot be done then!
I don't see how one implies the other. I think Atlus' point was about the seeming inconsistency between your advice to Mango and your stipulation that your matches aren't recorded. It doesn't really have any bearing on the MM itself.
 

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but bobby just wants to make it personal
fyi it's not personal for me

i think i'm better than you and i'm willing to bet on myself for $x

if you want to make it less than $500 then i'm not going to ask you to put up that much, whatever you're comfortable with adam

i don't really like how we're all pulling teeth though and it seems like the ONLY big obstacle for making this happen is you

not boback's camera, not that it's (allegedly) "personal" for me, not respect

just you
 

Adam M!

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it's really in your best interest not to ever talk to me again because if we ever meet i fear for your safety

just telling it like it is
 

Adam M!

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how about for every time you respond to me i slap the controller out of your hands whenever i see you playing? call the police on that!

we're at one so far!

heck, how about i just break your controller?

and if you respond to this i'll break your glasses!
 

TaFoKiNtS

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For a person that is so adamant on making fighting a "last resort", you sure love talking about it.

Don't do anything stupid guys and that includes typing threats that are on public records.
 

TaFoKiNtS

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Honestly it's stupid to instigate violence. I would rather have no hitting or other shinanagins occur.

I don't want stupid stuff like this to ruin a perfectly good tourney in which people are traveling from across the country. Imagine if the cops had to come to fudd's and stop the tourney
 

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I agree, I'd much rather see a tournament where Adam and Scar can at least coexist and play friendlies, if not MM.
 

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how about for every time you respond to me i slap the controller out of your hands whenever i see you playing? call the police on that!

we're at one so far!

heck, how about i just break your controller?

and if you respond to this i'll break your glasses!
what is wrong with you lol. I don't get it. ur just joking right, you don't really wanna punch bob do you. why would you punch a guy named bob over smash?
 

Adam M!

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honestly every single person responding negatively to me in this thread (hyuga, tafokints, nintendoking, scar, naota, superrad, frotaz, etc.) is a person i am perfectly okay with not having in my life in any way, form or fashion.

matter of fact when is the last time i needed you guys for ANYTHING? the only person i have the least bit of respect for is sheridan, although i feel he is quite the lost cause. anyone else? take it up with me in person!

none of you have ever said a negative word to me directly either! in other words i consider you all cowards for hiding behind the internet and not facing your fears! yes, i am your fear. actions speak louder than words.

if you don't agree with my actions so be it. i couldn't care less! ignore me! wipe me from your lives! i shall do the same!
 

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the only time I spoke with you was when I asked you if you were neighborhood p, and you said "yea, what of it" and you sounded as if you wanted to fight... lol get ***** me I guess.

I just don't understand why I always perceive you as being violent often for a reason to small to matter to me.
 

TaFoKiNtS

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The fact of the matter is you're bringing this on yourself, Adam.

This is a PUBLIC forum. I don't see how I was being personal or disrespectful. I never attacked you as a person. I said MANY times, that I would like to get to know you as a person in person. I don't get if you're just leveling us with a level of trolling that we can't comprehend.

I don't get why your playing the victim card right now.

If you write the things you're writing, you WILL get a negative response regardless of who you are.
We could simply ignore you, but nonetheless you are writing on a PUBLIC forum. I don't get where you think you have so much entitlement to do things without reaping any consequences whatsoever.

You are also coming to a tourney where most of us are going to be, so whether we like it or not, we can't ignore you, especially with the comments of hitting Scar in this thread. I honestly don't care if you think I think you are a "fear".

If I said this to your face, would that commend more respect? Because I would, given the opportunity, which I haven't had at all.
 

Adam M!

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no you wouldn't! you have my AIM! if you wanted to reach common ground you would talk to me like a man!

like [the real] sheridan said, it's akin to a dog pissing on a tree! you just want to leave your mark. okay, well you have! you've said your peace! i've heard it! we agree to disagree! move on! i sure will after this post!

and don't worry about me coming to tournies! norcal as a whole is nothing but negativity! look at every single player ranked! look through their post history! look how many positive things they have to say? want me to go down the list and do it for you?

i'm amazed kevin is able to be as positive as he is! maybe he hides it well! it's a very short list of respectable, positive dudes in norcal: PHIL, JB, Kevin, Onski, Robert Dollars, Lucien, Rey, Dajuan. Probably the rest of DBR, too; that's why they so rarely post! I have nothing but love for those guys (minus Boback, whom is a drag to you guys), especially Germ, who was man enough to keep me in check when I needed it! <3333
 

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Basically, none of this even matters. What the hell does it matter if Adam does anything irl?(which I doubt will happen again. He's not that stupid) Stop being so serious. If you think a simple threat is so important then surely there are thousands of more important things you should be spending your time on. Also, this has pretty much nothing to do with you guys(except Scar). The fact that Adam doesn't want the mm recorded should reinforce that point.
 

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Believe it or not Adam, a large factor in why I have questioned your words is the fact that I (and I'm sure others feel this way) would prefer to be your friend/acquaintance, given the choice, because we do indeed have respect for you because you seem like a principled person that has goals and wants to self-actualize as well as contribute to others, but your behavior sometimes appears bizarrely schizophrenic in contrast to that, at least online. If I didn't care, I wouldn't say anything, but I'm perfectly willing to admit that I do care, so I hope you are patient enough to have read this far and to continue to read my responses to you.

Disagreeing with someone does not equate to 'responding negatively' or 'disrespect.' We grow as a person by recognizing our personal flaws or irrational beliefs and attempting to correct them. Sometimes it takes others to point them out to us. It's all too easy to live in our own world of rationalizations and believe what we want to believe instead of believing what is true, but if we brush off all criticism as 'negativity,' ignore all disagreement, or refuse to continually criticize ourselves, then we stagnate.

I also feel the need to point out that just because someone's personal circumstances might dispose them to criticizing us, that has absolutely no bearing on the validity of their criticisms; at best it can only explain why they would offer the criticism in the first place. They might be an a$$hole, but that doesn't mean they are wrong. We can't argue by creating a psychological profile of the person we disagree with and then attacking it.

I'm not putting you on blast for the sake of putting you on blast or because it makes me feel good about myself, I'm doing it because I have a genuine disagreement, and I feel it's rather disingenuous of you, not to mention intellectually lazy, to characterize it as just empty negativity. If you were just another douchebag, I would have said little or nothing, but I think friends should always be challenging one another, and be able to do so without fear of indignation or retribution.
 

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Adam: No Brandon or Joe!?

And I really don't want to say much about it unless/until Iget the chance to talk to you on aim or whatever, but threatening violence is really low and not in line with your goals at all.

Also, you frequently talk about how the internet is a prime method of communication, and yet somehow you think public forums are a place where you can't be up front and honest. Why does someone have to AIM you for you to "talk to them like a man"? Just because hella people can read what you say doesn't make what you post any less worthwhile, I think.


Edit: ****, Sheridan, you're like a sexy *** shining god of logic and reason and ****. I gotta finish playing Xenogears. Does Citan ever cut a pineapple? I think I just got to where he gets a sword.
 

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so is adam an immature douche or a troll?
lol

it's really in your best interest not to ever talk to me again because if we ever meet i fear for your safety

just telling it like it is
how about for every time you respond to me i slap the controller out of your hands whenever i see you playing? call the police on that!

we're at one so far!

heck, how about i just break your controller?

and if you respond to this i'll break your glasses!
fyi any violence towards another person at my tournament is not tolerated. i will quickly regulate and fuuck anyone the fuuck up, including you adam.

Disagreeing with someone does not equate to 'responding negatively' or 'disrespect.' We grow as a person by recognizing our personal flaws or irrational beliefs and attempting to correct them. Sometimes it takes others to point them out to us. It's all too easy to live in our own world of rationalizations and believe what we want to believe instead of believing what is true, but if we brush off all criticism as 'negativity,' ignore all disagreement, or refuse to continually criticize ourselves, then we stagnate.
 
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