Meta Shulk Match-Ups: Directory/General Discussion – Engage the Enemy

[Lord Xanthan]

I'll vote for Kirby . I played against one on FG once and it was pretty tough when he copied my Monado Arts. My second choice would be Olimar . I have a difficult time fighting Olimars but I kind of feel like he's a problem for me regardless of which character I use.

 

[erico9001]

I'll vote for Kirby . I played against one on FG once and it was pretty tough when he copied my Monado Arts.

You're in luck, this is actually one of this week's match-ups!
http://smashboards.com/threads/kirby-match-up-thread-kirby-sucks.388215/#post-18497614

My second choice would be Olimar . I have a difficult time fighting Olimars but I kind of feel like he's a problem for me regardless of which character I use.

I'll mark down Olimar.

 

[foolssigma]

Haven't posted here before.... Can I just vote for Pikachu for next week's matchup? Good Pikachu players can be tricky

 

[Berserker.]

I say we talk about +1

Like there are over 9999 Links on For Glory and my training buddy is a Link/Mega Man/Ike player so yeah

 

[Berserker.]

I'm going to count the Sheik match up as concluded. Anyone can bring it up if they want by just posting in the thread. Score is at +0

 

[erico9001]

I forgot to post this yesterday: I vote Link, let's do Link. I think now is the prime time with that discussion of the jab lock.

 

[Berserker.]

Well that was disappointing but I'm gonna conclude Link and Kirby's match up (bring it up against if you want). It's been 3 days since the Link discussion but there haven't been any comments other than mine (I guess I summarized well enough?)

Voting for now

 

[spiderfreak1011]

My vote goes to aswell. I got wrecked by a good one really badly on For Glory, even with Shulk. Hell, if it wasn't for my spacing and Buster, i wouldn't have come close to winning near the end (even tho i still lost). So, definitely want the deets on Pikachu. I hadn't realized until recently how good he actually is.

 

[Berserker.]

has been reopened (case for -1 or -2)
has been reopened (case for +0 or -1)

 

[spiderfreak1011]

has been reopened (case for -1 or -2)
has been reopened (case for +0 or -1)

Is this because of that discussion on the social thread? : 3

 

[Berserker.]

Is this because of that discussion on the social thread? : 3

I've brought these cases up for a while now

 

[Chickenmcdonky]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agTPENb_1gY

Don't know if you guys have seen this yet. Apparently it's inescapable for Shulk. Fox was already a tough nut to crack, so this is going to make for an even rougher ride.

 

[Berserker.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agTPENb_1gY

Don't know if you guys have seen this yet. Apparently it's inescapable for Shulk. Fox was already a tough nut to crack, so this is going to make for an even rougher ride.

This was already discussed here

http://smashboards.com/threads/this...-use-monado-arts.369285/page-39#post-18547113

 

[Kirby Phelps (PK)]

What should Shulk do against a Fox.....or any fast character in general. It seems like no matter what I do, they'll always attack first because Shulk's attacks come out so freakin slow. So if I just get assaulted with a barrage of attacks, it's very hard to escape.

 

[Berserker.]

What should Shulk do against a Fox.....or any fast character in general. It seems like no matter what I do, they'll always attack first because Shulk's attacks come out so freakin slow. So if I just get assaulted with a barrage of attacks, it's very hard to escape.

Once they get up close, your option is to pivot then f-tilt or f-smash, shield then grab, or jab. Those are your most reliable options. You should work hard to keep a distance between fast characters and yourself by taking advantage of your range. Practice spacing

 

[MetalMario128]

As a Shulk fighting King Dedede, one who constantly fires Gordos (like as soon as the last one disappears he throws another)? I try to sling them back at him, but he just shields them and then throws out another. I try to get in with Speed for Grabs, but I usually have to duck under a Gordo, which usually doesn't end well, or go over it, which ends up with me being grabbed. Any general tips on how to approach and guard?

As for the voting, gonna go with . Kirby doesn't really give me much trouble.

 

[FullMoon]

Hello, it's Shulk time in the Greninja boards, so we would appreciate any inputs given by you guys if you really feel like you can contribute some: http://smashboards.com/threads/mast...cina-shulk-sword-mii-2-17-2-23.369356/page-12

 

[Berserker.]

Hello, it's Shulk time

This guy made a meme out of our character. Burn him on a stake

jk. I posted something for you guys

 

[Oracle_Summon]

Just fought a Shulk earlier as Toon Link and I was curious as to what Shulk's options would have been in the match up?

I had a bomb handy when Shulk visioned me to prevent getting launched and follow up with my down smash to punish Shulk's ending frames from Vision. Plus I had a boomerang following from the back, ready to bail me out and keep Shulk on his toes.

I also discovered that visioning Shulk with an arrow can bait him to attack you.

 

[Berserker.]

Shulk isn't suppose to vision any projectile in the fist place. If anything, he should have forward visioned it if he's close enough because that's much quicker and it doesn't allow for punishment

Vision doesn't play an important role in the match up. It's speed art or jump art against projectiles. Shulk's main objective is to rush in with speed or jump. Buster only becomes relevant once Shulk is close enough OR you can remain in speed or jump if you want. N-air and f-air are Shulk's tools to neutralize TL's projectiles. B-air also works but the positioning/spacing must be precise.

 

[Garde Noir]

I'd love a Rosalina match-up. This is partly selfish because I play her as well, but even as playing her, I find her incredibly difficult, engaging is tricky, and I'd love to contribute to a whole board discussion about how to beat her, especially if I can input how I would approach as Shulk as Rosie.

 

[Berserker.]

I'll switch to Rosalina also since I've been informed that no one in the Pikachu boards knows about the match up. I do fear that there will be some heated debates but eh. That's the (usual) nature of match up discussions. Plus, I'll be watching all of you

+1

OP updated

 

[Lord Xanthan]

I guess I'll switch my vote from Olimar to Rosalina and Luma as well. People play as her a lot so it would be a good idea to understand the matchup.

 

[Berserker.]

OP has been updated again. Pikachu has 2 votes and Rosalina has 3 votes

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

I'll vote for Rosalina as well. She's a prominent threat in the metegame so knowing how to deal with her is important.

 

[Mrawesome48]

So I've been playing a lot of shulks and the biggest issue im having is dealing with neutral air. I'm finding it extremely difficult to punish

 

[Nammy12]

So I've been playing a lot of shulks and the biggest issue im having is dealing with neutral air. I'm finding it extremely difficult to punish

A shield grab should shut down most of his aerials unless its being spaced that only the beam hits the shield.

 

[spiderfreak1011]

I'll vote for Rosalina aswell, i have a good idea on the Match up from fighting a friend who mains her. + 1

BTW, in case this does happen...I summon @ Parcheesy to help us discuss this match up. : 3

 

[Parcheesy]

I'll vote for Rosalina aswell, i have a good idea on the Match up from fighting a friend who mains her. + 1

BTW, in case this does happen...I summon @ Parcheesy to help us discuss this match up. : 3

It's one of my favorite matchups actually, and I definitely have plenty to say about it. If you ever want me to post my essay, just poke me again on my profile or something and I'll scoot back into the thread.

Oh, and of course, if anyone wants some Rosalina practice, I'm usually available weeknights until 11 EST or so. Otherwise, just shoot me a conversation and we can work out a time. I'd love to sit down and work out specific matchup mechanics too if anyone wants to do that sort of thing.

 

[spiderfreak1011]

It's one of my favorite matchups actually, and I definitely have plenty to say about it. If you ever want me to post my essay, just poke me again on my profile or something and I'll scoot back into the thread.

Oh, and of course, if anyone wants some Rosalina practice, I'm usually available weeknights until 11 EST or so. Otherwise, just shoot me a conversation and we can work out a time. I'd love to sit down and work out specific matchup mechanics too if anyone wants to do that sort of thing.

Sure thing, we'll let you know when a thread is made.

Also, it's one of your faves? I can imagine, given how his range gives Rosalina a challenge and lets Shulk get in easier. Plus, Buster and Smash make things even more hype. : 3

BTW, nice icon.

 

[Berserker.]

I'm going to boot up the Rosalina discussion soon. I also have my own essay on this. This is also one of my favorite match ups <3

Edit:

Done

http://smashboards.com/threads/rosalina-match-up-discussion-cosmic-buster.393010/

 

[MonadoNoodles]

I would hope at some point Ness can be discussed because it is my worst matchup D:. +1

 

[Berserker.]

OP updated. Also, voting for since he's legit in this game (and I main him also)

 

[Artryuu]

I vote for . Would like read about this match.

 

[Piford]

I wanna hear what you guys think of the matchup.

 

[Berserker.]

The Rosalina match up.... seems to be about done? Well, we got two 0's and one -1.... Hmm... I guess most of us are okay with the being +0 ?

The again, bring up the discussion by bumping the thread. The scores in the OP are open to change anytime.

 

[Linkmario00]

I vote for next. There are a lot in FG, and I think Shulk's biggest problem is vs fast running charachters.

 

[Berserker.]

OP updated. Votes are spread out so far

 

[erico9001]

I'm not sure what to rate the MU's thanks to the MALLC AT. I've not mastered that technique (I know how to do it very well, but have not practiced it much), and it probably decently helps out Shulk's match-ups.

 

[Scarhi]

My vote goes to +1

I've been having lots of problems with this MU lately. Falcon can really mess with our spacing using his dashgrab and also has the tools to keep us in a bad position from there.