Shotokan Dojo - Ryu Social Thread

[swordsman09]

Here's the Shin Shoryuken:

Is that the lightning from Third Strike?!

 

[Zef]

https://mega.co.nz/#!bUZWWS5S!BUjsPSIunhvll_M9qO8pujD2wfcg4ouGC7aQk4TOaL8 here's the VOD that was taken down. 2 hours, lots of ryu. 60 fps

 

[PokemonyeWest]

I'm workin gon uploading the ~18 minute VOD to YouTube that first showcased Ryu's moves

 

[smokebomb12]

Would he be heavy or light?

What VOD?

 

[Deleted member]

Would he be heavy or light?

I feel like Ryu will be right around 's weight, maybe a tad heavier.

 

[smokebomb12]

Whats a VOD?

 

[Wintropy]

Honestly, what I'm most hyped for is just shouting the names of his moves.

The games room is going to become a shouting contest of "HADOOOOUKEEEEN!" and "SETSUMETSUGAFLOOGAN!"

 

[smokebomb12]

NOOOOO! I just thought of some thing terrible! For glory mode is full of little kids who like to spam right? and Ryu's hadouken is a projectile that shoots a lot, right?

For glory mode.

 

[Zajice]

Whats a VOD?

Video on demand. Generally it's just a recording of a stream.

 

[PokemonyeWest]

NOOOOO! I just thought of some thing terrible! For glory mode is full of little kids who like to spam right? and Ryu's hadouken is a projectile that shoots a lot, right?

For glory mode.

It's not like his fireballs will be or ever have been OP or uncounterable. But I can't wait to punish jump ins with DP

 

[swordsman09]

NOOOOO! I just thought of some thing terrible! For glory mode is full of little kids who like to spam right? and Ryu's hadouken is a projectile that shoots a lot, right?

For glory mode.

I doubt that'll actually work this time. You have so much space to move around in Smash. Plus there's dodging for anyone with a brain and/or over the age of 5.

 

[smokebomb12]

yes but you know how bad FG can b

 

[Deleted member]

Oh I imagine the spammy kids that think Hadouken is the shortcut to winning will get stomped nice and hard.

I wouldn't worry about it.

 

[Nexin]

NOOOOO! I just thought of some thing terrible! For glory mode is full of little kids who like to spam right? and Ryu's hadouken is a projectile that shoots a lot, right?

For glory mode.

If hadoukens work the same way here as it does in SF4, Ryu can only have one on the screen at a time. If that is this case, he won't be able to spam it.

Also, literally every character in MvC3 was designed to be rediculously broken on purpose, so that version of Ryu probably won't have much of an effect on his design.

 

[Wintropy]

I was kinda sad that there's no Ken alt.

Then I figured out the origin of the alt colours in Street Fighter II.

I kek'd.

Based Samurai.

 

[Game&Watcher]

It's a shame that there are only going to be two songs on Ryu's Stage (three versions of each, but still only two). Despite that, I just learned that both sound great together:

 

[Space Stranger]

Question: Is here to be a family man?

A friend of mine wanted me to ask.

 

[Nexin]

Question: Is here to be a family man?

A friend of mine wanted me to ask.

Only after getting beaten up by Guile, and the closest we got to that here is the Mario of America.

 

[Ffamran]

Ryu's going to bring so much hype whenever he lands a Shoryuken kill. People get hyped about Mega Man's Mega Upper, but I don't know if Mega Man can set one up while Ryu? Ryu's going to cancel into his Shoryuken and be all... SHORYUKEN!

 

[BlueTerrorist]

My body wasn't ready.... IT WASN'T READY!!!

 

[Space Stranger]

A Chun Li assist trophy would have been the best.

 

[StormC]

Mario and Link vs. Mega Man and Ryu is going to be pretty god damn amazing.

 

[Ffamran]

My body wasn't ready.... IT WASN'T READY!!!

IT WON'T BE READY WHEN THIS HAPPENS TO YOU!

 

[RADSheikah]

A Dan Hibiki assist trophy would have been the best.

FTFY

 

[PokemonyeWest]

I'm workin gon uploading the ~18 minute VOD to YouTube that first showcased Ryu's moves

In case anyone hasn't seen it or can't access Twitch -- https://youtu.be/j7-f501mbfQ

Things of note (Percentages don't account for staling outside of Training Mode):

Shinku Hadouken has a vacuum effect
Only one Hadouken on screen at a time
Normal Hadouken does 5%
Strong Hadouken does 6%
Shankunetsu Hadouken hits five times and does 8%
Tatsu appears to do different damage % depending on when the move hits. Seems stronger near the end. Beginning can hit opponents who miss a tech.
Weak Tatsu does 10%
Strong Tatsu does 12%
Beginning of Weak Tatsu does 8%
Level 3/Fully Charged Focus Attack does 17%
Jab Combo does 10%
Ledge Attack does 7%
Down Throw does 9%
Back Throw does 12%
Up Throw does 8%
F-Smash (Joudan Kick) does 16% uncharged, 22% charged
U-Smash (Crouch Fierce/Mexican DP) does 17% uncharged, 23% charged
D-Smash (Crouch Roundhouse) does 22% charged
Fair does 13% and quite a bit of knockback
Strong F-Tilt (Far Stand Roundhouse) does 10%
Weak F-Tilt (Far Standing Forward) does 6%
Strong D-Tilt (Crouching Forward) does 7%
Nair (Jumping Jab) does 12%
Normal Shoryuken does 15%
Strong Shoryuken does 18%, no landing lag

 

[Neo Zero]

Oh I imagine the spammy kids that think Hadouken is the shortcut to winning will get stomped nice and hard.

I wouldn't worry about it.

On that note, I want to see how Shakunetsu Hadoken works against projectiles. I mean it multihits, so maybe it flat out beats other projectiles while only taking a point of durability loss.

 

[RADSheikah]

Could someone by chance tell me the best way to set up my controls for Ryu for SSF43D so I can learn the combos better and apply them easier to Smash?

 

[cmbsfm]

How I imagine most for glory Ryu players will be like(made by your's truly):

 

[swordsman09]

How I imagine most for glory Ryu players will be like(made by your's truly):

Nah. Just from watching that video (https://youtu.be/j7-f501mbfQ), I don't think so. It seems to go very slowly and doesn't even go fullscreen. It's as if the fireball stops at where the wall would end in Street Fighter.

 

[Kisatamura]

I feel like Ryu will be right around 's weight, maybe a tad heavier.

I actually hope his weight is straight at 100 like Lucario and the default Mii Fighters, since Ryu is supposed to be a well-balanced character.

 

[Big-Cat]

Could someone by chance tell me the best way to set up my controls for Ryu for SSF43D so I can learn the combos better and apply them easier to Smash?

Don't bother. Muscle memory will screw you over. Just know the cr.mk into hadouken and tatsu are going to be your big combos.

 

[Ura]

Grats on the conformation guys. Even though i'm much more hyped about Roy, Ryu in Smash is still really hype and is a great choice for 3rd party DLC.

I haven't watched any of the trailers because I don't want to get spoiled. Can anyone tell me if theirs a Ken alt for Ryu?

 

[Deleted member]

On that note, I want to see how Shakunetsu Hadoken works against projectiles. I mean it multihits, so maybe it flat out beats other projectiles while only taking a point of durability loss.

Some quick predictions for that (IMO):

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Beats:

- Uncharged arrow
- Uncharged arrow
- Thunder up to Elthunder
- Mechakoopa (destroys it, shall we say)
- Uncharged/low charge Water Shuriken.
- PK Fire
/ - Fire Breath/Flamethrower.
- Low Charge Shot.
- Thunder Jolt.
- Uncharged arrow
- Lower charge Shadow Ball
- Needles
- Laser
- Laser
- Gordo (this is a given though)
- Crash Bomb
- Fireball/Pill
- Fireball
- Peanut Popgun/Banana
- Low/Uncharged Paralyzer
- Luma Shot (damages Luma and ends Luma Shot, save for Full Charge when Luma is invincible afaik)
- Low charge Sun Salutation, Soccer Ball (Header)
- Low charge Aura Sphere


Beats/Clanks Borderline (unsure atm):
- Uncharged Arrow
- Metal Blade (feel like it would beat Metal Blade though)
- Clay Pigeon (beats if Pigeon hasn't been shot, Clanks if it is being shot)
- Grenade (leaning towards Hadouken winning)


Clanks:
- Boomerang, Fully Charged Arrow.
- Boomerang, Fully Charged Arrow.
- Uncharged/Low Charge Cannonball.
- Autoreticle.
- Pikmin (kills Pikmin but they fully absorb it)
- All Fruits from the Orange up, loses to Key.
- Gyro
- Middle charge Shadow Ball.
- Middle charge Water Shuriken.
- Middle charge Charge Shot.
- Middle charge Sun Salutation
- Middle charge Aura Sphere (depends on Aura)
- Fully charged Paralyzer
- Arcthunder
- Fully Charged Arrow


Clanks/Loses Borderline (unsure atm):
- Egg Throw


Loses:

- Fully charged N-B specials (higher levels of charge as well possibly)
- Bombs (tentatively, the multi-hit may cause a clank, same for Toon Link)
- Bombs
- Arcfire (Will stop Arcfire but Arcfire stays out on the field), Thoron.
- Trick Shot (Can)

N/A:
- Laser; I'm pretty sure the laser just passes through most projectiles, at least when full, not sure though. (???)

Varies:
- Turnip; unsure of the collision properties of Turnips overall although barring some anomalous behavior Stitchface and Dotface both win, lower levels mostly lose or clank.

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A lot of this is probably really optimistic (or maybe pessimistic depending on how you look at it), as well as completely arbitrary, but this is just what I was thinking off the top of my head and I fun with this little piece of "theorycrafting", for lack of a better term.

And yeah I probably missed some projectiles here and there but I was just going from the top of my head as I said, and I skipped because I don't know very much about their moveset, although I imagine their projectiles are similar to the rest of the cast and can be related as such since a lot of the Mii's sets take heavy inspiration from the rest of the cast for their moves.

 

[PokemonyeWest]

Ryu does a ****ton of damage and doesn't seem to have problems killing either. His biggest problem seems to be recovery but he DOES have an invincible DP that also has a hitbox and can kill.

I wonder if Tatsu goes through other projectiles.

 

[Gene]

How I imagine most for glory Ryu players will be like(made by your's truly):

I can see kids on miiverse complaining how they can't do the quarter circle inputs.

 

[DavemanCozy]

Ryu is looking like a very technical character. I love characters like him, tons of potential I see with him

 

[cmbsfm]

In case anyone hasn't seen it or can't access Twitch -- https://youtu.be/j7-f501mbfQ

I heard they were claiming ryu videos on youtube, careful man.

 

[PokemonyeWest]

Ryu is looking like a very technical character. I love characters like him, tons of potential I see with him

The fact he requires execution already makes him the most complex character in the game

I heard they were claiming ryu videos on youtube, careful man.

Haha at worst they'll delete it or send me a message telling me to delete it. YouTube Partners get pretty lax treatment about this sort of thing.

 

[Zajice]

Sheik's grenade is designed to bounce off projectiles, and it makes it explode faster and do more damage. Hadouken probably isn't gonna beat it.

 

[Neo Zero]

Ryu does a ****ton of damage and doesn't seem to have problems killing either. His biggest problem seems to be recovery but he DOES have an invincible DP that also has a hitbox and can kill.

I wonder if Tatsu goes through other projectiles.

To be fair, it looks like if you jump and do the qcb Tatsu input, you do the roflcopter from Super Street Fighter IV

(can't find a video of it in a not modded game but it's basically this)

Either way I saw something that looked the exact same on one of the gameplay videos where he rose up diagonally like this doing the Tatsu.

EDIT: Here's what I mean in Smash Terms. If the embed timestamp doesn't work, just watch at 12:44, happens about there