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Shining Force II Mafia || Game Over! Who lived happily ever after?

Jdietz43

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Felipe: Why. I'm not going to just let you walk on this like a sheep. That's exactly what I was most afraid of. And why NOT Red Ryu, keeping in mind he's the one who called for ultimatums, cop claims, and dropped his case on Swiss which he promised at suspect times while I've been nothing but consistent. (I don't know if I've been good, but at least I know I've been consistent since all I've been doing is being me)
 

Jdietz43

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If you think you get a free pass on me just because Swiss and Ryker are tunneling: YOU DON'T. If you're going to lynch me you're at least going to have to give town some information to work off of when it's done
 

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I dont tnink anyone is scum at this point, but your linch gives a lot more of information than his lynch. Both of you (and me LoL) have been antitown, not scum per se, but your lynch gives a lot more info than RR lynch (almost none) or my lynch (none at all)
 

Jdietz43

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(That's a very scummy thing of you to say Ryker, but I'm not that surprised)

My lynch gives more info than Ryu's? I don't think so in the least. All I've been doing is trying to play good mafia the way I know how, Ryu actually knows enough about who you all are to make informed decisions, if anything his reads on flip should be worth much more than mine. Right now you'd be throwing that away on a loose cannon.
 

#HBC | Ryker

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(That's a very scummy thing of you to say Ryker, but I'm not that surprised)

My lynch gives more info than Ryu's? I don't think so in the least. All I've been doing is trying to play good mafia the way I know how, Ryu actually knows enough about who you all are to make informed decisions, if anything his reads on flip should be worth much more than mine. Right now you'd be throwing that away on a loose cannon.
Really, what do you get out of Ruy's flip?
 

Jdietz43

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Dinner calls, so I'm gone for now. But if anyone thinks I'm going softly into that good night they're sorely mistaken, I already made that mistake at the beginning of this game and it's not about to happen again.
 

#HBC | Ryker

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Ditz, buddy, friend.

You've made a crucial mistake in your line of reasoning. Right now, your only hope lies in your defenders. Your play has been consistently scummy and you've done more than enough to bury yourself.

You can squirm all you want, but I already have what I need.

I will bury you.
 

No Lynch

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Ryker and Swiss, #1350? You didn't really answer me.

Haha dietz come down man it's all good. Swiss and Ryker may have the noob tribe on their side, but we still have the votes for a Ryu lynch. We just pretty much need to wait for Rockin and Kuz.
 

#HBC | Ryker

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Ryker and Swiss, #1350? You didn't really answer me.

Haha dietz come down man it's all good. Swiss and Ryker may have the noob tribe on their side, but we still have the votes for a Ryu lynch. We just pretty much need to wait for Rockin and Kuz.
I don't like answering loaded questions.

Now, seeing as you're sold on Ditz town, care to share why?
 

No Lynch

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come down
What is with my typing lately

calm*

@Ryker: wut how is it a loaded question? I'm asking if you would agree to one of them claiming. I figured you didn't want Felipe to claim because you had a null-town read on him. I'm trying to determine if you would be ok with one of your scum reads claiming.
 

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Alright lol, I was just ready to die in hero mode if I was going to. At least then there'd be some concrete last reads if everything went belly up
 

#HBC | Ryker

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@Ryker: wut how is it a loaded question? I'm asking if you would agree to one of them claiming. I figured you didn't want Felipe to claim because you had a null-town read on him. I'm trying to determine if you would be ok with one of your scum reads claiming.[/B]
What cause do I have? I'm still advocating one lynch and one lynch only.

What reason do I have to support a claim from another player? It lessens my grip on the game by making it look like I'm willing to compromise which I'm almost certain was your intention.
 

No Lynch

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Uh no, you're paranoid my friend. I'm not sure why you would think having more than one scum pick indicates you don't have a grip on the game.

We already know you don't have a grip on the game because you're voting dietz.
 

No Lynch

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I was playing with the idea of having those who don't care to be participant in the game, simply claim. That's all, no hidden motive to make you slip up.

@mod: request mod kill on DH
 

#HBC | Gorf

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Skimmed. Is there really anything I missed? Seems like just more Dietz lynch v Ruy lynch... I'll be back on later tonight if anything but can I have like a summary of what's been going on?
 

#HBC | Red Ryu

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@Everyone: If you're still voting for me I beg you to reconsider, I will not have this lynch day wasted on me when there have been so many other suspects bouncing around. I know it's weird and awkward because it's basically two buddies on the block right now and people have mixed feelings about us both, but I don't know what else I can do at this point. I already spilled my guts, my name, my role, my thoughts, even fixed my own play when I realized it wasn't helpful and Miller was going to backfire. There's two other other things I can think of that would help prove my position, and that's either to have Rockin nameclaim since his is connected to mine, or to wait out a night and have a tracker confirm I'm Miller for people (which most of you on the Dietz wagon probably aren't willing to wait for)

Basically I don't want a vote wasted just because the most influential player in the game is tunneling on me super hard, because right now that's basically what's happening. I can't say Ryu is my first of first choice to lynch but if it's him or me I'm going to choose him. Most of the case has already been presented in a prettier way than I can probably rephrase, coming to a climax when he called for an ultimatum and a cop claim. The only real new input I can put on this is just touchy feely bro stuff, that I don't feel like he's acting like I normally know him to act from when we hang out etc. but I know anyone super hard on my wagon probably won't care.

Since I'm the one up for grabs, now is the time to ask me something: ask me anything: what I did, how I played, why I'm so stupid, whatever; especially if you aren't sure about me.
I can't defend this anymore.

I support the lynch.
 

No Lynch

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You're only saying this because it's between you and him. You've been on his side all game.


Orbo: You said that the reason you are voting dietz is for connections right? Because he has interacted with everyone in the game? The same goes for Ryu. Everyone, but perhaps you and Felipe, have given an opinion on Ryu. On top of that, Ryu is actually scummy. There's little benefit you get from a town flip. The connections you can get are minimal because they people pushing. You gain much more upon a scum flip. Since Ryu has shown more scum motive, his lynch is definitely more beneficial. If you agree with this reasoning, please switch and stop blindly following Swiss and Ryker's manipulation.
 

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Orbo: You said that the reason you are voting dietz is for connections right? Because he has interacted with everyone in the game? The same goes for Ryu. Everyone, but perhaps you and Felipe, have given an opinion on Ryu. On top of that, Ryu is actually scummy. There's little benefit you get from a town flip. The connections you can get are minimal because they people pushing him can simply be wrong where as upon a scumflip you can see the people who avoided lynching him by giving shady reasoning. You gain much more upon a scum flip. Since Ryu has shown more scum motive, his lynch is definitely more beneficial. If you agree with this reasoning, please switch and stop blindly following Swiss and Ryker's manipulation.
 

#HBC | Red Ryu

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You're only saying this because it's between you and him. You've been on his side all game.


Orbo: You said that the reason you are voting dietz is for connections right? Because he has interacted with everyone in the game? The same goes for Ryu. Everyone, but perhaps you and Felipe, have given an opinion on Ryu. On top of that, Ryu is actually scummy. There's little benefit you get from a town flip. The connections you can get are minimal because they people pushing. You gain much more upon a scum flip. Since Ryu has shown more scum motive, his lynch is definitely more beneficial. If you agree with this reasoning, please switch and stop blindly following Swiss and Ryker's manipulation.
Where did this come from?
 
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