Shining Force II Mafia || Game Over! Who lived happily ever after?

[No Lynch]

That's how Swiss & Ryker play as both town and scum, Ryu you know that. Would you not call Swiss' 3 gambits a form of manipulation? Swiss knows he can control everything Orbo does.

 

[Jdietz43]

lolwut? When HAVEN'T they been manipulating the game. It's the core reason I've got them pegged as scum. Swiss tried three different gambits, one that involved claims of cheating, all to try and push my lynch and has pressured basically everyone in the game at one point or another. Swiss has been bullying everyone under the sun to vote with him or die since post 1. LITERALLY since post 1.

 

[Jdietz43]

1. ~Bleck Mang~ (J/Gord Hydra) - Have you learnt to follow me blindly, or are you determined to try and become average?
2. dabuz - Who are you? Have we played before? Provide links to any previous DGames games.
3. July - You're easy to read. Forget what was said in the ranking thread. I'll have you pinned after a few posts. My question to you would be, how long til you have me pinned?
4. Rockin - Say something interesting. Poignant.
5. Bardull - I hear you're bad. Is this only as a certain alignment, or are merely incompetent?
6. Dark Horse -Is it of concern that you are transparent? If you had to vote either myself or Ryker now - why would it be Ryker?
7. Swiss - I understand you're the best player on DGames. Tell me, though, are you theatrical?
8. Orboknown - Ask me one question. Anything other than my role/alignment. My answer will be true and concise - question must be your next post.
9. Jdietz43 - You are who?
10. felipe_9595 - Do as I say.
11. Red Ryu - What is your game plan? Go in depth. Are you suspicious of NL (No Lynch)
12. No Lynch (Zen/Soup Hydra) - Speak.
13. Ryker - Shall we tell them? Admit or deny? I could out us now.

See, this is why you're the other pick today for people RR. I've probably been playing questionably to the veteran eye, but you've just been straight up ignorant.

 

[Jdietz43]

First, freaking, post.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

That's how Swiss & Ryker play as both town and scum, Ryu you know that. Would you not call Swiss' 3 gambits a form of manipulation? Swiss knows he can control everything Orbo does.

So you think they are scum?

 

[vanderzant]

@mod: If DH doesn't post by the deadline can he be replaced?

If he doesn't post by the deadline I will most certainly look for a replacement.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

lolwut? When HAVEN'T they been manipulating the game. It's the core reason I've got them pegged as scum. Swiss tried three different gambits, one that involved claims of cheating, all to try and push my lynch and has pressured basically everyone in the game at one point or another. Swiss has been bullying everyone under the sun to vote with him or die since post 1. LITERALLY since post 1.

Not really a scum tell in the end.

I hate Swiss for doing those gambit since I think they are ******** and how I dislike Swiss' arrogant play style of how he wants people to sheep him, a lot.

But it's not a scum tell in itself unless you can see what his intent is. Which after his case on you, I don't think is scum.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

If he doesn't post by the deadline I will most certainly look for a replacement.

Fair enough.

 

[Jdietz43]

Not really a scum tell in the end.

I hate Swiss for doing those gambit since I think they are ******** and how I dislike Swiss' arrogant play style of how he wants people to sheep him, a lot.

But it's not a scum tell in itself unless you can see what his intent is. Which after his case on you, I don't think is scum.

From my perspective it is, especially such bully tactics, but right now that's a side point.

The problem here is how you say you can't see what NL is saying when he talks about Swiss/Ryker game manipulation, then immediately say that you feel Swiss has been arrogantly asking people to sheep him a lot and don't think that's a problem for the rest of us. That's why we can't see you as legit right now that's it's come to me vs. you. Also you're probably wearing the hat, (inside joke lol).

 

[Jdietz43]

*that it has


You're all over the place, especially on the topic of me and Swiss who I recall you having a wonderful write up planned for until awhile back when you suddenly dropped it. It's that sort of thing that makes you seem so suspect of a scum flip.

 

[vanderzant]

Dark Horse has been notified that he will be replaced/modkilled if he doesn't post before the deadline.

A deadline is set for Midnight 03/05/11 EST. This is in approximately 3 days time.

With 13 Alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Red Ryu has been Silenced, and any votes they cast will not be counted for the remainder of the Day!

Voting (12):
Jdietz43 (5): Swiss, Ryker, Bleck Mang, Orboknown, felipe_9595
Red Ryu (4): July, Jdietz43, dabuz, No Lynch
dabuz (1): Rockin,
Orboknown (1): th3kuzinator
Swiss (1): Dark Horse


Not Voting (1):
Red Ryu

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Don't think a modkill is necesary over a replacement but not my call.

 

[Jdietz43]

(everyone forgive me if this is the wrong move... but)

@Bleck Mang: Gorf, I know you don't like me, but J really does. I also happen to know you both have RR as a major scum suspect. Could I convince you to cut your losses and knock off Ryu rather than stalemate the votes? You'll have your chance at me tomorrow if you're really that dead set, Swiss and Ryker are tunneling too hard on me for them not to bring it back up.

@Orbo: Don't sheep this tunnel, please just don't. Especially not after you talked so much about not sheeping Swiss. I don't know what he saw so bad about Kuz's relation with me but it's making him stick to me like glue longer than anyone ever normally would.

@Kuz: Orbo isn't going anywhere today. Looks like we'll be picking between me and Ryu (and I hope you're still on my side)

@July: I call forth your vast wisdom to help out with the RR case, I don't want my first shot at SWF mafia to be a wasted lynch on me Day 1, and I know you want him rather than me or an inactive.

@Rockin: Just remember Elric always loved you if he gets lynched (lol)


That'll probably be it from me for awhile unless anyone takes me up on that offer to answer stuff
(and please no one take these mini-callouts the wrong way, I'm just trying to play this game right)

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I'm not wearing the Lucario hat right now. Lol.

But I know what you are saying, town shouldn't eat out of their hands all game, but I can't take them being very bully like as a scum tell.

It's being agressive, but is their intent against what town wants? Nothing is a universal scum telll, it's when you suspect they don't support towns best intrest is when it matters, aka killing mafia.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Dat constant stream of AtE.

 

[Jdietz43]

Well obviously I don't think they do have town's interest in mind or I wouldn't consider them scum lol

And it's much easier to tell they're doing something wrong when it's you they're trying to get people to sheep on and you know you're not scum.

(and I could have sworn you were wearing that hat... )

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

the appeals is just disgusting, your appealing to emotion here that is why I hated that post I quoted.

 

[Jdietz43]

Dat constant stream of AtE.

'Dat constant stream of hate.

 

[Jdietz43]

the appeals is just disgusting, your appealing to emotion here that is why I hated that post I quoted.

Then buck up and ask me questions, like I've been asking people to, if you aren't afraid that it'd prove me town and seal your lynch. I'm just trying to get the conversations flowing so no matter who dies today the remaining players have more to work off of

 

[Jdietz43]

(is trying playing aggressive like Swiss)

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

If your town, full read list and where to look if you flip town.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Jay snowtorms suck, i had to shove quite a few times today :/

 

[Jdietz43]

kk

10charizards

 

[Jdietz43]

Jay snowtorms suck, i had to shove quite a few times today :/

(yes they do... :/ but still this winter has been really really mild overall which is nice)

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

yeah it does, it's just odd how in March is just snows randomly, lol.

Tell me about anyone not Swiss, Ryker, you suspect in your read list and why, this is important.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Kuz when you read this tell me about Jay's recent posts.

 

[Jdietz43]

1. ~Bleck Mang~ (J/Gord Hydra): J and Gorf are all over the place asking questions which is good, but they're also all over the place on stances which is bad. It makes them act really schizophrenic on voting opinion, but they also manage to make questioning posts with town intent and insight at the same time. Their interaction with July was the hardest of all to read, but they answered her intense questions convincingly enough for me to lean town. Read: Null leaning town
2. dabuz: First said nothing, then said nothing, then said lots of inane things to fake content after he claimed to have caught up but still seemed clueless, then pretended to have an opinion on me when NL called him out for it for reasons that were so-so. Seemed to have a mini-freakout when he realized RR and Orbo were being called on for voting that I'm not sure what to make of. Read: Dumb or Scum
3. July: Has been doing solid background work, not a whole ton to say about her really. Read: Town
4. Rockin: Should probably post a bit more but town as far as I'm concerned. People had some hesitation when they heard of our neighbor convos but it seemed legit to me, plus his name claim corresponds perfectly to mine and there's no way I could ever believe a role associated with his character flavor is mafia. Read: Town
5. th3kuzinator: Has been doing solid work like July, but closer to the chest. He's been helping me out a lot getting my opinions across which is great just from a personal standpoint for mafia experience. A little stubborn, but that means there's no way he's sheeping Swiss/Ryker and he and NL will be who I'd look to to carry the game through if I die. Read: Town
6. Dark Horse: Popped in once, made a brief scene, left forever. I'd have to base my slot read on whoever replaces him for the most part. Read: Null
7. Swiss: Has been bullhorning the entire game, and not in a nice way. Has tried no less than three different gambits, all of which have been on me. I still suspect the reason for this is simply he saw me as a weak player from back at the start of the game and thinks I'm an easy target and he can get away with it. Bullies everyone to follow him or die, quite literally. Read: Scum
8. Orboknown: Absent from the conversation for an extended period of time, then came in with the intent to sheep Swiss since he didn't really know what was going on. It'd hard for that not to leave a bad impression. He's been doing one or two things since then, but my feelings will probably boil down to whether or not he sides with Swiss on today's lynch. If he does, then heavy suspicion Scum. Otherwise just a slightly awkward townie making accidental scummy opinions.
9. Jdietz43: ... w/e that guy's insane
10. felipe_9595: Barely posts, english not his first language, not great impressions but seems overall more like a very flailing and sheep happy townie rather than scum. Read: Town but useless
11. Red Ryu: I've been weirded out by RR's play so far, he isn't quite playing like the RR I'm used to. He has had some good observations and was even on my side for quite awhile there, but he's been contradicting himself in ways I don't think RR could ever normally make as of late and that callout for an ultimatum didn't leave me with a good feeling. Not my first pick, but game state has sealed that deal for me. Read: Scum-ish, in the same boat as me lol
12. No Lynch (Zen/Soup Hydra): *single teardrop* Read: Town
13. Ryker: Has never had a single constructive comment. His entire postings have consisted of variations on the word "die" and expressing interest in colliding blunt heavy objects with other players. Sheeps Swiss hard, tunnels with him against me equally hard. I have 100% no idea why no one else doesn't like him or has even questioned what he's doing this game in any real depth. Read: Scum if I ever did see one

Bottom line for my flip: You better give a cold hard look at Ryker, Swiss, Dabuz, and RR (with an optional side salad of Orbo depending on how he did during my lynch). Especially when it comes to the relationship between Ryker and Swiss and how willing they are to tunnel, and the suspect relationship between Dabuz and either RR or Orbo.

 

[Jdietz43]

That's about it unless anyone else has some more specific questions, after that I'll leave it to the experts

If that was some sort of crazy lynch trap I'm not aware of then so be it and good on you, the info is out there for town to use

 

[Jdietz43]

(lol if I get played and lynched by Ryu for being an open dude I'm going to sadface... and then slug him irl XP)

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

That post was the perfect scum trap muhahahahahahahaha, nah jk.

I want to know this for reads I'll read more carefully when I'm out with my parents drinking.

Ryker, Swiss, Kuzi, NL, tell me your thoughts on his reads and anything that catches your attention of being off.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

if your town, you can punch me in the face irl for reading you wrong, I promise.

 

[Jdietz43]

if your town, you can punch me in the face irl for reading you wrong, I promise.

Lol! I'm going to hold you to that XP...
(but naaaah, violence was never my thing, plus I can hardly hold it against you personally since you know what a troll I am in irl mafia there's no way you wouldn't be paranoid. Other people not so much since I've been trying hard this game)


On the other hand I will be mildly peeved if I get lynched for trying over you after you posted stuff like this lol, I can't get over that

Where did this come from?

Talking about the last part where he calls out Ryker and Swiss for manipulation.

I hate Swiss for doing those gambit since I think they are ******** and how I dislike Swiss' arrogant play style of how he wants people to sheep him, a lot.

 

[Jdietz43]

(also we apparently just won the count to 200 bob-ombs thread... so suck it! XP)

 

[No Lynch]

dietz never give up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBb8Y5qkVl8

 

[Jdietz43]

dietz never give up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBb8Y5qkVl8

Lol don't worry I never intended to

HYES!! *captain falcon kicks across the forum*

 

[Rockin]

Argh...so much to read....x.x

I can't even take a break for two days without the game going 20+ pages on me...x.x

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I hate One Piece.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Lol! I'm going to hold you to that XP...
(but naaaah, violence was never my thing, plus I can hardly hold it against you personally since you know what a troll I am in irl mafia there's no way you wouldn't be paranoid. Other people not so much since I've been trying hard this game)


On the other hand I will be mildly peeved if I get lynched for trying over you after you posted stuff like this lol, I can't get over that

What is wrong with what I posted here?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I can't defend this anymore.

I support the lynch.

I refuse to believe this one post swung it for you.

 

[Jdietz43]

First you said you didn't understand what NL meant when he said Swiss and Ryker were manipulating the game, then you immediately turned around and complained about all the manipulation they've been doing and how you don't like it.