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Shell Shocked Monthlies -~- College Park, MD -~- 5/8

Eggm

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Boss told me this one at a chu biweekly once. "I asked azen for advice but all I got were tips."
 

Vist

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lol they should call u gfunny


if u OOS guys dont **** this whole **** ill call ur region the nice try-state
 

ChRed2AKrisp

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vist i'll team with you if that's acceptable. I wouldn't actually go double luigi, that's a horrible idea.
 

ChuDat

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What do you guys think of 10$ singles, 5$ teams? It's not set in stone, obviously, and I want to know what people prefer to find a good balance.
I would like it $10 per person for teams, for obvious reasons.

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Why was Pokemon Stadium taken off of random?

Was it because of ****ty azz Sheik players like Plairnkk that b!tched about spacies being too good on that stage?

If so then WTF. Can u guys put it back on? It should obviously be a neutral stage. NOT ONCE has it interfered with my game as an MLG Pro Gamer.

I'd like to see more pro players speak up about this. (EGGM, JMan, Chinesahh, anyone else that is good that is going to this).


EDIT: The Pound4 rule set SHOULD NOT BE A STANDARD FOR ALL MELEE TOURNAMENTS FROM THIS POINT ON.

People should use the rules Genesis used.
 

Plairnkk

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ur an idiot chu, stop being stupid just cuz u have it out for me.

ps is off random cuz its NOT random, its stage striking, and its the least neutral. stop being such a huge ***** *** baby.

i also like how u named 3 fox players to speak up about it. good job chu, way to prove a point

status as a mlg pro gamer? ur not very good anymore chu, u just get carried by novelty. stick to brawl
 

ChuDat

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Ignore Plairnkk, please.

So why isn't Pokemon Stadium a neutral for singles? I'd like to hear the reasons for this and possibly change your mind about it. I strongly believe that the original Melee ruleset was perfect.

These Pound4 rules are just too different and unfair for players.

- There aren't enough counterpicks
- Unfair for Fox/Falco/Falcon/IC players (Pokemon Stadium not a Neutral)
- Unfair for Peach players (Mute city banned)
- These rules probably give a big advantage to Sheik players.
- Daves stupid rule makes it so that Grand Finals will have Finalists playing on ******** stages such as Rainbow Cruise or Brinstar. (Keep in mind that players can/will ban neutral stages.).
- Example: At the last College Park Teams tournament, I ran out of counter pick stages to use, so I was forced to go Kongo Jungle. This should never happen.
- ect......

Like I said, the Pound4 rules are just way too different to be made a standard.
 

KrazyKnux

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If Jman is going, I'm going to have to request a recorded MM against him.

Edit: is there an attendance list of some sort?
 

Plairnkk

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Ignore Plairnkk, please.

So why isn't Pokemon Stadium a neutral for singles? I'd like to hear the reasons for this and possibly change your mind about it. I strongly believe that the original Melee ruleset was perfect.

These Pound4 rules are just too different and unfair for players.

- There aren't enough counterpicks
- Unfair for Fox/Falco/Falcon/IC players (Pokemon Stadium not a Neutral)
- Unfair for Peach players (Mute city banned)
- These rules probably give a big advantage to Sheik players.
- Daves stupid rule makes it so that Grand Finals will have Finalists playing on ******** stages such as Rainbow Cruise or Brinstar. (Keep in mind that players can/will ban neutral stages.).
- Example: At the last College Park Teams tournament, I ran out of counter pick stages to use, so I was forced to go Kongo Jungle. This should never happen.
- ect......

Like I said, the Pound4 rules are just way too different to be made a standard.
I was going to dissect this but yeah you're not even worth it. Everything you say is just so stupid.

FYI these are the MBR's new suggested ruleset, not simply pound 4 rules.



Travis can't make it, anyone wanna win some teams?
 

Wife

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omg I love the Chu/Plank rivalry! I think any animosity makes things interesting.

I don't want to take sides on the dispute, but ftr I think PS should be a random stage.

Tourny should be fun, glad there is OOS interest.

And lastly, I really did LOL at "all I got were tips" reminds me of the H2YL rap -- too good!
 

Plairnkk

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You can keep a counter if you want Chu, I really don't care, lol. Are you trying to argue random is better than stage striking? If not, since you need an odd # of stages for stage striking, do you want to add Kongo Jungle?

Take your argument to the melee back room why don't you?

I like how I respond to your first post in the same manner as you address me, and I respond to all your points and your next post simply says "Don't listen to Plairnkk".

You can't go through life just censoring things you don't want to hear. You're totally two-faced and a moron Chu, I have so much ammo on you that I keep to myself simply out of civility but if you really want to go down this road we can go right on down.
 

ChivalRuse

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Personally, I prefer a diversity of stages. I don't like the Pound 4 rules overmuch, and I wouldn't be averse to putting PS and the neutrals on random (i.e., doing away with stage striking) and reinstating the old counterpicks.

But I'm hesitant to alter the stagelist now because I don't want to offend anyone who was content with the Pound 4 system. Out of respect for those players, I don't think I can change the rules for this Saturday. However, if enough people show me they want MLG rules over Pound, I'd be happy to grant their wish for all subsequent Shell Shocked tournaments.
 

DJRome

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in all honesty, stage striking decreases randomness, just as removing items does. while there probably could be a couple more stages to cp, random has become too archaic to return.
 

ChuDat

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EDIT: Since this post gave me a headache.

DJROME - This is just friendly **** talk. And by friendly, I mean serious. In other words, I'm just giving people more things to read and more things to talk about when they come into this thread. I'd like to hear your opinion on this actually.

What did you think of the Pound4 ruleset? Do you think we should have Pokemon Stadium as a neutral or a counter pick? Before you respond, please read our previous posts in this thread.

ChivalRuse - It's cool that you don't change the stagelist for this upcoming tournament since the tournament is coming up this week. (BTW, I don't see anyone in here content with Pound4 rules. People have been agreeing with me. I'm just saying.)

Also, you didn't answer my first question. Why is Pokemon Stadium a counterpick? If the answer to that is, "Because Pound4 had it and it's the most recent tournament", then please reconsider your choice of rules. Those rules aren't the standard, and shouldn't be the standard for reasons I have already listed.

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Rant:
People across the country are using the Pound4 ruleset since it was the last major Melee tournament. I have no idea how it became a counterpick stage in the Melee Backroom. I believe that we should put a stop to this ****ty azz ruleset since THIS WILL AFFECT ALL MELEE TOURNAMENTS FROM THIS POINT ON!

However, I am just one person. I don't care that much to actually go out and spread my opinion. I just care about Melee tournaments that I actually go to since it greatly affects me and my performance. If people want to create a thread about this in the Tournament Discussion threads, then great. I'll support it 100%.
 

Plairnkk

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Chu do you just ignore what i post and just keep posting the same thing? I didn't MAKE the pound 4 rules, they were decided on elsewhere and I implemented them because the game has had the same rules since 02 even though it has evolved tons. Nobody has complained about the rules except for you and they got overwhelmingly good reviews from almost everyone.

Of course you are conservative Chu, you hate change or movement forward. I guess i'd like to be back in 2006 if that's the only time I was successful but unfortunately it's 2010 now and you just need to accept that LMAO. You're a one trick pony and you're just pissed that after 6 years people finally caught on. Trust me it's not the stages as the reason you don't do so hot anymore. 6 years is a good run though, you should be proud.
 

DJRome

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chu, this is fairly easy to answer. ps being a cp is a direct result of the switch to stage striking. i don't think anyone will disagree that stage striking is more neutral and fair than random select. however, it would be foolish to use 7 stages for strikes as that would be too many and six is an even number. so of the remaining neutrals, which is the least neutral? clearly the answer is ps. while it is more neutral than the cp stages, it is the least neutral of the original six and thus must be removed.

personally, i don't think that dsr should apply to bo3, but i am probably in the small minority on that issue.
 

Eggm

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My ideal ruleset would be pound 4 rules but found of dreams as a CP stage instead of stadium. I hate CP stages and FoD lol. I don't care about the rules tho I'm the defending champ and i'mma keep my shell shocked belt. I'm just gonna **** then the rules don't matter.
 

crismas

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I may come to this :o

If anyone traveling from ny/nj can give me a ride from jersey that'd be fantastic.
 
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