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Q&A Sheik Strategy & QnA

soap

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haha, rofl 2 good, i may sig that, even the isrealis said my sheik is "Godly" but they had never seen a sheik player in their life
 

Scar

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thx Soap for being one of the only people in Melee to realize that Scarjump is only the initial walljump done w/o wasting the dj. Everyone else thinks it's the repeated walljump =/

Not nearly as cool/impressive.

Sick vid btw.
 

soap

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who was the first messiah? jesus? jesus didnt have needle tricks like me

i tried the repeating walljumps, it doesnt work with sheik, for some reason her aerials dont stop momentum like falcons does, otherwise that record would be mine rofl, what is it 8? i was playing some nubs last week and apparently ANY kind of walljump nowadays is scar jumping, scar 2 good.

and rofl i mentioned scar jump like 5 minutes ago, how did u find this?
 

TheLake

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Zelda can kick uhh really uh...

She can reverse umm her...

**** no johns, soaps vid is the catz meow
 

Banks

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This gave me sooooooooooooo many ideas LOL.
lmao, this place is an idea factory after all. sheik mains: the philosophers of smash


also, I want someone to find something productive to do with the chain =(

is that too much to ask?!
 

Linguini

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bair to triple fair, i approve, didnt cream my pants or nothing, thats kinda gross. tech chasing could be more crisp, but your sheik is sick

why play fat ganon?
ganon is soo much easier vs falco, i have to get a couple hits to kill falco with sheik whereas with ganon i hit him with a fair once and he just dies hah.
 

soap

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dude how do you perfect waveland on those platforms

my sheik is totally untechnical
rofl a neighborhood P non-negative comment, im honored

Zelda can kick uhh really uh...

She can reverse umm her...

**** no johns, soaps vid is the catz meow
dude reverse nayrus to bair? awww yeaaaa, i do zelda tricks too, just started working on my farores wind edge cancels rofl.

ganon is soo much easier vs falco, i have to get a couple hits to kill falco with sheik whereas with ganon i hit him with a fair once and he just dies hah.
how do u hit falco with ganon? *watches linguini vids* i swear i thought dope was just high at FC or something
 

Linguini

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soap

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wow, ***** ****

full hop uair OOs, didnt think that would be quick enough, i guess it is if they try to delay dairs on your shield.
impressive.

i wanna play ganon now lol, i just gotta get used to his jump timing, i always get stuck in shield and it takes him like a day to jump out compared to fast people, gotta learn when he can jump and just buffer rolls the rest of the time

lol sheik Q&A is 2 fresh, we talk about whatever


also i just saw this in related links to my vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=one2x4GPzVE&NR=1

at first i was like lawl brawl, but some of the stuff looks kinda cool, i gota try needle sliding, anybody here play brawl sheik? i tried her for five minutes and i feel like she is not for me, i still dont have a main in that game that i play ten minutes a month.

rofl i love how sheik trips in the opening clip.
 

soap

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thanks, but thats like a year old already cant believe no one watched it till now, ive got new stuff, its secret though
 

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who was the first messiah? jesus? jesus didnt have needle tricks like me

i tried the repeating walljumps, it doesnt work with sheik, for some reason her aerials dont stop momentum like falcons does, otherwise that record would be mine rofl, what is it 8? i was playing some nubs last week and apparently ANY kind of walljump nowadays is scar jumping, scar 2 good.

and rofl i mentioned scar jump like 5 minutes ago, how did u find this?


i know all. lol at nubs


and i had seen your vid several times i just never noticed the scar jump
 

soap

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ya i couldve put captions and stuff like those "informational, educational type" videos, but that **** is gay
 

SPAWN

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Isn't gay what Sheik is all about. ****ing do it, soap.
 

#HBC | Mac

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there are a whole assortment of different types of grabs to choose from, dash grab, jc grab, pivot grab, boost grab, etc.
Which kinds of grabs are more efficient in different situations?
 

KirbyKaze

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boost grab is pretty much for tech chasing and compensating for dash dancing and silliness.

jc grab is for when you don't want to lag much and get horribly butt****ed. i also find it easier to cg characters with jc grabs after about 30 but that's just a preference thing.

dash grab is for cgs and when you think the range is more important than the reduced lag. it's also for cging at real low percents when they di away and your jc grab won't reach. by real low think 0-10/12/14ish.

pivot grabbing is mostly for crossing up on shields (dash behind them, pivot grab) or defending against stuff (pivot grab someone out of a low or medium-low range aerial like fox's nair, peach's jabs, etc).

generally jc grab is good if you're afraid of lagging too much and being ***** for it, and dash/boost grabs are good if you need more range or need to cover more distance and don't care about the risks. pivot is for tricksies and defense mostly.
 

#HBC | Mac

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usually for other characters I just JCed all my grabs, but with sheik her JC range wasn't to great. So that's why I asked. And i remember reading somewhere that her dash grab is more useful than her JC.
 

soap

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boost grab is pretty much for tech chasing and compensating for dash dancing and silliness.

jc grab is for when you don't want to lag much and get horribly butt****ed. i also find it easier to cg characters with jc grabs after about 30 but that's just a preference thing.

dash grab is for cgs and when you think the range is more important than the reduced lag. it's also for cging at real low percents when they di away and your jc grab won't reach. by real low think 0-10/12/14ish.

pivot grabbing is mostly for crossing up on shields (dash behind them, pivot grab) or defending against stuff (pivot grab someone out of a low or medium-low range aerial like fox's nair, peach's jabs, etc).

generally jc grab is good if you're afraid of lagging too much and being ***** for it, and dash/boost grabs are good if you need more range or need to cover more distance and don't care about the risks. pivot is for tricksies and defense mostly.
its really easy to predict a dash away or wavedash back and grab them out of it with a boost grab. Boost grab *****, just get used to the spacing and u will interchange it second nature with jc grabs.

Jc grab is the only other grab u really need.

i cant chain grab at low percent everytime, and i usually miss it when i actually need it in a pressure situation, so i just ftlilt. i jc grabs for chaingrabs above 30 too, timing is just more natural cuz i never dash grab really.

pivot grab is **** with marth, its meh with sheik, pivot behind shield is 2 good with everybody.
 

#HBC | Mac

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TECZERO! i live in union which is like 10 secs away lol,

unfortunately...
i'm in college in MA =[

but atleast ill have sum1 to play over winterbreak.
 

#HBC | Mac

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wooster, a trains ride a way,
we should play sometime,

im actually gonna be at tufts this saturday i dunno if you're anywhere near there
 

ArcNatural

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wooster, a trains ride a way,
we should play sometime,

im actually gonna be at tufts this saturday i dunno if you're anywhere near there
Proverbs goes to school right at the New England Medical Center Orange line train stop. I'm training him up. I live right off of Wellington station if you want to stop by. Paying for parking in Boston is horrible but if you know a place I guess I could take the T in too.
 

#HBC | Mac

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so if i did get to boston on saturday with time to spare, would there be a way that i can get to your house?
 

ArcNatural

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Just orange line to wellington. Takes 10-15 minutes from Tufts (The tufts that's near the new england medical center orange line stop).
 

Teczer0

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TECZERO! i live in union which is like 10 secs away lol,

unfortunately...
i'm in college in MA =[

but atleast ill have sum1 to play over winterbreak.
Well I'm in Newark for school.

I live in Bayonne though. I'm not sure if I'll be in my dorm room or my house during winter break but we'll see :)
 

#HBC | Mac

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@tec where do you go?

@arc, well i'm planning on takin some train to boston and than go to your house and then to tufts.
I might have someone to bring me from your house to tufts but how would i get to your house from wherever the train stops. [and i've never rode the train so i don't even know where it stops in boston]
i def need to play melee with good ppl soon...
 

soap

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is like everyone here going to spawn's tournament? we can have a sheik orgy
if i go, we're doing an all sheik crew together, it will be ****... we can finally prove once and for all..... that we're not as good as fox rofl.
 

Banks

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well we can all wear the same color shirts and a banadana that says sheik crew, and just trash talk everyone. and if we did an all sheik crew vs anyone, i bet it would turn whoever our opponents are into an all fox crew, but we'd win anyway LOL
 

soap

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how many sheik mains could a sheik main main if a sheik main was in maine?

rofl that doesnt make sense, but who all plays sheik besides u and tec? o tecs not from maine, i meant like at the spawn tourney thing though
 

Banks

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me and dazwa from maine, tec0 is going, u (soap) r going, kirbycanada guy is going w/e his name is, spawn obv will be there

thats 6 SO FAR and im pretty sure every one is really good, i'm on the northeast power rankings after all *flexes* don't make me two stock PC's falco AGAIN OH SNAP FRIENDLY REFERENCES LETS GO GUYS
 
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