Shantae, the Half Genie Protector of Scuttle Town! (A Switch To A New WayForward)

Do you think shantae can make it?

  • Yes, as a fighter

  • Yes, as a assist trophy

  • No, not as a assist trophy

  • No, not at all


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How would you guys feel if somehow what this art says happens. Shantae x Risky Boots?

I wouldn't really be into it. I kind of like how oblivious Shantae is to romance and such. Like there aren't many Asexual/Aromantic humanoid characters out there. And I'm not saying she is either of those, just that how she is written right now, she can be anything the players likes her to be.

I can see arguments for her with Risky (tho it's a bit cliche for my tastes) and I can see arguments for Rotty (tho unless some things change I wouldn't see them having a very healthy relationship) And really beyond them I don;t see any options for her. So I like her just being herself and happy all the same.
 

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True. But Risky looks SUPER sexy in that fanart with her long hair down. :love:
Yeah i agree with you there fully. More hair down Risky please.

I wouldn't really be into it. I kind of like how oblivious Shantae is to romance and such. Like there aren't many Asexual/Aromantic humanoid characters out there. And I'm not saying she is either of those, just that how she is written right now, she can be anything the players likes her to be.

I can see arguments for her with Risky (tho it's a bit cliche for my tastes) and I can see arguments for Rotty (tho unless some things change I wouldn't see them having a very healthy relationship) And really beyond them I don;t see any options for her. So I like her just being herself and happy all the same.
True i think its fine and not needed for shantae to have a romantic partner. I just like to speculate and the fanart is cute
 
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Yeah i agree with you there fully. More hair down Risky please.



True i think its fine and not needed for shantae to have a romantic partner. I just like to speculate and the fanart is cute
Oh the art is super cute and I do like seeing fan interpretations a lot. I just mean when it comes from official sources I like the idea of them keeping things open ended for fans to insert what they prefer.
 
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BlastBox has a solid idea here who can be cut and stays in the next game. Though he is bias against a couple of characters but that's everybody though. Hopefully Shantae can join all the veterans in this game whether than half of the roster in Smash 6. I hope she makes it.
 

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BlastBox has a solid idea here who can be cut and stays in the next game. Though he is bias against a couple of characters but that's everybody though. Hopefully Shantae can join all the veterans in this game whether than half of the roster in Smash 6. I hope she makes it.
What does this have to do with Shantae?
 

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https://twitter.com/jeffgrubb/status/1237525608503996417?s=21


Update: Just got retweeted, if he is right then I guess we know Nintendo's lineup for March.
Sounds like next week is the nindie direct, with the general direct the week after. That dashes the crazy idea that the nindie direct ends with shantae for smash, but that was a long shot. Hopefully wayforward actually shows something during one of these 2 events.
 
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RIP Ring Fit Trainer, she died alongside a couple Resident Evil spirits, by Galeem of course
 
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Since now that people are getting news soon.....well, this image pretty much explains itself
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For the other, Smash Details, Upcoming games in 2020, and WF long silence on Seven Sirens makes me anxious and getting ready to dodge salt bullets.
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Its still too early to call bad news yet. If spirits do deconfirm, Shantae and Geno supporters to name a couple would be finished a year ago. So far, its just more on DLC spirits as of now.
If they were deconfirmed, I really feel they would have said something. Sakurai has been quite vocal about stuff, like making sure people stopped thinking old battlefield was coming.
 
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All first-party spirits are referencing new IPs. They probably just don't want or can't knee-jerk new characters out of them at this moment or make bets.

Third parties are a bit more random but I can see arguments. Survival horror just might not transition well into Smash, if only due to ratings, and Kunio of late has a bit of an obsession with 8-bit graphics even in the modern age. That or they have another beat-em-up character in mind...
 

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Sounds like next week is the nindie direct, with the general direct the week after. That dashes the crazy idea that the nindie direct ends with shantae for smash, but that was a long shot. Hopefully wayforward actually shows something during one of these 2 events.
I would like to point out, most of the time, when we get a indie direct, we get Seven Siren news about a week later.
 
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Which means it could happen in the general direct, or wayforward doing their own thing again
Yeah, Shantae has featured in general directs before, but since they have been doing Indie specific Directs I don't think she has shown up in any of them. The biased side of me wants to say that Nintendo likes to treat Shantae as something higher than just a one off indie character, but it could just as likely be that since the indie Directs have been around, the Shantae team just didn't have anything they felt worth showing off.
 

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Some random things:
-That one artist that made those Shantae style Nintendo characters made more.
-Those also trended on KYM. As did The Super Sayan Shantae.
-A comment on some old KYM pic mentioned the idea of a Trifusion between Shantae, Midna and Felicia from Darkstalkers. It suddenly came to me that the fusion between Shantae and Felicia would look similar to Aisha Clanclan from Outlaw Star.
 

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Some random things:
-That one artist that made those Shantae style Nintendo characters made more.
-Those also trended on KYM. As did The Super Sayan Shantae.
-A comment on some old KYM pic mentioned the idea of a Trifusion between Shantae, Midna and Felicia from Darkstalkers. It suddenly came to me that the fusion between Shantae and Felicia would look similar to Aisha Clanclan from Outlaw Star.
God I loved aisha clanclan. One of the reasons i liked outlaw star more the cowboy bebop
 

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Forgot to add one more thing; Nintendo asked me to fill a survey on regards to River City Girls. Did anyone else get that survey?
 

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When did you get or register the game? I usually get those surveys within a week or two of purchase.
Honestly can't remember. Got the survey about a week ago.
I missed out on my Steamworld Quest survey. I should check my email more often.
 

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Heres a fun little idea, what if all of Season 2 are spirit/mii fighter upgrades only? Who would you think or like to see? Here are mine.

1. Shantae
2. Geno
3. Rex and Pyra
4. Rayman
5. Jenna(Golden Sun)
6. Paper Mario
Mine are as follows:

1) Shantae
2) Lip (Panel de Pon)
3) Geno
4) Rayman
5) Viridi
6) Jacky Bryant (Virtua Fighter)
 

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Heres a fun little idea, what if all of Season 2 are spirit/mii fighter upgrades only? Who would you think or like to see? Here are mine.

1. Shantae
2. Geno
3. Rex and Pyra
4. Rayman
5. Jenna(Golden Sun)
6. Paper Mario
Let’s see, in no particular order...
-Shantae (not big surprise)
-Medusa (maybe with Amazon Pandora in tow?)
-Elma
-Ray
-Chun-Li
-Any of the River City Ruckus-Bringers
This isn’t a set in stone list, just the ones off the top of my head.
 

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Heres a fun little idea, what if all of Season 2 are spirit/mii fighter upgrades only? Who would you think or like to see? Here are mine.

1. Shantae
2. Geno
3. Rex and Pyra
4. Rayman
5. Jenna(Golden Sun)
6. Paper Mario
Who I'd like to see?

1. Shantae
2. Classic Ganon (If that counts.)
3. Geno
4. Goemon
5. Captain Syrup
6. Rayman

Who I would predict?

Geno
Shantae
Rex
Rayman
Dixie Kong
Bandana Dee

I could also see Paper Mario being chosen over the first party picks.
 
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Hmm. This is an interesting thing to theorize about. There are certainly a lot of wasted potential in the Spirits section. For my list I am going to include characters that are only in the game as spirits. So worthy Assist trophies will be left out (notable mentions being Midna, Skull Kid, Ashley, Alucard, Krystal... Probably others I am forgetting) SO my list would end up as such...

Shantae: I mean on this thread was she not going to show up on every list?

Geno: Not a personal favorite of mine, but a neat character all the same and he feels like the last "big" get in regards to fan requests.

Dixie Kong: My second most wanted character and I would argue Nintendo's last big Super Star character who isn't yet playable.

Mipha: She ticks all the boxes for me: Zelda rep who isn't one of the three. Uses a weapon not really represented in Smash. Under represented elemental attacks (too much fire in this game)

Medusa or Viridi: I would be happy with either of them. As a character I like Viridi more, but Medusa would add another "main villain" to the roster so I'd be fine with either one.

Young Tiki or Blastoise: This last one was a bit of a personal choice. There were many other spirits on the runner up list from far less represented series, but I just didn't like any of them as much as these two. Both Pokemon and Fire Emblem are over represented, but neither with characters I really care about, so either of these would serve my tastes rather than what the game "needs"

I said no characters that are assists, but I am using the precedent set by Young Link that different ages of a character can justify a different character slot. SO even tho Awakening Tiki is an Assist, original Tiki isn't.

As for Blastoise. Take Squirtles moveset, slow him down a bit (except keep withdraw just as fast) make him tankier but take down his recovery a bit and then give him his own Down B instead of switching pokemon (I would say either Rapid spin to work Like Bowser's spin move, or maybe whirlpool that creates a vortex to draw opponents in for attacks)

Runner Ups..

Tails: He probably should have taken the last slot in my list, but I'm not really a big Sonic fan. That said I definitely think he deserves a spot and would much prefer him over Shadow.

Birdo: I really can't think of many more Mario characters we could get, but I think Birdo is very deserving. One of the first enemy characters to become a character in her own right. And tho people say she would be a Yoshi echo (and I can see that) technically there is no reason to assume that as any moveset for Birdo would be mostly made up on the spot. Aside from a front shooting egg, everything else could be borrowed from Yoshi or made from scratch.

Roll: Maybe there are more deserving Mega Man reps, but Roll is the one I would like most. She could use a lot of the Robot Master moves that Her brother lost when custom moves were removed (as well as Beat for her recovery) but then she could add a few of her own. Like her smash attacks could be her broom and instead of the mega Buster she could have her vacuum arm are that would suck up items to use later like the Villager's pick up ability.

Chun Li or Blanka: One problem I have with smash is the "main character before anyone else" theme. It makes sense, but often times leads to the most boring options. For me, Street Fighter is the most obvious victim of this. For me, Ryu and Ken are just so bland and boring compared to the more interesting and colorful cast they come from. Personally, I think Blanka is the best fit for Smash as his moveset is the most out there and would better translate the the weird, impossible nature of Smash. That said, Chun Li is very deserving in her own right and I imagine if SF got a third, it would be her.
 
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I really don't get the disdain for Ryu and Ken.
I like them. o_O

Ok, there are some SF-Characters I like more (Makoto, Alex and Sakura)
But I honestly don't think they're bad characters at all.


Anyway, if we're talking Spirit Promotions... honestly, I don't have many wants.
The only two I'd want to get promoted personally are...
1. Shantae
2. Octolings (The Player Characters, not the enemies in Single Player)

Beyond that, I struggle thinking of any I'd want as characters...
3. Rayman (Iconic Character)
4. Metal Sonic
5. Rex

I dunno, those are Spirits I could remember, that I could see making it into Smash.
But I forgot about most of them tbh. Like I said, I don't have many wants. ^^;
 
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I really don't get the disdain for Ryu and Ken.
I like them. o_O

Ok, there are some SF-Characters I like more (Makoto, Alex and Sakura)
But I honestly don't think they're bad characters at all.


Anyway, if we're talking Spirit Promotions... honestly, I don't have many wants.
The only two I'd want to get promoted personally are...
1. Shantae
2. Octolings (The Player Characters, not the enemies in Single Player)

Beyond that, I struggle thinking of any I'd want as characters...
3. Rayman (Iconic Character)
4. Metal Sonic
5. Rex

I dunno, those are Spirits I could remember, that I could see making it into Smash.
But I forgot about most of them tbh. Like I said, I don't have many wants. ^^;
I wouldn't say I have any disdain for Ryu and Ken, I was just saying that conceptually they are kind of boring for Smash.

Unlike other fighting games (usually more grounded in reality with most characters being some form of martial artist) Smash has such radically different and varied fighters. There is a cartoony plumber with fire balls, water cannons and jumps for days, a medieval elf with a myriad of different weapons, a futuristic bounty hunter with lasers, missiles and body transforming abilities, a rodent with the power of Thor...

And in a game like Street Fighter, where you could include the green beast-man with bio-electricity and spin-ball dashes, or the yogi who teleports, breaths fire and has stretchy limbs... We get white gi puncher with blue fire ball and red gi puncher with red fireball. I'm just saying that they don't fit the outlandish style of Smash as much as other SF reps could and they just seem a little boring in comparison.
 
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I wouldn't say I have any disdain for Ryu and Ken, I was just saying that conceptually they are kind of boring for Smash.

Unlike other fighting games (usually more grounded in reality with most characters being some form of martial artist) Smash has such radically different and varied fighters. There is a cartoony plumber with fire balls, water cannons and jumps for days, a medieval elf with a myriad of different weapons, a futuristic bounty hunter with lasers, missiles and body transforming abilities, a rodent with the power of Thor...

And in a game like Street Fighter, where you could include the green beast-man with bio-electricity and spin-ball dashes, or the yogi who teleports, breaths fire and has stretchy limbs... We get white gi puncher with blue fire ball and red gi puncher with red fireball. I'm just saying that they don't fit the outlandish style of Smash as much as other SF reps could and they just seem a little boring in comparison.
So, can you also explain how...

:ultlittlemac: some boxer from the Bronx...
:ultsnake: a covert ops specialist with no special traits besides being really good at what he does...
:ultmarth::ultlucina::ultike::ultchrom: several swordfighters...
:ult_terry: an actual street fighter...

...don't really fit Smash?

There's no weirdness criteria. If Nintendo made more realistic games, we would have seen them earlier and no one would have bat an eye. Plus, there's two factors to consider for Street Fighter in Smash: 1. Implementing the mechanics and physics of the series in a fighter already makes them stand out and more difficult to control by the standards of Smash, which segues into 2. with that in mind, the fighter picked has to be relatively simple to be usable in the chaos of Smash. How is Blanka supposed to use the lateral charge inputs, especially in non-1v1 situations? Does his gameplan even work well in a game with platforms and much more controlled jumping?

Even without all of that, you can argue the shoto's supposed blandness is precisely what makes them stand out and feel "outlandish", like Fatalis the "generic black dragon" of Monster Hunter, a fantasy creature in a game leaning more towards science. Even with more dragons being introduced later, it and it's relatives never lose their mystery.

 
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Hmm...Who do I predict...

I suppose...
1. Shantae. She MUST be in the game! Her mechanics would make for such a fun character to play as!
2. Rillaboom. Smash's thing is having at least one rep from every Pokemon generation. No reason in particular that it would specifically be this Pokemon from Sword and Shield, but there hasn't been a grass starter yet, so....
3. Arle Nadja. Shes like Geno for Japanese audiences with people constantly asking for her over there. Could even give her a color alt to look like Ashley.
4. Crash Bandicoot. Hes one of the big gaming mascots having once represented Playstation. I have trouble seeing him not showing up in this franchise eventually.
5. Someone from Ubisoft. I don't know if it would be Rayman, a Rabbid, the Asassins Creed guy, or what. I just see Ubisoft getting a rep from one of their franchises into this game.
6. A character from the new Zelda game. This prediction is a bit off the wall I confess, and I see it being the last one to actually show up. That said, Breath of the Wild has been a huge thing for the Nintendo Switch, so I could see them doing something like this.
 
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