Shantae, the Half Genie Protector of Scuttle Town! (A Switch To A New WayForward)

[SneakyLink]

In regards to other indies, does popularity above all else matter? I see some people saying Sans, Owlboy, Hollow Knight are likely due to their successs and being on the Switch,

All of them were released (or announced) for this year so I genuinely doubt none of the three mentioned stand a chance.

Popularity helps but in the end, a fun move set is probably more important to the devs.

 

[Shinuto]

All of them were released (or announced) for this year so I genuinely doubt none of the three mentioned stand a chance.

Popularity helps but in the end, a fun move set is probably more important to the devs.

How about Shovel Knight, I saw an argument say that he mostly just has the hype an is still too young relatively.

 

[Parallel_Falchion]

Here's a cynical possibility: WayForward's silence on Shantae for Smash is its own form of publicity. "They're not talking about Shantae for Smash anymore! Does that mean she's in!?" If it gets people talking, right?

 

[SneakyLink]

How about Shovel Knight, I saw an argument say that he mostly just has the hype an is still too young relatively.

I can honestly say I never played Shovel Knight so I do not think I can give an opinion here.

 

[conTAgi0n]

There is a good chance that we will get more information on the new Smash at some point before E3. April sounds about right.

By the way everybody, you know that if Shantae really does get revealed for Smash, this thread needs to celebrate with some Smash together online.


I was looking over the OP for this thread again, and I realized that this is all we have listed for reasons Shantae deserves to be in the game.

What she has going for her

- From a company that has mostly released games on Nintendo consoles.

- Her games sell primarily on Nintendo consoles.

- A lot of moveset potential revolving around her ability to shape shift into different things.

- She has other games in the works that will be on Nintendo consoles.

- She would fit in perfectly amongst the cast.

Risky's Revenge trailer
Original game gameplay
An interesting video
Probably very unlikely but i think she deserves some thought and consideration.

If memory serves, that is all legacy text from the original version of the original Shantae support thread, back from before Smash 4 even released.

There are some other revamps I would like to see for the OP (for example, putting proposed movesets in spoiler boxes), but a more robust list of arguments for Shantae joining Smash is probably most important. The best use of the OP for a support thread is to persuade people who check it out of curiosity why that character deserves a spot.

I don't have time to write all this up now, but I can at least start with an outline, and maybe draft a few words for some of the arguments in her favor.

Why should Shantae be in the game?

History with Nintendo
Shantae dates all the way to 2002, when her first game was released for the GBC, and was hailed by critics as one of the best games on the console. Risky's Revenge came out almost ten years later, and was originally exclusive to Nintendo's DSiWare - and was also widely regarded as one of the best, if not the best, DSiWare title ever released. Shantae and the Pirate's Curse also started with a long period of exclusivity for 3DS and Wii U. Half Genie Hero is the only Shantae game to start as multi-platform. No third party character has such a long and consistent record of loyalty to Nintendo, period.

She fits
Shantae and the world she inhabits are vibrant, colorful, cartoonish, and loaded with personality. Thematically, she fits in extremely well with the likes of Mario, Kirby, Pokémon, Zelda, and the rest.

Moveset potential
Shantae's moves has incredible moveset potential, easily more than any other commonly requested newcomer. This is because, across her various games, Shantae has access to a very wide and diverse pool of different moves and abilities, and most of them would translate very well into Smash. Plus, Shantae also has a lot of features that would easily distinguish her from the rest of the cast, including but not limited to her signature hair whipping, dancing, and transformations.

She represents indies
Indies are an extremely important part of the gaming world today, and have also become increasingly significant to Nintendo, which coined the term "Nindies" for those that appear on its consoles, and often features them right alongside major AAA titles. Nindies have become an important enough part of modern Nintendo's history that they deserve to be celebrated with a spot in Smash. Plus, an indie character would bring something fresh to the game, now that the surprise of AAA third party characters has worn off.

She increases the cast's diversity
Let's make clear from the get-go that this is NOT about making Smash Bros more politically correct. Everybody likes diversity in a fighting game - a cast full of same-y characters is boring. This is why people want more heavyweights and representatives from different franchises - it increases diversity. Speaking of diversity, only 10 of Smash 4's 58 characters are female, counting Jigglypuff, and counting ZSS and Sheik as separate from Samus and Zelda. If you count Robin, Corrin, WFT, and Villager, it goes up to 14. Of the roughly 30 human characters on the cast, the only two non-white characters are Ganondorf and Ryu. Shantae is a great character that more than deserves a spot in Smash Bros., regardless of her gender or complexion. However, the fact that she would also improve the gender and racial diversity of Smash is definitely a nice plus.

Increased exposure for a great series
Nintendo has used Smash appearances to promote overlooked first party franchises in the past, most famously Fire Emblem in the West. Now, I'm not saying Shantae is obscure - far from it. She is one of the most recognizable indie characters out there, and has frequently been featured among the Nintendo eshop's best sellers. When pre-orders for her latest game went up in Japan, they jumped to number 10 among games on Amazon JP. However, a Smash appearance would definitely give her a huge boost. As a 16 year Nintendo-focused franchise with 4 games, a couple of which are great, and none of which are worse than "very good", I'd say that the Shantae franchise deserves to be introduced to a wider audience.


If anyone else can think of arguments I'm forgetting about, or can write up a better/more thorough explanation for one of them, that would be super awesome.

An even more important section would be rebuttals to some common arguments against Shantae. I don't have time to write these up, but I can at least start a list of common arguments against Shantae:

She's not popular enough
Shovel Knight is more deserving/more probable
Her costume is too revealing for Smash
People only like her because she's a pretty girl
Smash isn't doing transformation characters anymore

 

[Shinuto]

There is a good chance that we will get more information on the new Smash at some point before E3. April sounds about right.

By the way everybody, you know that if Shantae really does get revealed for Smash, this thread needs to celebrate with some Smash together online.


I was looking over the OP for this thread again, and I realized that this is all we have listed for reasons Shantae deserves to be in the game.


If memory serves, that is all legacy text from the original version of the original Shantae support thread, back from before Smash 4 even released.

There are some other revamps I would like to see for the OP (for example, putting proposed movesets in spoiler boxes), but a more robust list of arguments for Shantae joining Smash is probably most important. The best use of the OP for a support thread is to persuade people who check it out of curiosity why that character deserves a spot.

I don't have time to write all this up now, but I can at least start with an outline, and maybe draft a few words for some of the arguments in her favor.

Why should Shantae be in the game?

History with Nintendo
Shantae dates all the way to 2002, when her first game was released for the GBC, and was hailed by critics as one of the best games on the console. Risky's Revenge came out almost ten years later, and was originally exclusive to Nintendo's DSiWare - and was also widely regarded as one of the best, if not the best, DSiWare title ever released. Shantae and the Pirate's Curse also started with a long period of exclusivity for 3DS and Wii U. Half Genie Hero is the only Shantae game to start as multi-platform. No third party character has such a long and consistent record of loyalty to Nintendo, period.

She fits
Shantae and the world she inhabits are vibrant, colorful, cartoonish, and loaded with personality. Thematically, she fits in extremely well with the likes of Mario, Kirby, Pokémon, Zelda, and the rest.

Moveset potential
Shantae's moves has incredible moveset potential, easily more than any other commonly requested newcomer. This is because, across her various games, Shantae has access to a very wide and diverse pool of different moves and abilities, and most of them would translate very well into Smash. Plus, Shantae also has a lot of features that would easily distinguish her from the rest of the cast, including but not limited to her signature hair whipping, dancing, and transformations.

She represents indies
Indies are an extremely important part of the gaming world today, and have also become increasingly significant to Nintendo, which coined the term "Nindies" for those that appear on its consoles, and often features them right alongside major AAA titles. Nindies have become an important enough part of modern Nintendo's history that they deserve to be celebrated with a spot in Smash. Plus, an indie character would bring something fresh to the game, now that the surprise of AAA third party characters has worn off.

She increases the cast's diversity
Let's make clear from the get-go that this is NOT about making Smash Bros more politically correct. Everybody likes diversity in a fighting game - a cast full of same-y characters is boring. This is why people want more heavyweights and representatives from different franchises - it increases diversity. Speaking of diversity, only 10 of Smash 4's 58 characters are female, counting Jigglypuff, and counting ZSS and Sheik as separate from Samus and Zelda. If you count Robin, Corrin, WFT, and Villager, it goes up to 14. Of the roughly 30 human characters on the cast, the only two non-white characters are Ganondorf and Ryu. Shantae is a great character that more than deserves a spot in Smash Bros., regardless of her gender or complexion. However, the fact that she would also improve the gender and racial diversity of Smash is definitely a nice plus.

Increased exposure for a great series
Nintendo has used Smash appearances to promote overlooked first party franchises in the past, most famously Fire Emblem in the West. Now, I'm not saying Shantae is obscure - far from it. She is one of the most recognizable indie characters out there, and has frequently been featured among the Nintendo eshop's best sellers. When pre-orders for her latest game went up in Japan, they jumped to number 10 among games on Amazon JP. However, a Smash appearance would definitely give her a huge boost. As a 16 year Nintendo-focused franchise with 4 games, a couple of which are great, and none of which are worse than "very good", I'd say that the Shantae franchise deserves to be introduced to a wider audience.

If she gets revealed Im defintely fighting you on WiiU with my WFT.

 

[Deleted member]

There is a good chance that we will get more information on the new Smash at some point before E3. April sounds about right.

By the way everybody, you know that if Shantae really does get revealed for Smash, this thread needs to celebrate with some Smash together online.


I was looking over the OP for this thread again, and I realized that this is all we have listed for reasons Shantae deserves to be in the game.


If memory serves, that is all legacy text from the original version of the original Shantae support thread, back from before Smash 4 even released.

There are some other revamps I would like to see for the OP (for example, putting proposed movesets in spoiler boxes), but a more robust list of arguments for Shantae joining Smash is probably most important. The best use of the OP for a support thread is to persuade people who check it out of curiosity why that character deserves a spot.

I don't have time to write all this up now, but I can at least start with an outline, and maybe draft a few words for some of the arguments in her favor.

Why should Shantae be in the game?

History with Nintendo
Shantae dates all the way to 2002, when her first game was released for the GBC, and was hailed by critics as one of the best games on the console. Risky's Revenge came out almost ten years later, and was originally exclusive to Nintendo's DSiWare - and was also widely regarded as one of the best, if not the best, DSiWare title ever released. Shantae and the Pirate's Curse also started with a long period of exclusivity for 3DS and Wii U. Half Genie Hero is the only Shantae game to start as multi-platform. No third party character has such a long and consistent record of loyalty to Nintendo, period.

She fits
Shantae and the world she inhabits are vibrant, colorful, cartoonish, and loaded with personality. Thematically, she fits in extremely well with the likes of Mario, Kirby, Pokémon, Zelda, and the rest.

Moveset potential
Shantae's moves has incredible moveset potential, easily more than any other commonly requested newcomer. This is because, across her various games, Shantae has access to a very wide and diverse pool of different moves and abilities, and most of them would translate very well into Smash. Plus, Shantae also has a lot of features that would easily distinguish her from the rest of the cast, including but not limited to her signature hair whipping, dancing, and transformations.

She represents indies
Indies are an extremely important part of the gaming world today, and have also become increasingly significant to Nintendo, which coined the term "Nindies" for those that appear on its consoles, and often features them right alongside major AAA titles. Nindies have become an important enough part of modern Nintendo's history that they deserve to be celebrated with a spot in Smash. Plus, an indie character would bring something fresh to the game, now that the surprise of AAA third party characters has worn off.

She increases the cast's diversity
Let's make clear from the get-go that this is NOT about making Smash Bros more politically correct. Everybody likes diversity in a fighting game - a cast full of same-y characters is boring. This is why people want more heavyweights and representatives from different franchises - it increases diversity. Speaking of diversity, only 10 of Smash 4's 58 characters are female, counting Jigglypuff, and counting ZSS and Sheik as separate from Samus and Zelda. If you count Robin, Corrin, WFT, and Villager, it goes up to 14. Of the roughly 30 human characters on the cast, the only two non-white characters are Ganondorf and Ryu. Shantae is a great character that more than deserves a spot in Smash Bros., regardless of her gender or complexion. However, the fact that she would also improve the gender and racial diversity of Smash is definitely a nice plus.

Increased exposure for a great series
Nintendo has used Smash appearances to promote overlooked first party franchises in the past, most famously Fire Emblem in the West. Now, I'm not saying Shantae is obscure - far from it. She is one of the most recognizable indie characters out there, and has frequently been featured among the Nintendo eshop's best sellers. When pre-orders for her latest game went up in Japan, they jumped to number 10 among games on Amazon JP. However, a Smash appearance would definitely give her a huge boost. As a 16 year Nintendo-focused franchise with 4 games, a couple of which are great, and none of which are worse than "very good", I'd say that the Shantae franchise deserves to be introduced to a wider audience.


If anyone else can think of arguments I'm forgetting about, or can write up a better/more thorough explanation for one of them, that would be super awesome.

An even more important section would be rebuttals to some common arguments against Shantae. I don't have time to write these up, but I can at least start a list of common arguments against Shantae:

She's not popular enough
Shovel Knight is more deserving/more probable
Her costume is too revealing for Smash
People only like her because she's a pretty girl
Smash isn't doing transformation characters anymore

I think the Increased exposure argument probably shouldn't be there, it least is a bit iffy. Because that is an argument for any series, and any character. Smash is a King maker we all know that.
We need to focus on the positives for Shantae in Smash based on her own merits, not what will happen after her inclusion.

 

[conTAgi0n]

@ProtoTwi Good point. It is a reason that I would like to see her included, but it might not be a good way to try to persuade someone who isn't sold on her yet. I will say, it's not an argument for EVERY character and franchise. Sonic, for example, basically already had basically maximum exposure. How many people are only discovering Sonic games because they learned about him through Smash?

If she gets revealed Im defintely fighting you on WiiU with my WFT.

Oh, it's on.

In regards to other indies, does popularity above all else matter? I see some people saying Sans, Owlboy, Hollow Knight are likely due to their successs and being on the Switch,

The short answer is that nobody really knows. As usual though, that doesn't stop a lot of people from thinking that they do. Some people squint and see a semi-pattern across five or six characters, read a vague, one-line quote from Sakurai that includes something about "contributing to gaming history", and then act like they've got Sakurai all figured out.

I would point out though that the earliest any of those games came out is 2015, so character selection was probably basically finalized before anyone had really even heard of any of them.

EDIT: I also just watched this video included in the first ever Shantae support thread. It really is kind of a strange video lol.

 

[Shinuto]

@ProtoTwi Good point. It is a reason that I would like to see her included, but it might not be a good way to try to persuade someone who isn't sold on her yet. I will say, it's not an argument for EVERY character and franchise. Sonic, for example, basically already had basically maximum exposure. How many people are only discovering Sonic games because they learned about him through Smash?


Oh, it's on.

The short answer is that nobody really knows. As usual though, that doesn't stop a lot of people from thinking that they do. Some people squint and see a semi-pattern across five or six characters, read a vague, one-line quote from Sakurai that includes something about "contributing to gaming history", and then act like they've got Sakurai all figured out.

I would point out though that the earliest any of those games came out is 2015, so character selection was probably basically finalized before anyone had really even heard of any of them.

EDIT: I also just watched this video included in the first ever Shantae support thread. It really is kind of a strange video lol.

I just can't help but laugh abit I mean...some of these game JUST came out OR just NOW got a port on the Switch, and suddenly everyone thinks "Oh they're super likely!"

Its one thing if someone says they want them badly and are glad these circumstances give their dream character more of a chance, but when it becomes "I think they are likely AND then go to say others in the same general group who've been around longer are less likely, it just kinda....irritates me.

 

[WingedSupernova]

In regards to other indies, does popularity above all else matter? I see some people saying Sans, Owlboy, Hollow Knight are likely due to their successs and being on the Switch,

I don't think so. They at least have to have some history with Nintendo to be included in my mind, and that stems from the fact that series like Mega Man, Street Fighter, Final Fantasy, and Sonic got in.

 

[Shinuto]

What if Shantae transformed and became a Pikachu?

 

[Shadow Novus]

An even more important section would be rebuttals to some common arguments against Shantae. I don't have time to write these up, but I can at least start a list of common arguments against Shantae:


Her costume is too revealing for Smash
People only like her because she's a pretty girl

We can shoot down these 2 arguments in 1 word: Bayonetta

What if Shantae transformed and became a Pikachu?

I would say they should pika better option xD

 

[SneakyLink]

I took a trip to GameFAQS recently and a fair chunk say Shantae has 0 chance and the silence is Wayforward not bothering.

Remind me to never take that site seriously again.

 

[Shinuto]

I took a trip to GameFAQS recently and a fair chunk say Shantae has 0 chance and the silence is Wayforward not bothering.

Remind me to never take that site seriously again.

People there say Sans has a higher chance.

 

[SneakyLink]

People there say Sans has a higher chance.

I didn’t see any of that, all I saw were, apart from the above, people saying Shovel Knight was guaranteed because Yacht Club was more active on Twitter (though on Twitter, bar a retweet of a list of newcomers some site wants to see, I noticed they are also silent concerning Smash).

 

[Shinuto]

I didn’t see any of that, all I saw were, apart from the above, people saying Shovel Knight was guaranteed because Yacht Club was more active on Twitter (though on Twitter, bar a retweet of a list of newcomers some site wants to see, I noticed they are also silent concerning Smash).

People seem to just overinflate all the hyper SK gets and deflate everything else's

 

[BigShad]

All GameFAQs was ever good for was getting guides, and that's it. The grand majority of that user base has always been filled with the exact same sort of people.
But back on topic, if Sakurai ever had the model made, I'd love to see Risky take part in Shantae's Final Smash. Maybe Shantae would just whistle, Risky's boat suddenly just drop on stage and tear everything apart before exploding.

 

[conTAgi0n]

Serious question: how big is the userbase on GameFAQs? Compared to say, the r/smashbros or r/nintendo subreddits?

I never really paid any attention to GameFAQs because it always seemed like such a cesspool to me, so I don't know much about it.

 

[WingedSupernova]

Serious question: how big is the userbase on GameFAQs? Compared to say, the r/smashbros or r/nintendo subreddits?

I never really paid any attention to GameFAQs because it always seemed like such a cesspool to me, so I don't know much about it.

No idea really. I only rarely click on threads in there since it's like the 4chan of gaming websites tbh.

 

[Shinuto]

Serious question: how big is the userbase on GameFAQs? Compared to say, the r/smashbros or r/nintendo subreddits?

I never really paid any attention to GameFAQs because it always seemed like such a cesspool to me, so I don't know much about it.

I would say no, fairly small

Also just to say, since most people by the looks of it consider Shantae less likely that makes us the Underdog! we need to show as much support as we can!

 

[SneakyLink]

Backtracking from GameFAQS for a moment, what sort of stage would Shantae receive?

 

[Shinuto]

Backtracking from GameFAQS for a moment, what sort of stage would Shantae receive?

Scuttle Town, I mean come on.

 

[Deleted member]

Backtracking from GameFAQS for a moment, what sort of stage would Shantae receive?

Scuttle town. Or scuttle town under some form of attack from Risky, Ammo Baro, etc

 

[WingedSupernova]

So you know how they're rumoring that the new Fire Emblem game for the Switch is going to be pirate themed? What if, after they've announced a pirate character from that game is getting into Smash, they reveal Shantae and incorporate it into a misdirection for her reveal? It'd go something along the lines of how they did Bayonetta's reveal, and the huge negative reaction at the beginning when they start by showing a Fire Emblem character would be hilarious. I mean, Shantae's main rival is a pirate so I think it's a good fit. Just a shower thought I had lol.

 

[Deleted member]

So you know how they're rumoring that the new Fire Emblem game for the Switch is going to be pirate themed? What if, after they've announced a pirate character from that game is getting into Smash, they reveal Shantae and incorporate it into a misdirection for her reveal? It'd go something along the lines of how they did Bayonetta's reveal, and the huge negative reaction at the beginning when they start by showing a Fire Emblem character would be hilarious. I mean, Shantae's main rival is a pirate so I think it's a good fit. Just a shower thought I had lol.

You know who else is sometimes a pirate?
K.Rool.

Imagine the trailer they could come up with with DK,Diddy, Shantae, and K.Rool.

K.Rool as a pirate is attempting to steal DK's Banana hoard.
DK and Diddy are fighting him and the kremlings but having a problem due to a pirate ship providing K.Rool cover fire. (K.Rool gameplay trailer)

Suddenly the outline of a small monkey jumps up from the trees and disappears in the lenses flare of the sun. Then suddenly the sun gets eclipsed by the figure of an elephant and plummets to the ground. Knocking the Kremlings away. Then the elephant transforms in to Shantae as she exclaims " Ret 2 Go"

(Gameplay trailer, needs one shot of DK, Diddy, and monkey Shantae in a row. )

Trailer ends with K.Rool's ship sinking in the distance. And DK is playing Bongos while Diddy and Shantae Dance in front the banana hoard.

Small bonus of this trailer is all 4 characters/designs are of western origin.

 

[WingedSupernova]

You know who else is sometimes a pirate?
K.Rool.

Imagine the trailer they could come up with with DK,Diddy, Shantae, and K.Rool.

K.Rool as a pirate is attempting to steal DK's Banana hoard.
DK and Diddy are fighting him and the kremlings but having a problem due to a pirate ship providing K.Rool cover fire. (K.Rool gameplay trailer)

Suddenly the outline of a small monkey jumps up from the trees and disappears in the lenses flare of the sun. Then suddenly the sun gets eclipsed by the figure of an elephant and plummets to the ground. Knocking the Kremlings away. Then the elephant transforms in to Shantae as she exclaims " Ret 2 Go"

(Gameplay trailer, needs one shot of DK, Diddy, and monkey Shantae in a row. )

Trailer ends with K.Rool's ship sinking in the distance. And DK is playing Bongos while Diddy and Shantae Dance in front the banana hoard.

 

[SneakyLink]

Image appears broken to me.

You know who else is sometimes a pirate?
K.Rool.

Imagine the trailer they could come up with with DK,Diddy, Shantae, and K.Rool.

K.Rool as a pirate is attempting to steal DK's Banana hoard.
DK and Diddy are fighting him and the kremlings but having a problem due to a pirate ship providing K.Rool cover fire. (K.Rool gameplay trailer)

Suddenly the outline of a small monkey jumps up from the trees and disappears in the lenses flare of the sun. Then suddenly the sun gets eclipsed by the figure of an elephant and plummets to the ground. Knocking the Kremlings away. Then the elephant transforms in to Shantae as she exclaims " Ret 2 Go"

(Gameplay trailer, needs one shot of DK, Diddy, and monkey Shantae in a row. )

Trailer ends with K.Rool's ship sinking in the distance. And DK is playing Bongos while Diddy and Shantae Dance in front the banana hoard.

Small bonus of this trailer is all 4 characters/designs are of western origin.

Seems like a great concept for a trailer.

 

[Deleted member]

Image appears broken to me.


Seems like a great concept for a trailer.

I'm also in team K.Rool for Smash. So this would be super hype for me.

 

[BigShad]

Protip: If you're trying to paste images, right-click and select 'Copy Image.' I assume you're trying to link them from imgur?

That being said, for that trailer idea, I've got two cool catchphrases. When K. Rool is revealed, it could be like "K. Rool finally ships in!" and Shantae's could be "Shantae ain't doing monkey business!"

 

[Shinuto]

So you know how they're rumoring that the new Fire Emblem game for the Switch is going to be pirate themed? What if, after they've announced a pirate character from that game is getting into Smash, they reveal Shantae and incorporate it into a misdirection for her reveal? It'd go something along the lines of how they did Bayonetta's reveal, and the huge negative reaction at the beginning when they start by showing a Fire Emblem character would be hilarious. I mean, Shantae's main rival is a pirate so I think it's a good fit. Just a shower thought I had lol.

what the hell Pirate Fire Emblem? I dont buy that.

Also if Shantae gets revealed what would you expect the first bits of fanart to be?

 

[conTAgi0n]

How many of you have played the DLC campaigns for Half Genie Hero? I'm curious about your opinions on it.

I just finished replaying the main campaign of HGH, and so I'm finally starting the Risky DLC. My impressions so far:

Gameplay
I felt kind of underwhelmed with how Risky feels to play as at first. She controls fine I guess, but nothing special. However, after a level and a half, playing as Risky is slowly starting to grow on me, so I'm reserving judgment.

Level design
I'm not surprised I guess, but the fact that it's all the same levels as the main campaign, but with different enemies, is what disappoints me most about the DLC so far. It wouldn't be quite so bad if the main campaign didn't already involve so much backtracking through them. By the time you are going through these levels as Risky, you've seen them all at least 3-4 times already.

Story
I'm putting this in a spoiler box for those who really really do not want to risk even the slightest spoilers. However I'm not actually mentioning any plot points, and I've only just started the Risky campaign myself, so I don't think you really have to worry.

Spoiler

Sadly the "story", to the extent that it deserves to be referred as such, seems really weak so far. Just a simple "collect these 5 things" mission. Doesn't seem like you learn anything meaningful about Risky, or her motivations, or the events of the main campaign. Of course, I can't pass a final judgment until I finish the whole campaign - maybe the "collect these things" mission is just the beginning, and there are more interesting developments after that. We shall see...

Overall
My initial impression is that the DLC is really disappointing. Half the price of the main game for basically just a second playable character, who isn't as much fun as the main one. Unless it gets better, which is still possible, I don't recommend it.

Most likely I will eventually cave and buy the Rottytops/Bolo/Sky DLC anyway though, just because I really want to try playing as those characters. At least that DLC has to give me 3 more playable characters at least, if nothing else.


What do you guys think? Anyone have a more positive impression than I have so far?

 

[Shinuto]

How many of you have played the DLC campaigns for Half Genie Hero? I'm curious about your opinions on it.

I just finished replaying the main campaign of HGH, and so I'm finally starting the Risky DLC. My impressions so far:

Gameplay
I felt kind of underwhelmed with how Risky feels to play as at first. She controls fine I guess, but nothing special. However, after a level and a half, playing as Risky is slowly starting to grow on me, so I'm reserving judgment.

Level design
I'm not surprised I guess, but the fact that it's all the same levels as the main campaign, but with different enemies, is what disappoints me most about the DLC so far. It wouldn't be quite so bad if the main campaign didn't already involve so much backtracking through them. By the time you are going through these levels as Risky, you've seen them all at least 3-4 times already.

Story
I'm putting this in a spoiler box for those who really really do not want to risk even the slightest spoilers. However I'm not actually mentioning any plot points, and I've only just started the Risky campaign myself, so I don't think you really have to worry.

Spoiler

Sadly the "story", to the extent that it deserves to be referred as such, seems really weak so far. Just a simple "collect these 5 things" mission. Doesn't seem like you learn anything meaningful about Risky, or her motivations, or the events of the main campaign. Of course, I can't pass a final judgment until I finish the whole campaign - maybe the "collect these things" mission is just the beginning, and there are more interesting developments after that. We shall see...

Overall
My initial impression is that the DLC is really disappointing. Half the price of the main game for basically just a second playable character, who isn't as much fun as the main one. Unless it gets better, which is still possible, I don't recommend it.

Most likely I will eventually cave and buy the Rottytops/Bolo/Sky DLC anyway though, just because I really want to try playing as those characters. At least that DLC has to give me 3 more playable characters at least, if nothing else.


What do you guys think? Anyone have a more positive impression than I have so far?

Ha well IM waiting for my SUPERIOR VERSION the Ultimate Dayone Edition physical release from Amazon.

 

[conTAgi0n]

I would have liked to get the Ultimate Day One Edition, but I already bought a physical copy of the game for Wii U, and then bought it digitally on Switch when it went on sale with the Risky Boots DLC, before I knew about the special edition. I'm not gonna buy it a third time lol.

 

[Shinuto]

I would have liked to get the Ultimate Day One Edition, but I already bought a physical copy of the game for Wii U, and then bought it digitally on Switch when it went on sale with the Risky Boots DLC, before I knew about the special edition. I'm not gonna buy it a third time lol.

Thats what you get for not being patient. I get through this the blue bikini only available through it lol for a non backer like me.

 

[Deleted member]

I already have the base game and dlc on steam,(got it on sale) But when I bought my switch a month ago I went ahead and preordered the physical version.
I've only beat base story and Friends to the end.

 

[Shadow Novus]

Dunno if anyone's familiar with Nintendo Life but Shantae made his list of wanted Smash Characters and it made me happy

 

[Shinuto]

Take with a grain of salt but we've got a leaker who is known for for some legit leaks https://mobile.twitter.com/Marcus_Sellars/status/979474437421588481before.

 

[WingedSupernova]

Take with a grain of salt but we've got a leaker who is known for for some legit leaks https://mobile.twitter.com/Marcus_Sellars/status/979474437421588481before.

I'll take it with a grain of salt, but I hope it's true. In the past he's been wrong a lot, but he's gotten a fair amount right recently including Crash Bandicoot and the date for the 3.8.18 direct.

 

[Deleted member]

Take with a grain of salt but we've got a leaker who is known for for some legit leaks https://mobile.twitter.com/Marcus_Sellars/status/979474437421588481before.

3rd parties heavily represented.... one can hope

 

[Deleted member]

Reading the tweet a bit more. With the exception of the "Heavily represented" comment (which itself is vague enough) is a pretty safe guess.

We have known the Ice Climbers were only cut because 3ds limitations.
And a good story/ adventure was heavily requested. And out being Co Op is par for the course.