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Shantae, the Half Genie Protector of Scuttle Town! (A Switch To A New WayForward)

Do you think shantae can make it?

  • Yes, as a fighter

  • Yes, as a assist trophy

  • No, not as a assist trophy

  • No, not at all


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Mario9919

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Of course WayForward would tweet some message about how thrilled they are to have Shantae as a Spirit, and thanking fans for their support. Even if WayForward were also actively negotiating for Shantae as DLC, even if she were already decided on as DLC, I can't imagine WF not tweeting something to that effect.

I get what you mean, if would be weird for them to NOT say something about Shantae's appearence, but I think them refusing to talk about DLC leans more toward that's just part of the deal rather than Shantae actually being a hidden extra character.
Exactly. That just points to her being DLC and they just wanted to give us a sneak peak of our Half Genie. Them being silent still in terms about the DLC questions just point to her being a DLC character. Which is good!
 

TJKBird

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Exactly. That just points to her being DLC and they just wanted to give us a sneak peak of our Half Genie. Them being silent still in terms about the DLC questions just point to her being a DLC character. Which is good!
How often does WF actually respond to questions regarding Shantae's inclusion in other games? I don't twitter so I have no idea how to look through their tweets or responses or whatever. Is it really that strange for them to not respond to questions about her inclusion in something? Like if we asked if she could show up as DLC in like Soul Calibur or something else should we really expect a response?
 

Mario9919

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How often does WF actually respond to questions regarding Shantae's inclusion in other games? I don't twitter so I have no idea how to look through their tweets or responses or whatever. Is it really that strange for them to not respond to questions about her inclusion in something? Like if we asked if she could show up as DLC in like Soul Calibur or something else should we really expect a response?
As of now, they haven't responded to her as DLC in Smash Ultimate.
 

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Well I'll hope for DLC but I'm cool if, at the end of the day she's a Spirit. Means you get to fight against her and with her by proxy.

Starring
Zero Suit Samus as Shantae
and
Pirate ship as Risky's Ship
 

TJKBird

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As of now, they haven't responded to her as DLC in Smash Ultimate.
Yes but that wasn't what I was asking. I was asking how often they actually respond to/answer inquires to Shantae's inclusion in other games. Like I said if we were to ask if she was going to be DLC in Soul Calibur or SFV or something should we actually expect a response? I mean I get that they actively pushed for her in Smash but would they actually respond to those inquiries? Did they ever talk about her as DLC in Smash 4 outside of asking people to rally for her?
 

Hyfiner

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Not sure if brought up, but I had a thought. What do you guys think we'll get for beating Classic and All-Star modes? Those modes usually reward you trophies, so are we getting spirits for the main cast?

If so, that blows the whole "spirits can't be fighters" argument right out of the water.
The thing about spirits is that Sakurai advertised them as a spiritual successor to the old trophies. So it would be logical to compare the two.

Given the fact that playable characters do have trophies, it's not a big leap of logic to assume that there will be spirits based on the characters as well.

Mecha Ridley being a spirit does help confirm that but it could also be argued that it's not original Ridley so it doesn't count.

Maybe it's just wishful thinking I just want characters like Geno,Dixie and Shantae to have a chance.

How often does WF actually respond to questions regarding Shantae's inclusion in other games? I don't twitter so I have no idea how to look through their tweets or responses or whatever. Is it really that strange for them to not respond to questions about her inclusion in something? Like if we asked if she could show up as DLC in like Soul Calibur or something else should we really expect a response?
It's mainly based on Wayforward's previous level of activity which was pretty high. They were directly involved with Shantae's promotion during the ballot and do a good job of talking with the community on twitter. Now it's a bit different.

Namely the cookie-cutter replies when Shantae's involvement in fighing games (Smash or indie) is brought up. It was one of the main points we had for Shantae's inclusion for Smash since we thought they were under NDA. Maybe they still are who knows.
 

Swade

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Wow, that post from Matt rekindled my flame for Shantae as a playable character in a heartbeat.
 

zferolie

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Well that tweet sure is interesting. Its saying she isn't planned(maybe) yet for dlc, but she has a chance, meaning spirit didn't KO her.

This is good... not just for her but other spirits too
 
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Hyfiner

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Welp bad news: she doesn't seemed to be planned DLC? At least that's what I'm assuming.

But good news(and more importantly):now we have a new plan. Matt has raised the flag and now it's up to the soldiers to fight the war.

We must fight for her inclusion with all our might as the spokespeople for Shantae.

Even if we have to wait for the last DLC announcement we will not waver. We will not surrender until the Mashed Potato Samurai says otherwise.
#ShantaeForFourOutOfTheFiveSmashDLCs LETSGETRET2GOOOOOOOOOOOO
 

EarlTamm

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Matt clearly has faith, and he was thoughtful about this. Notice how he released this tweet not to long after the reveal, but not so immediate that it was in the time where most of the fans were in emotional distress. It's clear he has his eyes on the fanbase, and I find that heartwarming.
 

Shadow Novus

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And just like that, Matt has re-lit the flame!
SO LONG AS WE HAVE HOPE, LET US CONTINUE GIVING OUR SUPPORT!!!


Sorry I got a bit excited there!


Welp bad news: she doesn't seemed to be planned DLC? At least that's what I'm assuming.

But good news(and more importantly):now we have a new plan. Matt has raised the flag and now it's up to the soldiers to fight the war.

We must fight for her inclusion with all our might as the spokespeople for Shantae.

Even if we have to wait for the last DLC announcement we will not waver. We will not surrender until the Mashed Potato Samurai says otherwise.
#ShantaeForFourOutOfTheFiveSmashDLCs LETSGETRET2GOOOOOOOOOOOO
Here's the thing: from my understanding: no one has truly been planned for DLC yet as they are prioritizing the base game. So that's not truly a point against us. So let's have some faith! :D
 
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zferolie

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Welp bad news: she doesn't seemed to be planned DLC? At least that's what I'm assuming.

But good news(and more importantly):now we have a new plan. Matt has raised the flag and now it's up to the soldiers to fight the war.

We must fight for her inclusion with all our might as the spokespeople for Shantae.

Even if we have to wait for the last DLC announcement we will not waver. We will not surrender until the Mashed Potato Samurai says otherwise.
#ShantaeForFourOutOfTheFiveSmashDLCs LETSGETRET2GOOOOOOOOOOOO
Got to say, love the hashtag lol.

But what if this is all a hoax to make use lower our gaurd and then... BOOM shes the second DLC and she was planned ALL ALONG?!
 

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Well I say what we do is keep the community hope up in general.

If Sakurai hasn't decided on what 5 characters, we may be the nudge needed. Otherwise we can get Shantae in to Season 2 of DLC or get her added to Super DUPER Smash Bros.
 

MajestyIndigo

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First, we need to gather all the supporters and spread this tweet ! This work on the DLCs have not started yet it seems which means we have a whole month to strike
 
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EarlTamm

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Well I say what we do is keep the community hope up in general.

If Sakurai hasn't decided on what 5 characters, we may be the nudge needed. Otherwise we can get Shantae in to Season 2 of DLC or get her added to Super DUPER Smash Bros.
From what I hear the 5 characters have already been long decided, but that does not mean there will be no season 2 for DLC. Heck, I would be shocked if there was no season 2.
 

Hollywoodrok12

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Bozon's trying to restart the DLC campaign? I'm sorry to say but for Smash Ultimate, there are many signs pointing to all 5 slots being decided before development for the main game finished, so I don't think we can make it.

As for Smash 6/7 (depending on whether or not you count the 3DS version) or a Season 2 of DLC if it happens...

 
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zferolie

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Well I say what we do is keep the community hope up in general.

If Sakurai hasn't decided on what 5 characters, we may be the nudge needed. Otherwise we can get Shantae in to Season 2 of DLC or get her added to Super DUPER Smash Bros.
I would be fine for Shantae in wave 2 DLC. I think its obvious we will get that, as the switch has many years left and Nintendo will milk this game.

First, we need to gather all the supporters and spread this tweet ! This work on the DLCs have not started yet it seems which means we have a whole month to strike
Say, didn't Matt and wayforward say in the final Half Genie hero kickstarter update that they may call upon us again in the future.... could this be the call or the start of it?
 

TJKBird

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Got to say, love the hashtag lol.

But what if this is all a hoax to make use lower our gaurd and then... BOOM shes the second DLC and she was planned ALL ALONG?!
I really don't want to spawn any tinfoil hat theories but his word choice for a hashtag is somewhat odd no? Unless my english is failng me doesn't "for four out of the five" imply all four spots? While I personally imagine it was just a typo it seems like a somewhat funny rallying cry, I would think he should have said "one of the five" right?

Also happy that he is hopeful, even if he is just doing it for the fans to cheer them up its still really great that he's cheering with us!
 

MajestyIndigo

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Bozon's trying to restart the DLC campaign? I'm sorry to say but for Smash Ultimate, there are many signs pointing to all 5 slots being decided before development for the main game finished, so I don't think we can make it.

As for Smash 6/7 (depending on whether or not you count the 3DS version) or a Season 2 of DLC if it happens...

Don't you believe for a split second that he is in a better place than you, than us, to know wheter it's too late or not ?

EDIT : and even if it's too late, I really want to fight that war just for the sake of these amazing devs
 
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zferolie

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I really don't want to spawn any tinfoil hat theories but his word choice for a hashtag is somewhat odd no? Unless my english is failng me doesn't "for four out of the five" imply all four spots? While I personally imagine it was just a typo it seems like a somewhat funny rallying cry, I would think he should have said "one of the five" right?

Also happy that he is hopeful, even if he is just doing it for the fans to cheer them up its still really great that he's cheering with us!
I think the hashtag was meant to be amusing/silly. it fits with how they do things.

Also, maybe this is hinting she always has one of the slots, but they want more, those greedy men
 

WreckitRyan

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Why is Matt saying four out of the five though? There's still five DLC spots left to be unveiled...
 
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