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Shantae, the Half Genie Protector of Scuttle Town! (A Switch To A New WayForward)

Do you think shantae can make it?

  • Yes, as a fighter

  • Yes, as a assist trophy

  • No, not as a assist trophy

  • No, not at all


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Honestly today is a win.
We can be sad she's playable via base roster. But she has her foot in the door.

So everyone. Take a day to lick you wounds. The fight isn't over.

There is still hope.
Its unknown if spirit means deconfirmed.
DLC is a thing. And as smash 4 showed us with Mewtwo DLC doesn't have to fully incorporated into every mode. Like I don't think piranha plant is going to be part of the story mode.
 

zferolie

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There's this I guess? We don't know if companies DLC fighters belong to are under NDA at all. Absolutely nothing is certain right now and all we can do is wait until the first DLC fighter is revealed before we can begin proper speculation.

At the very least we aren't actually dead lmaoooo
I am happy shantae is in, and I am sure being a spirit means nothing, as we have actual fighters having spirits as well.

The death nail would have been an AT, and it sucks Isaac got pushed to that.

As for 5 DLC. I want. I assume all will be new series, since all are getting stages and tracks.

Shantae

Geno(Or Sora Or Slime)

Rhythmn Heaven

Some Retro

Banjo And Kazooie.
 

LaBeteNoire

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You can bet i'll be using shantae as a spirit, at least.
I wonder if we can have online battles with them too, I didnt pay enough attention
Have A feeling that, like equipment and custom moves before, spirits probably won't be used online. And in local vs matches I can't imagine everyone setting up their spirits before a match...

I don't know, I don't see spirits being used much at all... Like best I can imagine is you can save your spirit build to an amiibo so you can use the ones you want when playing I'm a friend's switch.
 

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Also, it seems you can use Spirits as your Lobby Avatar, so I will be using Shantae for sure!
 

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I just hope we can "rank up" spirits so that we can stick with ones we like and not be forced to use the higher-level ones.
 

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Alright, now that the leaks have been killed off and the speculation is over for the most part, I hope the dust has settled here.

Either way, today we achieved not the big victory we've been hoping for, but a small one.
Shantae wasn't deconfirmed as an Assist Trophy.

Spirits are supposed to be replacement for Trophies.
And Trophies were promoted to playable characters in previous Smash games later on.
Like Mewtwo in Smash 4, who started out as trophy, but became a DLC-character later.

With that in mind, Shantae still has a chance.
Don't give up and keep fighting! :D
 
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Perhaps there's still hope for Shantae yet. Along with each new DLC fighter comes a new stage and song track. Shantae, who we now know exists in the Smash-verse and apply the knowledge of MewTwo in Smash 4 who still became a fighter despite having a trophy, has the best tracks.
Well from the ballot, not much. I can think of Sora(if KH3 comes to Switch) Banjo and Kazooie(for a classic Switch release) and Shantae of course.
 

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Have A feeling that, like equipment and custom moves before, spirits probably won't be used online. And in local vs matches I can't imagine everyone setting up their spirits before a match...

I don't know, I don't see spirits being used much at all... Like best I can imagine is you can save your spirit build to an amiibo so you can use the ones you want when playing I'm a friend's switch.
It doesnt seem to take long to set up 3 spirits, and it definitely as 'some' potential for customizability, so I do hope people play with them, obviously not at the competitive tournaments, but for fun, and because I want to equip shantae and others :)
 

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I think I know what character is getting one of the DLC slots. I bet my money is another Fire Emblem Character. Probably from Three Houses.
 

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I basically blitzed through the direct in my lunch break.

The World of Light things looks amazing but I dunno how to feel about Shantae being a spirit.

I mean I'm happy she's in the game but, I have a sinking feeling this might be it. I don't want to give up hope though. But right now I just need to take it in I guess.

Can only wait until sometime next year when the DLC starts coming out I guess...
 

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Sorry guys watching isabelle play :)
Hope they play more
 
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I know there's still a chance for her to be DLC. But DLC is planned near launch, while Wayforward was silenced way before then. And after the way they were pushing her as a Smash Ballot vote with even 8 costumes for her, it doesn't seem like a Spirit would be enough. Something's not right. Why would all that hype be for a sticker?
 

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Okay, while its okay to be disappointed, this is just kind of rude...

It already takes a lot of effort to make a fighter, or even just an assist trophy. A spirit is a lot better than a trophy, because you can at least use it and have fun. The only concern is the possibility you cant "rank up" spirits. I'd like to be able to just stick with ones I like and not be essentially forced to use higher level ones.
A spirit is just a glorified sticker, nothing more. A trophy was a 3D model (and for some retro character, that was awesome), now we just have pre-existing images. I prefered trophies. Spirits feel like they tried to put everything into one mode. The result is a lame adventure mode, some discount event matches and glorified stickers instead of trophies. It may be rude but here, Sakurai treated people like crap.

But that's typical from Sakurai, he's always telling people how hard this is to make everything. I trusted him and still trust him for Brawl and Smash 4. But I don't trust him for Ultimate. Sakurai telling how hard everything is when in fact this Smash Bros was probably one of the easiest to make is just storytelling and I don't like that kind of hypocrisy.
 

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I never cared much about Shantae, in fact I didn't even know about her until I saw the campaigns for the ballot.
But this? You people voted, fought and asked for representation and all you get is a .png from an older game? This is plain awful and I feel you guys. I can't even be slightly happy about Isaac being AT least an AT again, but his model looks absolutely awful.
 

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Well I hate to sound pompous or rude but we're now the the largest newcomer thread that hasnt been hard deconfirme via showing up as an Assist Trophy.
 

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Piranha plant doesn't count towards the 5 DLC correct?
Correct!
http://smashbros.nintendo.com/buy/
Piranha Plant will also be available as paid DLC (separate from Fighters Pass content) at a later time.
Well I hate to sound pompous or rude but we're now the the largest newcomer thread that hasnt been hard deconfirme via showing up as an Assist Trophy.
I can't even imagine what it's like to be an Isaac fan right now.
 
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Piranha plant doesn't count towards the 5 DLC correct?
As far as we know, no.

Also, please tell Alpha Stoutland that it's not over yet.
Even playable characters like WII Fit Trainer have Spirits/Stickers.
So there's still hope for Shantae.
 

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CHeer up guys. I know its sad seeing her as just a spirit, but we can't be sure its the end yet. These 5 DLC characters could be anyone, and spirits can also be fighters(we have K rool and Wii Fit Trainer spirits) so shantae and others are not out of the woods yet. We just need to wait awhile.

In the mean time, lets enjoy the game we have, 75 fighters(with the plant), World of Light looks really fun(love the song in it) The japanese song in it is great.


The Gameplay looks fun and fluid too. I think Sakurai choose poorly though on who to end on. If he ended on K Rool? we would be still quite hype. Ending on Ken and Incineroar, while both look hella fun to play, isn't as hype as K Rool or others for sure.
 

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Well today was good news for us.

Shantae is in the game
Not an AT
There is DLC
 

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Not sure if anyone nopticed, but Custom moves are back for Mii FIghters(the moves change as they were showing off the costums on the custom screen) I assumed they were gone to.

Makes you wonder if Mii Fighters will be tourny legal or still banned, or if their base moves will be better, or all be equally viable so people can use what they like.

Ugh and Daisy gets that awful old Peach final smash. How lazy.
Wait they showed it? **** I am not watching the treehouse atm... I'll have to watch it later
 
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I'm a isabelle main(in game) for now guys ;p

until shantae makes it in of course
 
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I still kinda cant believe she's in at all, though but I will say that reveal SECONDS before the direct ended was like a sort of shot to the face you know? I look at it as still hopeful but it was like oh ****right at the end she's in the game!"
 

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So as far as we know, the DLC characters will bring their own stage PLUS music tracks, meaning they’ll likely be from series not represented in Smash before as playable. Nearly every original IP is represented in Smash in some way so I think it’s fair to assume a good chunk of DLC will be third-party. I believe there’ll be a good chance she’ll be upgraded and the spirit has gotten her foot in the door.

Also at this point the only other Japanese third party characters I could see with their own stages and music lists are Geno and Ryu Hayabusa. So I think this could be the opportunity to finally see some Western third party characters in
 
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Honestly i'm happy that Shantae is in the game, better than not being there at all
 

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Can we guess who sang the english version of Lifelight?

Its a guess to try and find out.
 

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I just recovered from infinity way and Nintendo does almost the same exact thing. I bet out of 14 million possibilities Shulk only saw one possibility for winning.
 

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Piranha plant doesn't count towards the 5 DLC correct?
I'm assuming not since they said it would be free for a time while the season pass of 5 fighters will be $25. So if each pack of fighter/stage/music is $5.99, the pass essentially saves you a buck each, but if PP was one of the 5, you would actually lose money buying the fighter pass.
 

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A spirit is just a glorified sticker, nothing more. A trophy was a 3D model (and for some retro character, that was awesome), now we just have pre-existing images. I prefered trophies. Spirits feel like they tried to put everything into one mode. The result is a lame adventure mode, some discount event matches and glorified stickers instead of trophies. It may be rude but here, Sakurai treated people like crap.

But that's typical from Sakurai, he's always telling people how hard this is to make everything. I trusted him and still trust him for Brawl and Smash 4. But I don't trust him for Ultimate. Sakurai telling how hard everything is when in fact this Smash Bros was probably one of the easiest to make is just storytelling and I don't like that kind of hypocrisy.
"Treated people like crap"

As though Sakurai went out of his way to disappoint you on purpose?

And the easiest Smash to make based on what? Ultimate probably took a lot from Sm4sh. But Sm4sh took a lot from Brawl and Brawl took a lot from Melee. Doesn't change the fact that all of the new content that needed to be added still took a lot of work.

Right off the helm of Sm4sh, they pull him back and make him develop another game. He added a good chunk of content to make Ultimate all it's own and that includes of lot of things people have been asking for; newcomers like Ridley, Simon, and K. Rool, every veteran returns, almost every stage returns, hazard toggle, FS meter, lots of the usual additions in items, assists, Pokemon, etc. The amount of content in this game is absurd and yet people ask as though it has less than every game before it.

The absence of trophies was unfortunate, I'm a bit disappointed about it as well, but bringing over and at times having to create brand new models from scratch in a game already filled to the brim with content is going to take time away that could be spent doing something else. I'll always prefer trophies, but spirits are a fair compromise given that it allows for even more characters to at least show up in some form while actually taking up less space in the games files and freeing up a bit of time and manpower to work on the rest of the game.

There's a lot of new content in this game just like every Smash before it, and the sheer amount of total content dwarfs that of past games. If said content doesn't wow you or fit your particular tastes, or there are aspects you just disagree with and dislike that's fine, but you're going to call Sakurai a hypocrite for trying his damn hardest to please people with all this fanservice in a series that's already full of it?

You just sound entitled.
 

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Well I just got to see Isabelle, Pichu, Jigglipuff and Daisy, and they all look good and fun :)

So, I'm still not glad at all about the disappointing, but I'm glad about the characters i wanted to use up to now :)
 

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Well I just got to see Isabelle, Pichu, Jigglipuff and Daisy, and they all look good and fun :)

So, I'm still not glad at all about the disappointing, but I'm glad about the characters i wanted to use up to now :)
I have to watch the treehouse later, but I am happy Juigglypuff and Daisy look good. Daisy was someone I never expect but was very happy i heard she was in, even as an echo
 

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I have to watch the treehouse later, but I am happy Juigglypuff and Daisy look good. Daisy was someone I never expect but was very happy i heard she was in, even as an echo
Daisy looks fast! I assume peach is the same, but I think they're going to be really good in this game :)
 
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