Shantae, the Half Genie Protector of Scuttle Town! (A Switch To A New WayForward)

[Shinuto]

Or maybe after every failed attempt at pranking Shantae, Skull Kid throws a huge tantrum and brings down the moon. The genie panics, not knowing what to do and out comes the Fierce Deity knocking Skull Kid off the screen like he would in-game and turns back into Young Link. He and Shantae then do a victory dance together with Kamaro's Mask equipped.

You ****** you just made me imagine Shantae with that horrifying mask on her face.

 

[perfectchaos83]

Shifting gears a bit, I'm interested in the charagumin figures. Does anyone know how often American-made characters are presented in their line-up?

Word of advice, it's a Garage Kit. Essentially, it comes unassembled and you have to paint it yourself. Just a word of advice before purchase.

 

[WingedSupernova]

So...anyone think that the Nindie showcase could potential reveal a new Shantae game? I know it's a long shot since they are only recently calling 1/2 Genie Hero done, but I'm still up for more hair-whipping goodness!

I wouldn't think so. Maybe a new Mighty Switch Force is in the works, or even a new IP from Wayforward, but I don't think a new Shantae game is very likely.

 

[Shinuto]

Word of advice, it's a Garage Kit. Essentially, it comes unassembled and you have to paint it yourself. Just a word of advice before purchase.

How much of a pain the ass is the painting process?

 

[Captain Hazama]

How much of a pain the *** is the painting process?

Ever paint Warhammer 40k figures? If you can do that with great detail, you are golden.

 

[EarlTamm]

You know, what do you guys think her alternate colors are gonna be? While I love the concept Wayforward did, I doubt they would get more than one costume. I imagine that she will just have colors that reference her friends, as well as her blue outfit. If she were to get a costume, I feel like it would Be her Jammies. Not only would it reference the Jammies Mode, but it is her most recurring alternate outfit that is not the Space Princess outfit.

 

[Deleted member]

You know, what do you guys think her alternate colors are gonna be? While I love the concept Wayforward did, I doubt they would get more than one costume. I imagine that she will just have colors that reference her friends, as well as her blue outfit. If she were to get a costume, I feel like it would Be her Jammies. Not only would it reference the Jammies Mode, but it is her most recurring alternate outfit that is not the Space Princess outfit.

A conservative guess would just be friends/risky recolors.

more more out there guess is Jammies, and maybe Pirate outfit?

 

[Teeb147]

This post was to reply to Jazzy. I'm going to put in spoiler tags likewise because It's a bit long and I'm not even sure I want to leave it here:

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With all due respect, you psycho-analyze people on this board too much. You seem to be under the assumption that I (and others in other threads) are speaking from a place of emotional instability or immaturity, and you tend to dismiss lines of logical reasoning that you find to be outside of your line. Just because you can't infer something in the same manner doesn't mean that the inference is impossible or unsound.

I'm not desperate for Shantae either (despite her being my #1). I would be content with an AT and I would be ecstatic with a playable character. However, I am realistic. Even now, I'd place her chances at around 30%. You might find that pessimistic, I would disagree. I'm very much a "watch and wait" type of person. I placed Geno's chances at around 30% prior to K. Rool's reveal and the confirmation of the ballot being used. Now I'd say he has a 70% chance in lieu of new information. If she can survive another AT massacre later down the line, I would place her chances significantly higher.

You say you'd rather keep the discussion optimistic as "we need it for our aims" but I would posit that a balanced discussion of both detracting views and supporting views is more conducive to her salience as a potential newcomer. If we're all just in here being overly optimistic then we'll be placing ourselves in a confirmation bias bubble. A fate that, sadly, befell the Ashley fanbase. However, having a true to form debate can be great in terms of bringing her cons to light and diminishing their value as points against her.

Personally, I'd be more than happy to "lose" the debate as her cons would seem less and less valid.~

Again, no disrespect. I have no doubt you're being well-intentioned but I simply do not appreciate the dismissiveness of your tone towards myself and others.:

Hi jazzy. I'm going to properly respond to you this time. I haven't read the next 2 pages so I'm not sure if there's something important after, but I'm a little perplexed by your post, so let's just go for it. This might end up a bit long and some things might go over normal talk, but I want to voice my heart here.

You can stop saying that you respect, I'd rather have a down to earth talk. I feel like you make a lot of assumptions. That's what I get from reading what you're saying. At least, I don't quite get how this all applies to me, feel free to explain. I guess to some degree I consider everyone emotionally immature, including myself, because that's just how people are, that to me is just being realistic about where we're at. I'm not sure what I'm dismissing, but I base what I see between if it's narrow or open. There's always different ways to see things, and more information changes things. In this case, you concluded things so fast about the interview (and possibly other stuff), that I'm actually blown away. I haven't seen anyone quite like you, and in a way it's a great privilege to get to see it, and possibly to get to you know you, because it tells me that you're someone who's emotionally sensitive, in some ways, and to me that's kind of a prize. I overlook the parts that might be rash, because of the wealth of potential I see in that. I'm not sure how to explain it, and it might just be an impression I have, but I'm glad you're here, even if you provide a great contrast to the optimism I want to aim for.

In fact, I'm incredibly pleased by balance, and welcome your take with open arms, not just in itself but because it brings an opportunity for me and others to try to balance the great low that you bring to the table. I never said I wanted to keep discussions optimistic, you concluded that on your own, but I appreciate that you bring that side to you, because it does allow me to contrast your take with my optimism. I'm glad you're here, and I appreciate you.
Like I was trying to say, confirmation bias happens with any emotion, be it pessimism or optimism. I'm about wholeness and balance. The thing is, and this may sound odd, but I might actually end up being pessimistic if there was too much optimism here, and it's partly because of the scales that I find myself being optimistic, not just because of those here, but because there's inbalance in myself and I need a lot more positivity in my life.
I psycho-analyze myself, so that might carry over in how I see others sometimes It's just where I'm at, and I notice inbalance, and how it affects perception and limits a healthy approach to hopes, expectations, aims, and carries over into how we talk with each other. On one end it's all just like.. whatever, it is what it is, but on the other it's important to how we grow as people and interact with one another.

I'm not afraid to be disappointed, but you and many others are, and it makes it hard for me to totally understand where you are, and really I want to say it's ok, no matter what happens, just enjoy the the possibility, and see how it's possible. And the contrast is so big in some cases that it's really easy to see how you're keeping yourself away from optimism because you're afraid of being disappointed. Really, it shows, because there are so many other ways to look at it and see that it's possible, not just as an AT, but for playable. We don't know either way, we just have to look at the possibilities openly. I understand that's not always easy to do and it just makes sense to you to be realistic in a pessimistic way, but I've been there and I'm quite a ways away from there, in some respects, so I can only say what I know about all this, in hopes that it helps bring some balance not just as a whole, but for you too. And if I can't, and you're happy enough with how you're approaching things, that's ok with me, and I'll try not to impose my views on you. I just hope that you also can understand that you're coming from where you are, with how you've come to be, and that others may be in very different places.

That's all I can think to say for now. Sorry for the speech lol. I hope all goes well, and I'm open to talking more if you want to.
wishing the best.

Other than that, go Shantae XD

 

[Wademan94]

You know, what do you guys think her alternate colors are gonna be? While I love the concept Wayforward did, I doubt they would get more than one costume. I imagine that she will just have colors that reference her friends, as well as her blue outfit. If she were to get a costume, I feel like it would Be her Jammies. Not only would it reference the Jammies Mode, but it is her most recurring alternate outfit that is not the Space Princess outfit.

Here's my guess for her palette swaps/alt. costumes:

-Default/Red
-Blue: The blue palette swap Backer costume
-Purple: Based off Nega Shantae (eyes would be yellow and pupil less)
-Green: Based off Rottytops
-Yellow: Based off Sky
-Navy: Based off Bolo
-Pirate: Based off her pirate outfit from Pirate’s Curse
-Jammies: Based off her pajamas from Pirate’s Curse/Half-Genie Hero

I'll probably make some artwork about those ideas sometime soon, so expect to see that posted here sometime

 

[Veodok]

Word of advice, it's a Garage Kit. Essentially, it comes unassembled and you have to paint it yourself. Just a word of advice before purchase.

Reading through their provided manual makes it out to be already painted, just not assembled.

 

[perfectchaos83]

Reading through their provided manual makes it out to be already painted, just not assembled.

Is that so? My experience is that all garage kits need to be painted.

 

[Veodok]

Is that so? My experience is that all garage kits need to be painted.

Maybe some others, but it looks like CharaGumin figures are all pre-colored. This page explains it.

 

[Biometal]

Shantae's good history, her apparent popularity in Japan, her positive ballot ranking, the speculated hints in Sakurai's rooms, WayForward's inconspicuous silence, the enormous amount of support and tweets she's been getting, etc...

I just hope that it all isn't for naught, like putting in a huge order at a restaurant and then leaving without a word once it's finally ready to be served out.

 

[CloudedSun]

My question is what size would they likely use for Shantae? I'd realistically like her chibi character form in HGH, but her size varies a little throughout the series in her portraits. It might be that she's gotten a bit shorter every iteration.

I'd assume her HGH proportions if not for Wayforward's costume sheet for her.

 

[AngrySun88]

So I watched the Jammies mode trailer again and I can't help but think that the fact that they pretty much did a Smash style trailer for it means something. Why specifically use that style, especially when Nintendo typically sends out their copyright ninjas?

There's just so much circumstantial evidence, but I'm still trying to keep my exceptions low.

 

[Parallel_Falchion]

I see people often say that Shantae's tagline should be "Shantae is Ret-2-go!" But I disagree. I think her tagline should be:

"Shantae is Ret-2-Smash!"

 

[Jave]

I'm more partial to "Shantae Grants a Wish!" or "Shantae Dances Into Battle!"

 

[WingedSupernova]

I'm more partial to "Shantae Grants a Wish!" or "Shantae Dances Into Battle!"

Not gonna lie, Shantae Grants Your Wishes would be the funniest s*** ever. I would be screaming my head off and then start laughing uncontrollably.

 

[CHAMPIONX9]

You know, what do you guys think her alternate colors are gonna be? While I love the concept Wayforward did, I doubt they would get more than one costume. I imagine that she will just have colors that reference her friends, as well as her blue outfit. If she were to get a costume, I feel like it would Be her Jammies. Not only would it reference the Jammies Mode, but it is her most recurring alternate outfit that is not the Space Princess outfit.

I want this one.

Spoiler

Easy to adjust without losing it's coolness.

BTW how much work is it for them to add costumes and palette swaps?

 

[Teeb147]

I want this one.

Spoiler

I want this one. Easy to adjust without losing it's coolness.

BTW how much work is it for them to add costumes and palette swaps?

It depends on the character, and how far they want to go. Look at Bowser Jr. That took more work but they were willing to go for it. Villager might've been a bit easier but still impressive. I'd love if Shantae had all these amazing costumes. It could be something great about her too, if they're willing to go the extra mile. Hoping for it if she's in, but really just wanting her in first

 

[Shadowknight1]

I wouldn't think so. Maybe a new Mighty Switch Force is in the works, or even a new IP from Wayforward, but I don't think a new Shantae game is very likely.

Why not? 1/2 Genie Hero has done really well from what all I've seen and heard, clearly showing that there is enough of a growing fanbase for Shantae. Surely they would take advantage of that and get a new game at least going. I'm not saying that they'd announce a release date or something, but I would think at least an acknowledgement of the next game in the series would be at least somewhat likely.

My question is what size would they likely use for Shantae? I'd realistically like her chibi character form in HGH, but her size varies a little throughout the series in her portraits. It might be that she's gotten a bit shorter every iteration.

I'd assume her HGH proportions if not for Wayforward's costume sheet for her.

I mean, by all rights WayForward has handed Sakurai a basis for a design and color alts already. I will say that I don't think they should use the HGH game sprite as the basis, but rather the portraits, presuming they don't go with the design sheet that WayForward did.

 

[WingedSupernova]

Why not? 1/2 Genie Hero has done really well from what all I've seen and heard, clearly showing that there is enough of a growing fanbase for Shantae. Surely they would take advantage of that and get a new game at least going. I'm not saying that they'd announce a release date or something, but I would think at least an acknowledgement of the next game in the series would be at least somewhat likely.

I think an announcement like that would be more likely on Wayforward's YouTube page instead of in a nindie direct.

 

[Deleted member]

I think an announcement like that would be more likely on Wayforward's YouTube page instead of in a nindie direct.

It could go either way honestly.

(Tinfoil hat on)
Unless there is a deal for exclusive Shantae games on switch as part of the smash deal.

 

[Jazzy Jinx]

Word of advice, it's a Garage Kit. Essentially, it comes unassembled and you have to paint it yourself. Just a word of advice before purchase.

Ah, I meant I was interested in it as a point of discussion but thanks for the warning. Hopefully no one pulled the trigger on purchasing it without properly learning what it was first. >_>

I ask how often American-made properties show up in the Charagumin line because it could possibly give us some insight into how popular Shantae actually is in Japan. Since, for the life of me, I can't find any sales data (for the West either). =P

Spoiler

Hi jazzy. I'm going to properly respond to you this time. I haven't read the next 2 pages so I'm not sure if there's something important after, but I'm a little perplexed by your post, so let's just go for it. This might end up a bit long and some things might go over normal talk, but I want to voice my heart here...

I understand this might be a bit rude (I don't intend to be!) but given that there's a lot here I'm going to highlight the main issues I have here and omit the rest. I hope you understand.~

...because it tells me that you're someone who's emotionally sensitive...

Here's the first thing I take issue with. I'm not emotionally sensitive.

Though I will say it is somewhat of a self-fulfilling prophecy because what does aggravate me is when someone reads intent or emotion into my actions or statements when there definitely aren't any. xD

I can accept the criticism that my interpretation could be too narrow. In light of James "reacting" to the Smash reveal, I will say that it's possible that a more "open" interpretation is available. I just believe that I have a reasonable doubt and my doubts so far have yet to be alleviated. Not that they can't be.

Keep in mind here, with all due respect (and I say "with respect" because I'm trying to emphasize that I'm not upset with you and not coming at you from an emotionally shaky place), the internet lacks vital cues that can give you insight into a person's actual demeanor. You can infer "emotional cues" or "intent" from my writing, but... that doesn't necessarily wash. Especially when you're not actually familiar with who I am as a person.

It's very often that I act more eccentric on here because I want to appear approachable and not turn people away with more frank speech patterns. If you prefer I'd speak more candidly, then I'm sorry but that wouldn't be as fun. I like my writing to have personality. As a random aside, I am a writer.

It's quite possible I'm playing a character. You simply don't know!

The fun part is you're criticizing my interpretation of James' interview while reading your own interpretation into me. xD

In fact, I'm incredibly pleased by balance, and welcome your take with open arms, not just in itself but because it brings an opportunity for me and others to try to balance the great low that you bring to the table.

Gee thanks. xD

Yeah, I get the feeling people in support threads don't necessarily want to hear any detracting viewpoints.~

I'm not afraid to be disappointed, but you and many others are

You're patently wrong. I'm not afraid to be disappointed either.

I understand that's not always easy to do and it just makes sense to you to be realistic in a pessimistic way

I specifically, preemptively addressed that I find your equation of my realism to pessimism to be wrong. So I'll re-iterate, I don't agree that my realism, in this scenario, is pessimistic. I'm a "watch and wait" type of observer. If more compelling evidence comes to the table, I'll gladly accept it.

I'm 99% sure she's represented in the game in some form if it makes you feel any better. But playable status is the holy grail for a character. It's not unreasonable for me to keep my expectations low for that when there is zero precedence for a Western-made, Western-owned, indie character to be on the roster. There's zero.

Could it happen? Absolutely! Will it happen? Let's see! Can you interpret her chances differently? Absolutely!

Personally, I think 30% is a generous ranking for any character. Keep in mind she's competing with literally thousands of other video game characters. 30% is damn good!

On top of that, I'm not an authority so you don't even need to take my estimation to heart. Hopefully my jovial manner of speaking isn't coming off sarcastically. I really, really don't mean to offend you. I can't stress this enough.

It's less constricting to speak in a more jovial manner.~

And if I can't, and you're happy enough with how you're approaching things, that's ok with me, and I'll try not to impose my views on you.

I'm perfectly content with the way I approach things. Thank you for understanding.~

I just hope that you also can understand that you're coming from where you are, with how you've come to be, and that others may be in very different places.

Naturally.~

I'm a bonafide individualist.

There were moments in your speech where you expressed confusion with which I interpreted your intent and actions; I've opted against explaining myself or reading further intent into them. Basically, I won't psycho-analyze you if you don't psycho-analyze me. I would much prefer you address my points on their own merits and leave my character out of it. Respectfully.

I consider myself to be an emotional rock. I understand the power of words and the many different interpretations that people can read into them so I won't begrudge you your interpretation of my words. I just vehemently disagree with you.

(If you need to discuss this further, we can take this to PMs.)

 

[Deleted member]

Ah, I meant I was interested in it as a point of discussion but thanks for the warning. Hopefully no one pulled the trigger on purchasing it without properly learning what it was first. >_>

I ask how often American-made properties show up in the Charagumin line because it could possibly give us some insight into how popular Shantae actually is in Japan. Since, for the life of me, I can't find any sales data (for the West either). =P

Spoiler

I understand this might be a bit rude (I don't intend to be!) but given that there's a lot here I'm going to highlight the main issues I have here and omit the rest. I hope you understand.~



Here's the first thing I take issue with. I'm not emotionally sensitive.

Though I will say it is somewhat of a self-fulfilling prophecy because what does aggravate me is when someone reads intent or emotion into my actions or statements when there definitely aren't any. xD

I can accept the criticism that my interpretation could be too narrow. In light of James "reacting" to the Smash reveal, I will say that it's possible that a more "open" interpretation is available. I just believe that I have a reasonable doubt and my doubts so far have yet to be alleviated. Not that they can't be.

Keep in mind here, with all due respect (and I say "with respect" because I'm trying to emphasize that I'm not upset with you and not coming at you from an emotionally shaky place), the internet lacks vital cues that can give you insight into a person's actual demeanor. You can infer "emotional cues" or "intent" from my writing, but... that doesn't necessarily wash. Especially when you're not actually familiar with who I am as a person.

It's very often that I act more eccentric on here because I want to appear approachable and not turn people away with more frank speech patterns. If you prefer I'd speak more candidly, then I'm sorry but that wouldn't be as fun. I like my writing to have personality. As a random aside, I am a writer.

It's quite possible I'm playing a character. You simply don't know!

The fun part is you're criticizing my interpretation of James' interview while reading your own interpretation into me. xD



Gee thanks. xD

Yeah, I get the feeling people in support threads don't necessarily want to hear any detracting viewpoints.~



You're patently wrong. I'm not afraid to be disappointed either.



I specifically, preemptively addressed that I find your equation of my realism to pessimism to be wrong. So I'll re-iterate, I don't agree that my realism, in this scenario, is pessimistic. I'm a "watch and wait" type of observer. If more compelling evidence comes to the table, I'll gladly accept it.

I'm 99% sure she's represented in the game in some form if it makes you feel any better. But playable status is the holy grail for a character. It's not unreasonable for me to keep my expectations low for that when there is zero precedence for a Western-made, Western-owned, indie character to be on the roster. There's zero.

Could it happen? Absolutely! Will it happen? Let's see! Can you interpret her chances differently? Absolutely!

Personally, I think 30% is a generous ranking for any character. Keep in mind she's competing with literally thousands of other video game characters. 30% is damn good!

On top of that, I'm not an authority so you don't even need to take my estimation to heart. Hopefully my jovial manner of speaking isn't coming off sarcastically. I really, really don't mean to offend you. I can't stress this enough.

It's less constricting to speak in a more jovial manner.~



I'm perfectly content with the way I approach things. Thank you for understanding.~



Naturally.~

I'm a bonafide individualist.

There were moments in your speech where you expressed confusion with which I interpreted your intent and actions; I've opted against explaining myself or reading further intent into them. Basically, I won't psycho-analyze you if you don't psycho-analyze me. I would much prefer you address my points on their own merits and leave my character out of it. Respectfully.

I consider myself to be an emotional rock. I understand the power of words and the many different interpretations that people can read into them so I won't begrudge you your interpretation of my words. I just vehemently disagree with you.

(If you need to discuss this further, we can take this to PMs.)

Judging by what's on their website. Shantae and Co might be the only one to originate from US

 

[perfectchaos83]

I ask how often American-made properties show up in the Charagumin line because it could possibly give us some insight into how popular Shantae actually is in Japan. Since, for the life of me, I can't find any sales data (for the West either). =P

I just looked through their catalog (Might be a little NSFW maybe? there's a couple fanservicy Super Pochaco figures there) and Shantae (and the not yet available Rottytops) would be the only characters from a western IP in their catalog.

 

[Jazzy Jinx]

I'd say that bodes incredibly well for her popularity in Japan then. Especially since the figures won't be stopping with Rottytops (I believe Risky Boots is currently in the negotiation).

Also, I hear that her face is used for the "Indie button" but I don't own a Switch and I'm not sure what this is referring to. xD

Let me look this up, but it could be another positive in terms of her popularity!

 

[perfectchaos83]

Also, I hear that her face is used for the "Indie button" but I don't own a Switch and I'm not sure what this is referring to. xD

Shantae's the button on the 3DS eShop for the indie section. She has been for a few years now.

 

[Jazzy Jinx]

Shantae's the button on the 3DS eShop for the indie section. She has been for a few years now.

Ahhhhh...

I haven't turned my 3DS on in years. xD

Still, that's great.~

 

[WingedSupernova]

Shantae's the button on the 3DS eShop for the indie section. She has been for a few years now.

Holy s*** I never knew that because I never use my 3DS except for Professor Layton and Phoenix Wright titles.

 

[Jazzy Jinx]

Ah man, Shovel Knight is the Indie button for me. =P

Hopefully it's just because I already own all the Shantae games and it's like... personalized or something, but maybe they're just capitalizing on his appearance in Smash.

 

[Biometal]

Pirate's Curse is the only thing I've downloaded from Wii U eShop because it was the first game to show up at the time, and it immediately appealed.

 

[Staarih]

I'd say that bodes incredibly well for her popularity in Japan then. Especially since the figures won't be stopping with Rottytops (I believe Risky Boots is currently in the negotiation).

Also, I hear that her face is used for the "Indie button" but I don't own a Switch and I'm not sure what this is referring to. xD

Let me look this up, but it could be another positive in terms of her popularity!

Yeah, figurines like this are crazy popular in Japan, there are shops dedicated to them (honestly, I'm no collector, but I was overwhelmed and tempted by all the figures I saw while visiting Tokyo haha!). Hopefully the Shantae and Rottytops figures have found their audience there - with a third one coming (I'm thinking Risky Boots also, I reckon she won the "vote" WF held for the next figure) they must've sold decently.

It's kinda surreal to see the Rottytops figure up for grabs among all the other Japanese figures who the west knows barely any of (lower left corner of first pic):

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[perfectchaos83]

Ah man, Shovel Knight is the Indie button for me. =P

Hopefully it's just because I already own all the Shantae games and it's like... personalized or something, but maybe they're just capitalizing on his appearance in Smash.

Huh. No idea when it changed. It was Shantae a few months ago since I double checked to make sure I was right last time I mentioned it.

 

[EarlTamm]

Hey, just to double check things, when SK was announced as an assist trophy, there was not really any Shantae fans that were cruel with his disconfirmation, right? I didn't really see any of that.

 

[Captain Hazama]

Nope. We all felt bad, and also gave Indie characters hope to be in Smash.

 

[EarlTamm]

Nope. We all felt bad, and also gave Indie characters hope to be in Smash.

Yeah, that's what I thought. I am just bringing it up because I just took a peek at the SK thread and a person claimed the Shantae fanbase were being major ***holes about the topic when it happened. I mean, we were glad about his inclusion because it brought indies a fighting chance and thus us, and SK was are biggest competition, but I don't think anyone was that cruel. I think there has just been a misunderstanding in the fanbase's feelings on the matter.

 

[meleebrawler]

Hey, just to double check things, when SK was announced as an assist trophy, there was not really any Shantae fans that were cruel with his disconfirmation, right? I didn't really see any of that.

Indie fans in general were probably just surprised to get any representation in Smash. Judging by the Shovel Knight comics reacting to this, almost nobody was upset by this at all.

Out of all indies, though, you could argue Shantae is the one with the most "history" with Nintendo. The original was published by Capcom, but exclusively for the Game Boy Color. The inspiring part here is how she managed to bounce back from one of the worst release dates imaginable that pretty much guaranteed she'd be a cult classic at best, by eventually getting it's sequel launch exclusively for the DSi. And then Pirate's Curse followed suit. Sure they went multiplatform eventually, but it says something when Wayforward trusted Nintendo's platforms above all others to get their series going again after 8 years.

I'd say this is where Shovel Knight pales in comparison. Sure his game got released on Nintendo platforms earlier than most and pays homage to a lot of NES titles... but everyone knew Yacht Club games wanted their game to be multiplatform from the start.

 

[Captain Hazama]

Yeah, that's what I thought. I am just bringing it up because I just took a peek at the SK thread and a person claimed the Shantae fanbase were being major ***holes about the topic when it happened.

It could be from another site. Smashboards site has been the nicest with people not completely ****ting on others characters they want in.

Yeah there may be a few minority here and there that are completely nasty to others. But genuine we are nice.

 

[EarlTamm]

I'd say this is where Shovel Knight pales in comparison. Sure his game got released on Nintendo platforms earlier than most and pays homage to a lot of NES titles... but everyone knew Yacht Club games wanted their game to be multiplatform from the start.

I think the best way I sum up the diffrence between SK and Shantae is that while SK may be a great game, Shantae is a great series.

It could be from another site. Smashboards site has been the nicest with people not completely ****ting on others characters they want in.

Yeah there may be a few minority here and there that are completely nasty to others. But genuine we are nice.

Yeah, there is always those few outliers that make the rest look bad. I just hope we can all get along on here at least. I love both the Shantae series and Shovel Knight.