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Either way, when it comes to Assist Trophies, remember the following:
Only Sakurai knows for sure.
And even if he does turn out to be (hopefully), there'll still be no such thing.
I'm sorry if it came across that way. I must've not fully understood what Paragon was saying.
I still wanna see either Sega, Namco or Square get a second unique rep before Capcom get their third (and no
doesn’t count for Sega anymore)
Ahh, wouldn't Nights be a really cool Sega rep?I still wanna see either Sega, Namco or Square get a second unique rep before Capcom get their third (and no
I feel like that argument is nullified by the fact he's got a fully realized moveset in ALL of the Fighting games he's playable in.
How about Beat (Jet Set Radio) or even Ryo Hazuki (Shenmue)?Ahh, wouldn't Nights would be a really cool Sega rep?
It's not Smash related at least. I'm pretty sure Ultimate has already gone gold in terms of development due to it having an E10+ rating from the ESRB already and we're down to 1 and a half months until launch. The date when Cristina said she wrapped up recording on a game was already pushing it as I expected all the voice work to have been done by that point anyway.
hrm, true. my hope for shantae has still gone up a bit regardless, but this is also a good point non the less.
Maybe Sakurai REALLY VALUES expressive characters that have a unique personality over generic ones (sorry, but Villager and Isabelle ARE indeed expressive).
I feel the only Sega rep that can actually happen is Kiryu from Yakuza, and that's only cause it's the only franchise that Sega cares about that isn't Sonic.I still wanna see either Sega, Namco or Square get a second unique rep before Capcom get their third (and no
its.... probable. that could be supported by the charismatic echo fighter choices we've been treated to, daisy, richter, and chrom all being decently expressive characters in their source material. you could also argue waluigi was relegated to being an assist for both reasons, as not only does he have a low amount of moveset potential due to the lack of non-sports game appearances, but his general personality can generally be seen as an uninteresting cross between wario's and luigi's.
Which are completely different games, developed by different people.
Something that'll make me infamous: Waluigi actually has no real expressive personality that isn't simply derived from being Wario's lackey. Then again, Dark Samus isn't actually all that expressive, either. It's just a space virus taking the form of the world's most powerful bounty hunter and running with it.
That's rather interesting. However, I HIGHLY doubt Shantae's personality and moveset potential would've screamed "ASSIST TROPHY" to Sakurai. In fact, a LOT of Nintendo/Japanese devs like Shantae (The artists from Pokemon, WarioWare, Disgaea, and Eiji Aonuma who produced Breath of the Wild), so it's VERY POSSIBLE that Sakurai took a liking to her as well!
I 110% APPROVE of Metal being Sonic's echo!
I'm not opposed to the idea...
This would be something Sakurai would do! He usually throws in a "WHAT THE HECK" addition!
Naaaaaah, brah. It's fake as hell. Looks very fan made. Not a lot of detail at all.
Well, I guess the situation could be different when it comes to echo fighters? Maybe, it's only with newcomers where their expressiveness matters?
I do not dislike this idea too much, anyway.
not a very infamous/hot take considering that is what he was created to be. not at all sure how the character amassed this many fans when his purpose is just as you described. but i wouldn't want to turn this into a waluigi hate thread so i will stop here.
ah, it is indeed true that the NCC argument hasn't really been refuted yet. Wayforward is incredibly keen on having Shantae appear and crossover with other indies. it's still very suspicious she's specifically missing from fighting games.
ah, this is a somewhat strong and agreeable counter-argument that i hadn't considered. developing a fighter for blade strangers or indie pogo is wildly different from developing a fighter for smash, especially when, as you pointed out, sakurai looks specifically and only for reference material from their games to base their movesets on top of (i.e. Little Mac's moveset only being realizable after a new Punchout title giving him new tools and abilities). other indie fighters, especially blade strangers are not as accurate to source material as smash likes to be and usually tries to capture a more over-the-top vibe when you consider the umihara kawase characters as well as the cave story characters and shovel knight's re-design.
It's possible he could be in Smash, but that's just a silly comic...
The ONLY crossover she's been in lately (that's new, not a port) is Blaster Master Zero, and that was a more than a year ago.
If this were ANY other company I'd agree with you but the Sonic twitter is notorious for dropping hints about their future projects (check out the "More Clues" video if you haven't seen it before https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfW6L6ZQ-Uk) and they've recently started putting hints in their ****posts again. While it's fairly likely this isn't for Smash and is possibly for an upcoming Sonic game, this is definitely a hint towards something.
Yeah, and Team Sonic Racing still has 3 UNANNOUNCED characters left to be revealed, and it's rumored that Metal Sonic is one of them.
Yeah, Shadow is more of a rival to Sonic than a villian. Metal fits that role perfectly.
Not to mention Metal beats palette swap any day in terms of design.
Shadow's a LOT more than a palette swap, and not just in design. He can do some Dragon Ball level stuff, such as the Chaos Spear and Chaos Blast. He also is able to warp in and out of space, and even has a sick chopper!
And this is supposed to make a good character?
Thats the thing that hurts him most for an echo, Shadow does have a ton of his own moves, and even a unique run animation. Have echos gotten unique run animations yet? I feel like maybe Dark Samus so its possible? But even then, only replacing Up B with Teleport to be more shadow like is not as great of a reputation.
Pallete swap? Have you seen his prototype design? THAT was a pallete swap, his final design is much more unique.
Oh, that's why they confuse him for Sonic; he was essentially Bowser Jr. with a Sonic bandana.
Which in knowing that, that should mean Shantae has higher than normal chance of making the roster, right?
I don't know. It looks far too real to be a fake.
