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Shantae, the Half Genie Protector of Scuttle Town! (A Switch To A New WayForward)

Do you think shantae can make it?

  • Yes, as a fighter

  • Yes, as a assist trophy

  • No, not as a assist trophy

  • No, not at all


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Dyllybirdy

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Hey, I was actually thinking about this the other day... what will the vault look like this time around? And what Shantae related stuff would it hold, if she did make it in? I mean, the, GBC game appearing in the masterpieces section, would be really cool! :)
And, little side note wouldn't it be amazing if Wayforward actually remade Shantae 1? They could improve on quite a couple of things. :)


I also would want to see what all of the trophies of Shantae and her friends would like. You know such as Rottytops, Space Princess Rottytops, Hooligan Sister Rottytops, Rottytops wearing Shantae's attire, vice versa... ah, you get the point.
 
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ActualGarbage

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Hey, I was actually thinking about this the other day... what will the vault look like this time around? And what Shantae related stuff would it hold, if she did make it in? I mean, the, GBC game appearing in the masterpieces section, would be really cool! :)
And, little side note wouldn't it be amazing if Wayforward actually remade Shantae 1? They could improve on quite a couple of things. :)


I also would want to see what all of the trophies of Shantae and her friends would like. You know such as Rottytops, Space Princess Rottytops, Hooligan Sister Rottytops, Rottytops wearing Shantae's attire, vice versa... ah, you get the point.
You want to change everyone in Ultimate to versions of Rottytops? You got it chief.
 

Grimacebsx

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Meh this 108 103 stages rumor is still just "a friend of a friend has been right before or a friend of sakurai" its all hearsay our evidence far out weighs this. Hopes are as high as ever!
 

Wwlink55

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Meh this 108 103 stages rumor is still just "a friend of a friend has been right before or a friend of sakurai" its all hearsay our evidence far out weighs this. Hopes are as high as ever!
It's not a rumor. CoroCoro has actually retracted the 108 stage statement. The discussion part is the reason why they did so.
 

Hollywoodrok12

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This happened earlier on the Isaac thread. One guy is losing hope entirely and other Isaac supporters may be a tad shaken. I personally don't feel like hope should be abandoned in spite of this.

The quote as is:
I hate to bring the thread down, but I think we should call it GGs for base. The biggest thing in our favor (and every other possible newcomer's favor) was the assumption we'd get an early October Direct. With that not panning out and people shifting to a Double Direct November, I think everyone's toast bar a miracle.

If it's indeed a General + Smash Direct, everyone is toast. General will most likely be a big name (presumably a Pokemon so presumably Incineroar), and the Smash will be focused on Spirits with a few left over reveals (presumably Ken).

Characterwise, the Smash Direct can go two ways, or what I'll call 103 and 108. 103 is MAYBE one character we haven't seen yet, 108 would be an insane a-la August blowout where everyone goes crazy. 108 is the least likely.

108 requires both Corocoro to *intentionally* mislead their readers regarding the stage total at this point and for Nintendo to know how to actually be competent with generating hype near release, which they have never proven themselves remotely good at. I would NOT expect lightning to strike twice and for a 3+ character reveal extravaganza to occur because of this.

Isaac will never be General Direct material for obvious reasons. The odds of him pulling a June Ridley are low for the same reasons: he isn't big enough to carry a Direct on his own in any reasonable way. The only characters that can come close aren't even majorly speculated on right now bar Steve, who is unlikely for different reasons but still fits the bill. For better or worse, all the largely speculated characters right now are virtual nobodies to most people. K. Rool definitely helps in this regard since he's a dinosaur in his own right, but for now I'm inclined to think hes the exception, not the rule.

I really want everyone's expectations for base to drop immediately, given how things are. I don't want Smash 4 to happen all over again, where the Isaac crowd went all-in even to the last minute and got crushed as a result. We need to be the first to shift towards DLC, become the forefront there, and *hope* someone hears us. If we keep going forward with most of our confidence in a basegame appearance, I'm worried we may fragment again. I'm not sure if we can recover from that nightmare a second time.

End rant and all that. If I'm wrong, I'll eat my delicious, delicious words while playing Isaac.

I don't want to end up bringing the thread down, but I have to say what's on my mind. I put my thoughts in a spoiler so some of the people who, understandably, don't like my negativity, don't have to see it.

I have to agree with most of what this guy says. There's so many variables that point against anyone that isn't Ken, Incineroar, and to a lesser extent, Steve and Sora/Geno. And that guy was being a bit optimistic, because that's assuming that there'd be two directs of that calibre in one month, since the closest we've ever gotten is a Smash Direct coupled with a Dragalia Lost one (one I'm not sure everyone here's even played). And the fact that September's only reveal was a Semi-Clone low key implies that Sakurai's running out of hype reveals. On top of that, Sakurai explicitly said to not expect too many newcomer reveals, almost as if he knows that there's gonna be disappointment in the future.

And what makes matter worse for us, with all of the NDA stuff, Shantae can very well be in a deconfirming role, like an AT. And for anyone thk=inking that WF would never do it to their fans, think of it from their POV: This AT is the biggest thing that ever happened to them. They may not be the coportate bigwigs like some others, but they'd have to do it from a business standpoint, since many more people would know Shantae thanks to that cameo. I also don't want anyone to increase their hopes too high, only for them to get disappointed, or worse, do or say some things that we all may regret later.

Much like the Isaac pessimist with his character, if Shantae gets in, I will eat my words with the biggest smile I could possibly put on my face.

I don't agree with all of it tho, since the 108 situation would make new franchises more likely, since they'd need a stage, unless they were an obscure retro franchise. Even then, R.O.B. is the only example of it.

Goes to check the leak just to make sure
thread has been deleted

Oh okay. Understandable.
"Oh hey there's this cool new leak format! Let me follow it!" And then they put the near-locks as fighters and put the less likely fan-faves as AT's. Every. Single. Time.
 

Hollywoodrok12

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It's weird seeing a trend with leaks. It's like seeing cliches in film. But it's with internet leaks. Like, why tho?
Because that's the cool thing to do.

I can tell you the standard leak:

Fighters: Ken, Incineroar, Geno, Steve.
Assist Trophies: Shantae, Isaac and someone else that's highly requested.
Stages: Pokemon Stage, Minecraft Stage, Forest Maze and 2 more stages.

Every time. Granted, I think a lot of that will come true, but it's just like what happened with Simon: piggybacking off reliable leakers.
 
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Wwlink55

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I don't want to end up bringing the thread down, but I have to say what's on my mind. I put my thoughts in a spoiler so some of the people who, understandably, don't like my negativity, don't have to see it.

I have to agree with most of what this guy says. There's so many variables that point against anyone that isn't Ken, Incineroar, and to a lesser extent, Steve and Sora/Geno. And that guy was being a bit optimistic, because that's assuming that there'd be two directs of that calibre in one month, since the closest we've ever gotten is a Smash Direct coupled with a Dragalia Lost one (one I'm not sure everyone here's even played). And the fact that September's only reveal was a Semi-Clone low key implies that Sakurai's running out of hype reveals. On top of that, Sakurai explicitly said to not expect too many newcomer reveals, almost as if he knows that there's gonna be disappointment in the future.

And what makes matter worse for us, with all of the NDA stuff, Shantae can very well be in a deconfirming role, like an AT. And for anyone thk=inking that WF would never do it to their fans, think of it from their POV: This AT is the biggest thing that ever happened to them. They may not be the coportate bigwigs like some others, but they'd have to do it from a business standpoint, since many more people would know Shantae thanks to that cameo. I also don't want anyone to increase their hopes too high, only for them to get disappointed, or worse, do or say some things that we all may regret later.

Much like the Isaac pessimist with his character, if Shantae gets in, I will eat my words with the biggest smile I could possibly put on my face.

I don't agree with all of it tho, since the 108 situation would make new franchises more likely, since they'd need a stage, unless they were an obscure retro franchise. Even then, R.O.B. is the only example of it.



"Oh hey there's this cool new leak format! Let me follow it!" And then they put the near-locks as fighters and put the less likely fan-faves as AT's. Every. Single. Time.

The all is lost moment!
 

LaBeteNoire

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Hey, I was actually thinking about this the other day... what will the vault look like this time around? And what Shantae related stuff would it hold, if she did make it in? I mean, the, GBC game appearing in the masterpieces section, would be really cool! :)
And, little side note wouldn't it be amazing if Wayforward actually remade Shantae 1? They could improve on quite a couple of things. :)


I also would want to see what all of the trophies of Shantae and her friends would like. You know such as Rottytops, Space Princess Rottytops, Hooligan Sister Rottytops, Rottytops wearing Shantae's attire, vice versa... ah, you get the point.
Don't forget Bunny Hood Rottytops and Tanooki tail Rottytops ;)
 

ActualGarbage

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Because that's the cool thing to do.

I can tell you the standard leak:

Fighters: Ken, Incineroar, Geno, Steve.
Assist Trophies: Shantae, Isaac and someone else that's highly requested.
Stages: Pokemon Stage, Minecraft Stage, Forest Maze and 2 more stages.

Every time. Granted, I think a lot of that will come true, but it's just like what happened with Simon: piggybacking off reliable leakers.
I can't believe I can say "These types of Smash leaks are over saturated". It's rough.
 

Wademan94

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Well, it seems like images finally started working again, As promised, here's the little project I've been working on the previous night:

Shantae_HGH.png

and I'm planning on doing some Smash-style palette swaps/alt. costumes for this piece. Here's a few variants of this with some additions to her outfit:
One with the tiara jewel:
Shantae_HGH_jewel.png


One with the arm bands:
Shantae_HGH_armbands.png


One with the vest:
Shantae_HGH_vest.png


Angry/determined look in her eyes:
Shantae_HGH_angry.png


and just for Dyllybirdy Dyllybirdy :
Shantae_HGH_Rottytopspalette.png
 
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say what's on my mind. I put my thoughts in a spoiler so some of the people who, understandably, don't like my negativity, don't have to see it.

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Guys I’m about to rage rant right now it’s best if you
all leave. plz?
 

EarlTamm

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Well, it seems like images finally started working again, As promised, here's the little project I've been working on the previous night:

and I'm planning on doing some Smash-style palette swaps/alt. costumes for this piece. Here's a few variants of this with some additions to her outfit:
One with the tiara jewel:
View attachment 171028

One with the arm bands:
View attachment 171029

One with the vest:
View attachment 171030

Angry/determined look in her eyes:
View attachment 171031

and just for Dyllybirdy Dyllybirdy :
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Very well done! Love that you did alts.
 

Mario9919

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Well, it seems like images finally started working again, As promised, here's the little project I've been working on the previous night:

and I'm planning on doing some Smash-style palette swaps/alt. costumes for this piece. Here's a few variants of this with some additions to her outfit:
One with the tiara jewel:
View attachment 171028

One with the arm bands:
View attachment 171029

One with the vest:
View attachment 171030

Angry/determined look in her eyes:
View attachment 171031

and just for Dyllybirdy Dyllybirdy :
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I love 'em! Have you of ever thought of making a Sky Alt?
 

Dyllybirdy

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Well, it seems like images finally started working again, As promised, here's the little project I've been working on the previous night:

and I'm planning on doing some Smash-style palette swaps/alt. costumes for this piece. Here's a few variants of this with some additions to her outfit:
One with the tiara jewel:
View attachment 171028

One with the arm bands:
View attachment 171029

One with the vest:
View attachment 171030
Angry/determined look in her eyes:
View attachment 171031

and just for Dyllybirdy Dyllybirdy :
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You, my friend, are one fine specimen of humanity.

This news drought has certainly brought everything downhill hasn’t it?
Yes it has.

Although, I'm not feeling TOO bad. And if I do ever seem a little cranky in this thread, it's most likely for reasons, completely unrelated to Smash. :p
 
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DOTBHDD

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Well, it seems like images finally started working again, As promised, here's the little project I've been working on the previous night:

and I'm planning on doing some Smash-style palette swaps/alt. costumes for this piece. Here's a few variants of this with some additions to her outfit:
One with the tiara jewel:
View attachment 171028

One with the arm bands:
View attachment 171029

One with the vest:
View attachment 171030

Angry/determined look in her eyes:
View attachment 171031

and just for Dyllybirdy Dyllybirdy :
View attachment 171032
This is do damn good!
 

Wwlink55

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Well, it seems like images finally started working again, As promised, here's the little project I've been working on the previous night:

and I'm planning on doing some Smash-style palette swaps/alt. costumes for this piece. Here's a few variants of this with some additions to her outfit:
One with the tiara jewel:
View attachment 171028

One with the arm bands:
View attachment 171029

One with the vest:
View attachment 171030

Angry/determined look in her eyes:
View attachment 171031

and just for Dyllybirdy Dyllybirdy :
View attachment 171032

Very nice job! I especially like the Rottytops!
 

Wademan94

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You, my friend, are one fine specimen of humanity.


Yes it has.

Although, I'm not feeling TOO bad. And if I do ever seem a little cranky in this thread, it's most likely for reasons, completely unrelated to Smash. :p
Thank you and hopefully this worked as a little pick me up.

This is do damn good!
Thank you as well!
 

LaBeteNoire

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Well, it seems like images finally started working again, As promised, here's the little project I've been working on the previous night:

and I'm planning on doing some Smash-style palette swaps/alt. costumes for this piece. Here's a few variants of this with some additions to her outfit:
One with the tiara jewel:
View attachment 171028

One with the arm bands:
View attachment 171029

One with the vest:
View attachment 171030

Angry/determined look in her eyes:
View attachment 171031

and just for Dyllybirdy Dyllybirdy :
View attachment 171032
Those are amazing. If you didn't tell us you made them i could have easily been lead to believe they were offical or concept art from WF themselves. Well done, good sir.
 

hassoutobi

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Well, it seems like images finally started working again, As promised, here's the little project I've been working on the previous night:

and I'm planning on doing some Smash-style palette swaps/alt. costumes for this piece. Here's a few variants of this with some additions to her outfit:
One with the tiara jewel:
View attachment 171028

One with the arm bands:
View attachment 171029

One with the vest:
View attachment 171030

Angry/determined look in her eyes:
View attachment 171031

and just for Dyllybirdy Dyllybirdy :
View attachment 171032
these are lovely. do you mind if i use the second-to-last one as a profile picture in some places?
 

Wwlink55

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People are getting negative. Looks like I have to step up on the cute Uiharu!


EDIT: Wooh! 100th post!
 
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Wademan94

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Those are amazing. If you didn't tell us you made them i could have easily been lead to believe they were offical or concept art from WF themselves. Well done, good sir.
Thank you very much! I’m glad they turned out as well as they did.

these are lovely. do you mind if i use the second-to-last one as a profile picture in some places?
Thank you as well, sure I don’t mind

People are getting negative. Looks like I have to step up on the cute Uiharu!


EDIT: Wooh! 100th post!
I mean I kinda started taking care of that, but yeah that cute Uiharu definitely helps.
 
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Hollywoodrok12 Hollywoodrok12 .......
YOU ARE WRONG!!!! WRONG TO INFINITY!!!!!
ALL YOU DO IS WHEN YOU SEE STUFF YOUR ALL LIKE SHES AN ASSIST BUT GUESS WHAT SHE ISINT BECAUSE SHE ISINT IN ANY FIGHTING GAMES BECAUSE IT ALL HAS TO DO WITH AN NCC!!!! MATT CRISTINA AND JAKE THEY ARENT TALKING OR REPLYING ABOUT SMASH BECAUSE THEYRE UNDER AN NDA!!!! THAT ALOAN SHOWCASE WAS HINTING HER JUST LIKE THE RATHALOS PICTURE WAS HINTING ISAAC!!!! DIDINT YOU FORGET YOUR THEORY ABOUT CRISTINAS NDA WELL YOU JUST DISCARD IT ALL THE WAY WITHOUT THINKING TWICE!!!!! AND STEVE AINT HAPPENING BECAUSE HES DUMB!!!! SHANTAE IS AND COMING AS A FIGHTER NOT AN ASSIST BECAUSE IF SHE WAS THEN SHE BE IN ALL THES INDIE BRAWLERS!!!! MAN I JUST CANT STAND YOU WHEN YOUR LIKE THIS!!!!!!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE...
Ouch. Plz don’t put me into all of your ignore lists y’all I’m sorry for what I said I just can’t help it.
 

ActualGarbage

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Hollywoodrok12 Hollywoodrok12 .......
YOU ARE WRONG!!!! WRONG TO INFINITY!!!!!
ALL YOU DO IS WHEN YOU SEE STUFF YOUR ALL LIKE SHES AN ASSIST BUT GUESS WHAT SHE ISINT BECAUSE SHE ISINT IN ANY FIGHTING GAMES BECAUSE IT ALL HAS TO DO WITH AN NCC!!!! MATT CRISTINA AND JAKE THEY ARENT TALKING OR REPLYING ABOUT SMASH BECAUSE THEYRE UNDER AN NDA!!!! THAT ALOAN SHOWCASE WAS HINTING HER JUST LIKE THE RATHALOS PICTURE WAS HINTING ISAAC!!!! DIDINT YOU FORGET YOUR THEORY ABOUT CRISTINAS NDA WELL YOU JUST DISCARD IT ALL THE WAY WITHOUT THINKING TWICE!!!!! AND STEVE AINT HAPPENING BECAUSE HES DUMB!!!! SHANTAE IS AND COMING AS A FIGHTER NOT AN ASSIST BECAUSE IF SHE WAS THEN SHE BE IN ALL THES INDIE BRAWLERS!!!! MAN I JUST CANT STAND YOU WHEN YOUR LIKE THIS!!!!!!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE...
Ouch. Plz don’t put me into all of your ignore lists y’all I’m sorry for what I said I just can’t help it.
The fact that I can't tell if this is a joke or not is concerning.
 

Wwlink55

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Hollywoodrok12 Hollywoodrok12 .......
YOU ARE WRONG!!!! WRONG TO INFINITY!!!!!
ALL YOU DO IS WHEN YOU SEE STUFF YOUR ALL LIKE SHES AN ASSIST BUT GUESS WHAT SHE ISINT BECAUSE SHE ISINT IN ANY FIGHTING GAMES BECAUSE IT ALL HAS TO DO WITH AN NCC!!!! MATT CRISTINA AND JAKE THEY ARENT TALKING OR REPLYING ABOUT SMASH BECAUSE THEYRE UNDER AN NDA!!!! THAT ALOAN SHOWCASE WAS HINTING HER JUST LIKE THE RATHALOS PICTURE WAS HINTING ISAAC!!!! DIDINT YOU FORGET YOUR THEORY ABOUT CRISTINAS NDA WELL YOU JUST DISCARD IT ALL THE WAY WITHOUT THINKING TWICE!!!!! AND STEVE AINT HAPPENING BECAUSE HES DUMB!!!! SHANTAE IS AND COMING AS A FIGHTER NOT AN ASSIST BECAUSE IF SHE WAS THEN SHE BE IN ALL THES INDIE BRAWLERS!!!! MAN I JUST CANT STAND YOU WHEN YOUR LIKE THIS!!!!!!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE...
Ouch. Plz don’t put me into all of your ignore lists y’all I’m sorry for what I said I just can’t help it.
Woah dude, calm down
 
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