Shantae, the Half Genie Protector of Scuttle Town! (A Switch To A New WayForward)

[Hollywoodrok12]

The reason she’s gonna be revealed as a fighter on the 24th because it’s between two important shantae dates

23rd pirates curse released

24th direct/new franchise/pm time direct

25th pirates curse jp release/am time direct

And the music preview could be from pirates curse because of pirates curse jp release and with SF coming to Japan also on the switch ken will likely get revealed as an echo alongside shantae

So yes it all makes sense she will be revealed as a fighter on the 24th there is no such thing as an assist because SK already took that spot for indie AT meaning no more indie AT slots

Let me rephrase what I said

pc jp release=shantae reveal
Sf jp release=ken echo reveal
Alucard+sable prince=no more transforming AT
SK assist=no more indie AT (excluding shantaes AT/rotty)

*Phew* that was Sure a lot!

Also that leak is still ****

You might want this:

Spoiler: Big Image

As I said before, don't lose your head. Nothing's confirmed until Sakurai, Nintendo or-never mind- says it is.

 

[Deleted member]

You might want this:

Spoiler: Big Image

As I said before, don't lose your head. Nothing's confirmed until Sakurai, Nintendo or-never mind- says it is.

Ok it was just my theory about the direct

But the AT part makes sense to me

 

[Guybrush20X6]

I've got no new info to add but I thought I'd share this again

If Shantae can be in Smash, Shantae will be Smash

 

[Deleted member]

I've got no new info to add but I thought I'd share this again

If Shantae can be in Smash, Shantae will be Smash

Your right! I still don’t know why people are still calling her an assist in most of fake leaks

It ain’t gonna happen like that.

 

[zferolie]

Why is everyone so certain that she'll be in a direct?
A vast majority of the characters in 4 were just revealed on the website. She might just appear out of nowhere on the official site, too.
i think she should be explained if she's been selected, but I don't think we should be solely waiting for a direct.

As everyone one else said, so far all smash news has been in directs for this game, so It logical to feel they would do the same. Plus, shantae makes sense to reveal at a start of a direct so Sakurai can explain some stuff about her, the importance of an indie character in smash, and other things, like he did for Simon and richter

 

[Deleted member]

I have another theory coming up!

 

[GoldLiger]

I have another theory coming up!

Can't wait to hear it.

Also it's that time once again.

 

[zferolie]

Guess who is number 1 in this top 10 Metroid Vania games for PC

https://www.gamersdecide.com/articles/best-metroidvania-games-pc

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

If Shantae did get AT'd, you think WayForward would work to get her in Indie Pogo and Blade Strangers?

Wouldn't they be working already if they knew she was an AT though? Granted, we don't know what's going on behind the scenes.

 

[Dyllybirdy]

Also it's that time once again.

Sure thing.

 

[Deleted member]

Wouldn't they be working already if they knew she was an AT though? Granted, we don't know what's going on behind the scenes.

They were actually denied

 

[Frosty Pops]

Hello from the Isaac supporters! Shantae is on my 10 most wanted list so I am rooting for you guys as well. Since we are in a bit of a dry spell for info I thought you guys could use a laugh. So here is some honest character intros from the first Smash.
Mario- Got tired of beating up apes and killing turtles.
DK- Has a hoarding disorder.
Kirby- Maneating marshmallow of doom.
Samus- Genocidal specialist.
Pikachu- Beats ground types!?!
Fox- Got paid to join in.
Captain Falcon- Got tired of driving his racer.
Ness- Does not condone child violence.
Jigglypuff- Ultimate featherweight.
Yoshi- Explains where eggs come from.
Luigi- Feeling left out.
Link- Master of words.

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

They were actually denied

Wayforward were denied?

 

[Deleted member]

Wayforward were denied?

No indie pogo and blade strangers
That can result a fighter in smash
With no answer why to the developers

 

[hassoutobi]

The reason she’s gonna be revealed as a fighter on the 24th because it’s between two important shantae dates

23rd pirates curse released

24th direct/new franchise/pm time direct

25th pirates curse jp release/am time direct

sorry, im a little behind on my news, did nintendo actually confirm a direct for the 24th? or is this just a theory?

 

[SoupCanMafia]

Wayforward were denied?

No, didn't you read about WF denying IndiePogo or Blade Strangers permission to use their characters?

sorry, im a little behind on my news, did nintendo actually confirm a direct for the 24th? or is this just a theory?

It's just a theory...
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[Dyllybirdy]

sorry, im a little behind on my news, did nintendo actually confirm a direct for the 24th? or is this just a theory?

Nope, it's just a simple old theory. Connor's just presenting it as if it's fact, for some reason?

 

[Deleted member]

Nope, it's just a simple old theory. Connor's just presenting it as if it's fact, for some reason?

I already said it was a theory

 

[Deleted member]

I never saw her as an indie, tbh.

Still a good pick.

 

[Dyllybirdy]

I never saw her as an indie, tbh.

Why so?

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

No, didn't you read about WF denying IndiePogo or Blade Strangers permission to use their characters?

Is there a source for these?

 

[Deleted member]

Why so?

She started in a Capcom published game for GBC.

She got a resurrection as an independent reboot, of course, but she began as a game published by a big company.

 

[Dyllybirdy]

She started in a Capcom published game for GBC.

She got a resurrection as an independent reboot, of course, but she began as a game published by a big company.

I guess you could say that, but they were only the publisher.

But, it made me think... Shantae for Marvel vs. Capcom?

 

[Deleted member]

I guess you could say that, but they were only the publisher.

But, it made me think... Shantae for Marvel vs. Capcom?

Maybe.

While the roster isn't good, the gameplay of Infinite is surprisingly neat.

 

[GoldLiger]

Is there a source for these?

On their twitter account people have been asking for Shantae they said they would consider her if there is enough fan demand(even though the fact that the popular Queen of Indies was asked for since the announcement of their games should tell them that there was fan demand). As you can see their responses to these questions make no sense.

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

On their twitter account people have been asking for Shantae they said they would consider her if there is enough fan demand(even though the fact that the popular Queen of Indies was asked for since the announcement of their games should tell them that there was fan demand). As you can see their responses to these questions make no sense.

Is there an active quote/post where an official source states that Wayforward actively declined them to include Shantae though? Unless there is, for all we know, whatever quota they set hasn't been met.

 

[Wwlink55]

Mornin' folks.

Im honestly surprised at this point. I've looked into it, and for the most part I feel like the "Shovel Knight got in, She has no chance" excuse no longer has any real weight. The more I ponder it, the more sure I am she can make it to base roster over Shovel Knight.

Also, in regards to WayForward and Shantae being in Smash Bros, as far as I know WayForward has been extremely excited to try and include her, especially during the Smash Ballot.

 

[GoldLiger]

Is there an active quote/post where an official source states that Wayforward actively declined them to include Shantae though? Unless there is, for all we know, whatever quota they set hasn't been met.

It was posted on here but that about 300 or so pages ago. Did anyone put the tweets in the Shantae Spreadsheet?

 

[Dyllybirdy]

Mornin' folks.

Im honestly surprised at this point. I've looked into it, and for the most part I feel like the "Shovel Knight got in, She has no chance" excuse no longer has any real weight. The more I ponder it, the more sure I am she can make it to base roster over Shovel Knight.

Morning, Wwlink. :3

I'd say the reason that argument exists is because, well, I'd say Shantae's a more popular character overall, but Shovel Knight has been in the spotlight a lot more lately, so much more prevalent than Shantae, appearing in every game developers will allow Yacht Club to put their hands on.

He's seen as more popular, when he most likely isn't (internationally anyway ).

Also, in regards to WayForward and Shantae being in Smash Bros, as far as I know WayForward has been extremely excited to try and include her, especially during the Smash Ballot.

Yes, they may have even overdone themselves during that time haha. If Nintendo asked Wayforward if they could include Shantae in Smash, they would probably respond with a very enthusiastic "yes please!".

 

[NukeA6]

Well, you could have just cleared it up that it was only a half-suggestion that you didn't really put stock in to curtail all this sooner then.

Isn't that right, Wayforward?

If it helps, the only real expectation I have of Risky Boots is her being an assist trophy although I think that would be asking too much if Shantae becomes playable. It's already enough when Shovel Knight only got the NPC status (then again, how many games has this guy been in again?).

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

It was posted on here but that about 300 or so pages ago. Did anyone put the tweets in the Shantae Spreadsheet?

Perhaps a link to the Twitter post itself perhaps?

 

[GoldLiger]

Perhaps a link to the Twitter post itself perhaps?

It should be in the Shantae spreadsheet as that counts as EVIDENCE.

So can anyone here say they added the tweets to the Spreadsheet? I do not want to spend hours of my time going over old tweets.

EDIT: Dammit I think they deleted the tweet itself

 

[Paragon-Yoshi]

Truth to be told, I'd rather just have Shantae use her Hair Whip, Items, Genie Magic and maybe some Fighting Gear Moves in her Smash Moveset.
Because that is the true Shantae.

In Pirate's Curse, as great as it might be, Shantae wasn't really Shantae, gameplay-wise (except for the Hair Whipping)
She was a Risky Boots stand-in. A temporary measure to cover for her lost abilities.
Which I don't think is a good representation of her character. if it were used as moveset in Smash.

Now, I am not against a few moves in her kit referencing moves from Pirate's Curse.
But making her whole Smash Moveset only revolve around Pirate's Curse and tossing everything else aside, that truly belongs to her...
I dunno, I think that would be an unwise decision.


Pirate's Curse may or may not be the best. That's entirely subjective.
But even if that's your opinion, I just don't think it's fair to completely disregard her moves from all other Shantae games.

 

[Wwlink55]

I would prefer they base it on all the games more than just Pirates Curse. Considering she is a genie, it might be worthwhile to keep some genie powers there. I also feel like the hair whip would be the go-to base attack, simply because thats her main for of attack in every game.

 

[zferolie]

Have a Sassy Daisy to do with the upcoming Sassy Shantae

 

[Deleted member]

Alright GoldLiger heres my theory


Shantae would be in the same situation snake was back in melee
Kojami begged snake so hard for melee but denied just like people wanted sonic for melee

In brawl they were both there as playable characters

Matt begged shantae for Wii U/3ds but denied like kojami because bayo won the ballot so that makes her as a fighter in the next smash game
And there is likely one more 3rd party to be announced and shantae is one of those. for the others:
Banjo: is most likely a lock for dlc GUH-HUH!!!
Rayman:idk dlc maybe?
Dantae:deconfermed also too many capcom stuff
Steve:lol you really think he be a fighter?!?!
No one gets past the bear and the bird!


Look at it this way for her


Base 3rd partys

Snake and sonic results as most wanted 3rd party’s

Mega man and pac mam as retro 3rd party’s

And Simon/richter and SHANTAE as metroidvania 3rd party’s

 

[Wwlink55]

Alright GoldLiger heres my theory


Shantae would be in the same situation snake was back in melee
Kojami begged snake so hard for melee but denied just like people wanted sonic for melee

In brawl they were both there as playable characters

Matt begged shantae for Wii U/3ds but denied like kojami because bayo won the ballot so that makes her as a fighter in the next smash game
And there is likely one more 3rd party to be announced and shantae is one of those. for the others:
Banjo: is most likely a lock for dlc GUH-HUH!!!
Rayman:idk dlc maybe?
Dantae:deconfermed also too many capcom stuff
Steve:lol you really think he be a fighter?!?!
No one gets past the bear and the bird!


Look at it this way for her


Base 3rd partys

Snake and sonic results as most wanted 3rd party’s

Mega man and pac mam as retro 3rd party’s

And Simon/richter and SHANTAE as metroidvania 3rd party’s

I think its reasonable, although as far as I know there hasn't been any confirmed pattern for third parties to be similar when added, so im not too sure about the connection to Simon.

 

[Dyllybirdy]

I would prefer they base it on all the games more than just Pirates Curse. Considering she is a genie, it might be worthwhile to keep some genie powers there. I also feel like the hair whip would be the go-to base attack, simply because thats her main for of attack in every game.

Well, of course it would!

Her magic hair is probably her most defining, and iconic feature (except, for maybe her animal transformations, but they might be difficult to implement into her moveset...).

 

[EarlTamm]

Personally, I would like a mix of both her magic and pirate gear. We should not just ignore either, they both have a place in the Shantae series.

 

[Paragon-Yoshi]

Alright GoldLiger heres my theory


Shantae would be in the same situation snake was back in melee
Kojami begged snake so hard for melee but denied just like people wanted sonic for melee

1. Kojima. Hideo Kojima. He's the one who made the request, not Konami.
2. The request for Snake in Melee wasn't denied. The game was simply too far along in development at the time the request was made.
Simply put, the request came too late. If it came sooner, Snake would've been in Melee.