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Shantae, the Half Genie Protector of Scuttle Town! (A Switch To A New WayForward)

Do you think shantae can make it?

  • Yes, as a fighter

  • Yes, as a assist trophy

  • No, not as a assist trophy

  • No, not at all


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SoupCanMafia

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Who would fit the "health" motif the most, though, if we really are going for the motif in Japan? Mean, Shantae could fit in because of Belly Dancing and dancing being something healthy, but that's a loose connection at best.
Also, I love this song because it best reflects on the long time that we've waited with noting really notable happening:
 

Teeb147

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Well, things have started moving along nicely again. Hellow new faces, welcome and good to see you :)

Soooooo the Shantae reveal for the 9th was fake... I mean, I knew it was fake but... I kinda... hoped ?
Now I understand why people tend to believe "leaks" easily, because it gives them hope ( when their favorites are included) !
The same way I refuse to believe any leak not involving playable Shantae.
I'm not loosing hope, on contrary, but I just understood something about leaks. I must be the only one who wasn't aware of it.
Oh well, whatever xD
Shantae4Smash!!
Hey that's better than most people looking at leaks :) It's good to realize at any point.
Not only do leakers look to have impact on people (and will pull stops to sound believable in many cases), but people who pay attention to them do so because either they dont know better or there's an interest in there for them. It sucks because sometimes it's at the price of others, and also at the price of keeping an open mind (rather than believing claims).
There can still be some legit info, but the leaks around smash has gone wayy overboard and it's just so oversaturated, I hope more people get tired of them.

Also, the Zeraora one is a prime example of taking advantage of info known (the health holiday) to make something sound believable. @Connorb0t2 , it's an opportunity to see there's no reason to believe leaks even when someone makes them sound believable. It's better to just consider them, and only believe Nintendo themselves. (imo)

And while I'm at it, how about a little Heart-to-Heart?

Honestly, I joined these forums and this support-group specifically, because....
1. I want Shantae in Smash (Duh)
and 2. It seemed like a nice group with no stress or toxicity to fear.

Full Disclosure: I have a social phobia. And I can't handle any sort of aggression or toxicity.
Which is why I tend to submit, when I feel really pressured (you may have seen me doing this a couple times here).

Anyway, back to talking about this group:
It seems that recently, it has become an emotional rollercoaster.
People got hyped over little things and lost hope over little things, that really don't matter much.

And people got really defensive and aggressive over various subjects (Shantae Moveset, Shantae Animated series concepts, Steve's potential deconfirmation, etc.).
Not gonna lie, it has become a really stressful experience lately. Especially when people turn on me and essentially tell me I am a piece of garbage for believing or feeling a certain way.

Heck, in one instance, I had someone constantly twisting my words and overall being toxic.
And they even said something along the lines of "if you want the bashing to stop, GTFO!".
Talk about extortion...
(To be fair, that only happened once. But still...)


Now I do get that people get nervous, since the game gets closer and closer to release, and we have seen no signs of Shantae in the game yet.
We have clues, but no clear confirmation. And it seems some people break under the pressure...
But don't let it get the best of you.

Because all of this infighting I've seen really made me feel uncomfortable and sometimes even stressed me out...
Not saying it's anyones fault. But i wanted to let you guys know... if you even care.


Rant over.
You can now get back to what you've been doing.
It's surprising to me how many sensitive people we have here. (myself included, but maybe a little differently)
The thing is we're still human, and this is the internet. There's bound to be ups and downs. If you look around there's arguments everywhere, people feel aggressions and stuff, and sometimes you can't do much about it besides not take it too personally. It's also easier when you dont expect things to be super smooth, though appreciate when it is, and contribute to it whenever you can.

I dont think anyone was tyring to beat anyone down, I think that's actually a perception (maybe from being sensitive to certain things), because many people are used to the ways of the internet and argue almost naturally, even when there isn't bad intent behind it. So it's actually not great to call these people toxic, because they don't even really know how they're being taken (hurtfully?) by some people who aren't used to it.

That said, I do think it's better when people are nice to each other, and I definitely wish for that to grow, in general as well as here. We're somewhat lucky for the amount of people here that're able to be nice and bring fresh takes, and I'm surprised also by the Isaac thread for them to have so many and a lot of them are nice. Cherish what you can of the kindness there is, because sometimes it's actually rare.

I have more insights about some things Ive seen around, but I'll leave it at that for now, and I might go into more if I can actually bring to something the table..
In whatever case, let's enjoy the company and the journey to Shantae in smash as much as we can :)

ShantaeRun.gif~c200.gif
 
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meleebrawler

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So I met Rottytops in the original.

Boy, she's actually quite different from her characterization in later games. Rather than being a compulsive liar, she's almost brutally honest. Shantae must really have been the first person to not run in fear or disgust away from her, even as Rotty attempted to push her away. Dag nab...
 

Dyllybirdy

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So I met Rottytops in the original.

Boy, she's actually quite different from her characterization in later games. Rather than being a compulsive liar, she's almost brutally honest. Shantae must really have been the first person to not run in fear or disgust away from her, even as Rotty attempted to push her away. Dag nab...
That's terrible.

I don't like that at all...
 
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Unlike lax Chris do you guys know who the worstest smash leak youtuber is? Take a guess because I found the worst one ever:p
 
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Shadowknight1

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So I met Rottytops in the original.

Boy, she's actually quite different from her characterization in later games. Rather than being a compulsive liar, she's almost brutally honest. Shantae must really have been the first person to not run in fear or disgust away from her, even as Rotty attempted to push her away. Dag nab...
I wouldn't say Rotty is a compulsive liar in the later games. She just has a hard time expressing herself outside of "I'm gunna eats ur brainz". My personal interpretation of her wanting Shantae's brain in Risky's Revenge was that she didn't want anything bad happening to Shantae.
 

Teeb147

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Unlike lax Chris do you guys know who the worstest smash leak youtuber is? Take a guess because I found the worst one ever:p
I dont quite get why you keep looking at leaks and stuff when you don't like them :/
 
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Wademan94

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I wouldn't say Rotty is a compulsive liar in the later games. She just has a hard time expressing herself outside of "I'm gunna eats ur brainz". My personal interpretation of her wanting Shantae's brain in Risky's Revenge was that she didn't want anything bad happening to Shantae.
I hope in future games, we get to see Rotty making the effort to become more of a friend towards Shantae and the others now that she knows Shantae sees her as being more than just a zombie. I actually kinda want to see Rotty confronting Shantae about how she knows what she was like when she was alive
 

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I’m not sorry for the Gif.

In all seriousness, we need to stop giving fake leaks attention and focus on friendly discussion. By doing so, these so called “leakers” are forced to move on and we stop worrying about them. It’s a win win!
 
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I’m not sorry for the Gif.

In all seriousness, we need to stop giving fake leaks attention and focus on friendly discussion. By doing so, these so called “leakers” are forced to move on and we stop worrying about them. It’s a win win!
I was just showing them a terrible YouTuber that clams leaks not a leaker
 

Dyllybirdy

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I dont quite get why you keep looking at leaks and stuff when you don't like them :/
Hmm, dunno. Maybe he likes the pain? 'Tis strange.

And mommy, can we snuggle? I feel terrible.

This is the worst smash leak you tuber I meantioned if all of you were wondering
I know a worse one, but I'm actually quite friendly with him, he's a nice guy, and a Shantae supporter!

I'd rather not be rude.
 
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Hmm, dunno. Maybe he likes the pain? 'Tis strange.

And mommy, can we snuggle? I feel terrible.



I know a worse one, but I'm actually quite friendly with him, he's a nice guy, and a Shantae supporter!

I'd rather not be rude.

Oh
I’m sorry:(

But who’s this worse one?
 
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Nah, nothing to be sorry about.

It'd be better for all of us if we stop bringing up these fake leaks though. :)

And, I'd rather not say. I'm friendly with him, and calling him out here would just be mean.
Ok I agree

But still who’s this worst one you mentioned?
 

ActualGarbage

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Nah, nothing to be sorry about.

It'd be better for all of us if we stop bringing up these fake leaks though. :)

And, I'd rather not say. I'm friendly with him, and calling him out here would just be mean.
The fact that Connor is asking you to basically throw your friend under the bus is the funniest thing to me.
 

Teeb147

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Ok I agree

But still who’s this worst one you mentioned?
Have you ever heard the expression curiosity killed the :052: ?
I'm just saying, you tend to look a lot in places you might not end up liking.
 
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Paragon-Yoshi

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I dont think anyone was tyring to beat anyone down, I think that's actually a perception (maybe from being sensitive to certain things), because many people are used to the ways of the internet and argue almost naturally, even when there isn't bad intent behind it. So it's actually not great to call these people toxic, because they don't even really know how they're being taken (hurtfully?) by some people who aren't used to it.
I'm sorry...
But if someone is twisting around my words constantly to make what I say appear bad, even say I'm things like "a willful ignorant moron" or something like that...
How is that not being toxic?!
 
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Teeb147

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I'm sorry...
But if someone is twisting around my words constantly to make what I say appear bad, even say I'm things like "a willful ignorant moron" or something like that...
How is that not being toxic?!
I didn't see that part, that's pretty harsh if they did say that. I would chalk it up as someone being frustrated (with some arguments, Im guessing). Things like that happen when frustration spills over the discussion. It's not good when it borders on insults, and in some cases it might even cause a warning, but to me calling it as being toxic for not being able to manage their emotions is kind of harsh as well. I know it's hard to stay respectful when someone's not respectful to us, and really I think if it gets to that point it may be a time to either say one last thing, like about not liking the way the discussion is going and about letting go of the discussion for the time, and if it doesn't stop then ignore them or something.

Those are just ideas, I dont know the best solution, but I do know that it's normal for people to get a little heated sometimes and go a little too far, and I'm not saying you should take it, and I'm sorry it was harsh on you sometimes, I just also think that it's something you have to learn to deal with too (whether it's to find ways to bring it back down, or simply let go of it for the time, or them).

Anyway, we can just do our best and learn from things (to try and go better). :)
 
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*Phone ringing*

SB: "Hello, this is the gif shop, how may I help you?"
GL: "Yes I am ordering my daily Rotty gifs."
SB: "Oh GL, our valuable customer, we will get right on that."
GL: "Thanks, you guys do the best work and I am always satisfied."
SB: "Your welcome. At the gif shop we always try to give our best effort to our gifs for customer satisfaction."

To be serious, we have this day for Nintendo to announce a Direct so if it doesn't happen then no 10/10 Direct(rumor would be debunked).
 

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I wouldn't say Rotty is a compulsive liar in the later games. She just has a hard time expressing herself outside of "I'm gunna eats ur brainz". My personal interpretation of her wanting Shantae's brain in Risky's Revenge was that she didn't want anything bad happening to Shantae.
From Risky's Revenge onward, she lies about: the deal she and her brothers made with Risky, her legs going numb after an encounter with Empress Spider and possibly about Hypno Baron ending the world. Half-Genie Hero in particular, she's often dishonest when she frankly has no reason to be.

And when she sees herself in Shantae's memories, she notes how HONEST it is, as if the concept is foreign to her.

I hope in future games, we get to see Rotty making the effort to become more of a friend towards Shantae and the others now that she knows Shantae sees her as being more than just a zombie. I actually kinda want to see Rotty confronting Shantae about how she knows what she was like when she was alive
Well, confront might be a bit strong given that Rotty doesn't have much room to be casting the stones herself regarding honesty. She'd probably just try to gently inquire about it instead.
 

SuperNintendoKid

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it's so late right now but i did it quickly so it’s definitely not my best drawings in general, here's my attempt/rough draft to what people think is gonna happen, wish i could shove link somewhere else
shantae thingy with bg.png


oh and here's the full drawing LOL
shantae thingy.png
 
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Dyllybirdy

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*Phone ringing*

SB: "Hello, this is the gif shop, how may I help you?"
GL: "Yes I am ordering my daily Rotty gifs."
SB: "Oh GL, our valuable customer, we will get right on that."
GL: "Thanks, you guys do the best work and I am always satisfied."
SB: "Your welcome. At the gif shop we always try to give our best effort to our gifs for customer satisfaction."

To be serious, we have this day for Nintendo to announce a Direct so if it doesn't happen then no 10/10 Direct(rumor would be debunked).
Good morning everybody! How are you all doing?
Oh, and here you go kind sir. :)

Enjoy. ;)
 
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