Shantae, the Half Genie Protector of Scuttle Town! (A Switch To A New WayForward)

[Shadowknight1]

I'd still rather have Chun-Li, the queen of fighters, in the biggest crossover fighting game of all time, like she deserves to be, over Ken any day. Ken wouldn't kill me either, just Chun-Li deserves it more.

I agree. Heck, I'd take freaking SAKURA over Ken. And I hate Sakura...though it's for a very weird reason.

 

[Captain Hazama]

Not gonna lie, that would be one of the better choices for a second SF character. Though I would love to see M. Bison or Akuma in this game in some fashion.

I would love M. Bison more then Akuma, but won't shun Akuma if its him instead.

 

[RetroMetalSonic]

When If Shantae gets in, how would you guys want her moveset to be? She kinda has more fighting styles than they could possibly fit into a Smash character.

• Hair whipping
• General physical attacks with her hips and legs (similar to how Mewtwo has tail moves, Smash characters often use the biggest parts of their models for moves)
• Items like the Spike Balls, Storm Puffs, etc.
• Pirate Tools
• The Forms (pretty much HAVE to be present)

My hope is that she'll have her forms as her specials being quick transformations a la the new Mr. Game & Watch. Up-special for harpy, monkey & elephant spread in there and one of the other forms. Then the pirate tools or spells could be smash or other normal moves.
Or they could reverse that and have the spells and pirate tools be specials and the forms be her smash attacks, with the charging animation being her actual dance. harpy Up smash, monkey side smash, elephant down smash.

While I never got around to creating a full moveset idea, I think her moves would mainly consist of magic and kicks (along with hair whips, of course), and also have her animal transformations as her main gimmick. I'm thinking something like a combination of Shulk's Arts and Pokémon Trainer. Each form having only a few attacks and abilities with their own strengths and weaknesses. (Elephant = raw powerhouse, but slow, Monkey = fast and agile, but lightweight, Spider = great range, but easily juggled, Harpy = amazing air game, but not impressive otherwise... Maybe they should have a small time limit on them with a cooldown period as well so no one abuses one form too much.)

 

[IGuessItsOver]

Which version of Shantae do you think would fit in the most in Smash?

 

[Shark X]

Artstyle-wise, Pirates Curse. But strong chance they will go with chibi Shantae from 4 instead unfortunately.

 

[Deleted member]

I prefer a mixed bag of all her 4 previous designs with the vest and sleeves.

 

[SoupCanMafia]

I think there's a strong argument for either PC's Style or HGH's Style. Though I won't go over every single bullet point like an actual analytical, I'll just provide my personal two strongest points for them both.
PC: Most recogizable, more "in-line" to other Smash characters design wise.
HGH: Newer, less likely to get stigma if included.
Connor has the better point, though.

 

[Shadowknight1]

Artstyle-wise, Pirates Curse. But strong chance they will go with chibi Shantae from 4 instead unfortunately.

Still better than one suggestion I saw. I saw someone on GameFAQs say that if she gets in, she should be a flat, 2D character like Game & Watch.

Personally, I think they'll take more inspiration from her portraits rather than her sprites since the portraits are technically the "real" Shantae.

 

[kevinthedot]

I know a lot of people keep saying Shantae's overall design is too lewd to be in Smash, but it really wouldn't be hard for them to just give her a bit more cloth to make her more comfortably E10+ without ruining her outfit. They did the same with Palutena, lowering the wedge in her dress from her hip to her thigh.
I even made some quick edits of different ways they could change her top to make it more acceptable, if need. Also lifted her pants line up a bit so they looked more like actual pants.
https://imgur.com/a/8dLIXeH

 

[smashkirby]

I'd still rather have Chun-Li, the queen of fighters, in the biggest crossover fighting game of all time, like she deserves to be, over Ken any day. Ken wouldn't kill me either, just Chun-Li deserves it more.

I don't hate Ken, but I'm so used to seeing Chun-Li in EVERY crossover that features Ryu, that it strikes me as a little weird to not see her in this game.

Still better than one suggestion I saw. I saw someone on GameFAQs say that if she gets in, she should be a flat, 2D character like Game & Watch.

Personally, I think they'll take more inspiration from her portraits rather than her sprites since the portraits are technically the "real" Shantae.

I think there's a strong argument for either PC's Style or HGH's Style. Though I won't go over every single bullet point like an actual analytical, I'll just provide my personal two strongest points for them both.
PC: Most recogizable, more "in-line" to other Smash characters design wise.
HGH: Newer, less likely to get stigma if included.
Connor has the better point, though.

I take it that I'm the only one here who'd want Shantae to use her Risky's Revenge look mixed with her Pirate's Curse vest?

 

[Deleted member]

I take it that I'm the only one here who'd want Shantae to use her Risky's Revenge look mixed with her Pirate's Curse vest?

Nope I want that too

 

[meleebrawler]

When If Shantae gets in, how would you guys want her moveset to be? She kinda has more fighting styles than they could possibly fit into a Smash character.

• Hair whipping
• General physical attacks with her hips and legs (similar to how Mewtwo has tail moves, Smash characters often use the biggest parts of their models for moves)
• Items like the Spike Balls, Storm Puffs, etc.
• Pirate Tools
• The Forms (pretty much HAVE to be present)

My hope is that she'll have her forms as her specials being quick transformations a la the new Mr. Game & Watch. Up-special for harpy, monkey & elephant spread in there and one of the other forms. Then the pirate tools or spells could be smash or other normal moves.
Or they could reverse that and have the spells and pirate tools be specials and the forms be her smash attacks, with the charging animation being her actual dance. harpy Up smash, monkey side smash, elephant down smash.

The issues I have with Pirate Gear go beyond merely being out of character. They're just... bland, and most can functionally be replaced by spells or transformations.

As for implementing the forms, the issue mainly comes from the fact that Pokemon Trainer, a character with essentially three forms with very different attributes and nearly full movesets exists, so giving Shantae anything less for her transformations if implemented similarly will make her look very inferior.

Here's a possible compromise: the forms are included as normal attacks and certain specials... but you also have access to a dance special that will power up said moves from a given form when the appropriate dance is used. Yeah it's not 1:1 how it works in source material, but neither is Inkling.

Example: The elephant dash is her forward smash. Using the elephant dance beforehand will cause it to go further, do more damage and gain armour.

 

[RetroMetalSonic]

Which version of Shantae do you think would fit in the most in Smash?

Probably the Half Genie Hero version. Although I don't know if they'll base her off of the portrait style or the little playable chibi style... I guess it depends on if they want her to fit in with characters like Pit and Zelda or Toon Link and Mega Man.

 

[zferolie]

honestly if they were going with a ryu echo, I wish they went with Akuma. He's much more interest, he is the face of Street fighter crossovers, and being able to do his super in smash? amazing.

as for shantae moveset, I still like the one I posted... like what 100 pages ago? her normals are most of her normal attacks she has down, UAin is pirate hat with a float tied to it, smash are her magic attack. Her Up B is the pirate canon, and side B the simitar. I used to have Down B be transform due to kirby, but people brought up that kirby could just only get monkey, which makes sense. Not sure what I would make the Down B then I used to have B as pirate Pistol...

 

[meleebrawler]

honestly if they were going with a ryu echo, I wish they went with Akuma. He's much more interest, he is the face of Street fighter crossovers, and being able to do his super in smash? amazing.

That'd frankly be a gross misrepresentation of Akuma, he's supposed to be much faster, stronger and versatile than Ryu with the downside of being really frail when playable. That plus losing access to most of his unique moves by virtue of being an echo wouldn't really make him Akuma.

 

[kevinthedot]

The idea that there's only 2 more characters left is ridiculous. They've got 12 weeks till release, there's gonna be way more than that just from whenever they do another Smash Direct.

I'm still sticking to the other ridiculous end of the spectrum and saying we got 7-8 characters (including echos) left based on the Smash blog.

• We have a pretty solid average of 3 Today's Fighter posts a week (we're currently a bit under 3 since the direct delay pushed Isabelle's Today's Fighter post from two weeks ago to tonight, so two weeks ago we only had 2 fighter posts)
• There's 12 weeks left till the game comes out (it comes out on a Friday)
• 12 x 3 = 36 more posts if they kept the average at 3 like they have since the blog started
• There are only 29 confirmed characters left that haven't gotten Today's Fighter posts
• 36-29 is 7 unconfirmed posts (the number would have been 8 if not for the direct Delay)
• Every week we get 2 fighters it goes down by 1, every week we get 4 it goes up by 1

Obviously it's a really weak thing to hold onto since they could easily just stop doing Today's Fighter posts or slow them down, but so far that hasn't really happened. Outside the direct delay week, every week they did 2 there was a week they did 4 to compensate.
Just going by the trend we currently have, there should be a minimum of 7 reveals left, counting Echos. I imagine we could get 5 more at a new Smash direct in like November and 2-3 more single reveals like Shulk or Duck Hunt got.
With that many left, Shantae definitely has a strong chance at making the base roster.

 

[Xevious 1]

I know a lot of people keep saying Shantae's overall design is too lewd to be in Smash, but it really wouldn't be hard for them to just give her a bit more cloth to make her more comfortably E10+ without ruining her outfit. They did the same with Palutena, lowering the wedge in her dress from her hip to her thigh.
I even made some quick edits of different ways they could change her top to make it more acceptable, if need. Also lifted her pants line up a bit so they looked more like actual pants.
https://imgur.com/a/8dLIXeH

Yeah, just cover her cleavage and the problem is solved. Hopefully there isn't legions of stupid people complaining about censorship just because they cover her up slightly.

 

[Shadowknight1]

Yeah, just cover her cleavage and the problem is solved. Hopefully there isn't legions of stupid people complaining about censorship just because they cover her up slightly.

I would. I'm sorry, but I don't like it when things like this are done. I didn't like it for Corrin and I'd hate it for Shantae.

 

[Shark X]

Same I HATE censorship if I notice it.

 

[kevinthedot]

I would. I'm sorry, but I don't like it when things like this are done. I didn't like it for Corrin and I'd hate it for Shantae.

Same I HATE censorship if I notice it.

Come on, this wouldn't be that bad.

Spoiler: Simple fix

 

[Kirbeh]

Wouldn't be that bad but it would be unnecessary. Her original designs are fine as they are. Bayonetta's Wicked Weaves I can understand, but everything else should be fine for Smash, well imo.

 

[Hollywoodrok12]

The problem with Shantae is that the part you'd censor is in the forefront of her design, whereas the ones with Female Corrin and Palutena are less noticeable from looking at their designs alone. Heck, I didn't even realize that they were censored until I read it here. That makes it hard for Sakurai to censor her without compromising her design. I don't feel he'll change much (if anything at all) tho, since Zero Suit Samus has not one, but two alts where she's in a bikini and the game still passed with an E10.

 

[SoupCanMafia]

The problem with Shantae is that the part you'd censor is in the forefront of her design, whereas the ones with Female Corrin and Palutena are less noticeable from looking at their designs alone. Heck, I didn't even realize that they were censored until I read it here. That makes it hard for Sakurai to censor her without compromising her design. I don't feel he'll change much (if anything at all) tho, since Zero Suit Samus has not one, but two alts where she's in a bikini and the game still passed with an E10.

One of the less "controversial" ways to censor her would to be making her "vest" slightly longer, though that's a bit odd, too. Or just go full oddity and give her the "Watch Quest" outfit.
Oh yeah, and if I may, by technicality, scimitars are now technically associated with Shantae as well due to HGH's maximum Pike Ball being the Scimitars. So that's one piece of Pirate Gear that can fit her.

 

[kevinthedot]

Wouldn't be that bad but it would be unnecessary. Her original designs are fine as they are. Bayonetta's Wicked Weaves I can understand, but everything else should be fine for Smash, well imo.

The problem with Shantae is that the part you'd censor is in the forefront of her design, whereas the ones with Female Corrin and Palutena are less noticeable from looking at their designs alone. Heck, I didn't even realize that they were censored until I read it here. That makes it hard for Sakurai to censor her without compromising her design. I don't feel he'll change much (if anything at all) tho, since Zero Suit Samus has not one, but two alts where she's in a bikini and the game still passed with an E10.

The biggest possible design issue with her making E10+ is her cleavage. I may be wrong here, but no smash girl has exposed cleavage. Palutena's dress is strapless, but it still clings abouve her breasts. ZSS' orange alt is the most "exposed" costume in the game, and even that has the open part of the top above her boobs.

I don't WANT them to censor her, but if her cleavage has any chance of keeping her from Smash, I'd gladly sacrifice it for her to be in.

 

[Wademan94]

Here's my stance on certain topics recently discussed here:

Design: While I have no issues with her Pirate's Curse design or artstyle, I think it would be best to have her be represented in her Half-Genie Hero portrait design (maybe with her arm bands from the first two games to kinda fill out her top a bit more if needed) for two main reasons-it's the detailed design that closest matches the proportions of her sprites which if Mega Man is any indication appears to be taken into consideration and depending on how they scale her, her taller designs could render her hair whip useless against certain characters.

Moveset: I posted this a WHILE ago, so I'm just gonna put it here in spoiler tag so it doesn't take up too much space, let me know if any of you have feedback, I'd really appreciate it.

Spoiler: Shantae's Full Moveset

On-screen Entrance: Shantae flies in with Sky on Wrench and hops onto the stage saying "Ret-2-Go!"

Neutral Attack: whips her hair to attack up to 3-times in succession (Both the down tilt and neutral aerial also use the hair whip)
Dash Attack: Slides forward with her feet up (Rottytops race from GBC game)
Forward Tilt: Power Kick from Pirate’s Curse
Up Tilt: She manually pushes her ponytail upward to have it whip opponents from above

Forward Smash: Elbow dash from the first Shantae game, propels her forward a good distance
Down Smash: Puts her hands together and shakes her hips forward then backward (uses the dance mapped to the A button in the first game/elephant dance from Risky’s Revenge)
Up Smash: 2-hit spin kick from the first Shantae game, the kick could potentially knock any opponents in front of her upwards to get hit by the somersault

Forward Aerial: Based off her twirl attack from the first game, she spins around ballerina style with her hair hitting opponents as she twirls around. Propels her forward in the air
Back Aerial: Thrusts her hip back similar to Peach
Up Aerial: In a pose similar to her Half-Genie Hero artwork, she thrusts her hand upward with a Fireball in her hand
Down Aerial: The drill attack from the first game, similar to Sonic’s Down air, but can hit an opponent more than once.

Grab: non-tether grab and she pummels her opponent by using her hip.
Forward Throw: She hair-whips her opponent.
Back Throw: Throws her opponent behind her while using Flamethrower to torch her opponent, hits multiple times
Up Throw: Tosses her opponent up and hits them with multiple scimitars orbiting around her
Down throw: Throws her opponent to the ground and uses Super Mega Puff to shock her opponent

Neutral Special: Transformation Dance, similar to Half-Genie Hero, Shantae dances and activates a selection of transformations around her and must select a direction to transform similar to Shulk’s new Monado Arts activation (lasts for 10-15 sec., shield and B to cancel out) Each Transformation would have one attack and one special attack

Forward-Monkey (Low Damage and more taken, High Jump, Wall Climb)
Attack: Monkey Claw (overhead slash, can be used in rapid succession)
Special: Monkey Bullet (weak but fast dash, slightly slower than Fox Illusion)

Down-Elephant (Low Speed and Jump, High Knockback and Less Taken)
Attack: Elephant Dash (slow but powerful dash attack)
Special: Elephant Stomp (high knockback)

Back-Spider (double jump allows her to use webbing to pull herself up if a surface is above, also capable of grabbing enemies and pulling them to her to jump off of)
Attack: Spider Leg (performs an uppercut with her frontal leg similar to the Bonelegs enemy in HGH, effectively attacks enemies above her)
Special: Spider Venom (continuously deals damage similar to flowers)

Up-Harpy (Less Traction and Floaty, Multiple Jumps)
Attack: Harpy Talon (overhead slash, potential meteor smash)
Special: Harpy Feather (low damage, but can fire multiple at a time)

Side Special: Triple Fireball-shoots out three fire balls-one straight forward, one angled upward, and one angled down.

Up Special: Storm Puff-summons a Storm Puff to hang on to as it floats upwards for a bit, the puff will send thunder down at its peak and disappear after. She can jump off at any time, but if she hangs on too long she’ll be shocked off in the direction she’s facing (no damage, but free-fall animation).

Down Special: Pike Ball-similar to Mega Man’s Leaf Shield, one Pike Ball revolves around Shantae. It lasts a bit longer but can’t be thrown.

Final Smash: Half-Genie’s Power: To start, Shantae would transform into the mermaid to trap her opponents in bubbles which would gather into one, then all her main transformations from HGH (Mermaid, Spider, Harpy, Monkey, and if they have time to model them out: Crab, Bat, and Mouse) fly back and forth across the screen to attack the captured opponents, and finally she’d fly up off-screen to smash the opponents to the ground with the giant elephant and send them flying. (inspired by several attacks Shantae uses for her boss at the end of Pirate Queen’s Quest) The background of the stage would change to resemble the Genie Realm from HGH.

Her taunts would consist of some of the belly dances from the GBA game, specifically the ones mapped to the D-Pad (potential Easter egg could have you transform to a Tinkerbat for a moment when you put in the button combination for that dance)

Idle Animations:
-Straightening out her hair like in Pirate’s Curse
-Places her hand on her hip and puts out her finger to create a dancing flame (cover art for Risky’s Revenge)
-Imitates Rottytop’s idle stance for a bit

Victory Animations:
-Spinning around in midair like she does when she completes a stage from her games
-Her flying in her monkey form to grab a gem, then transforming back to perform a dance (like in Super Shantae NAB)
-Landing from a jump and performing her Stage Clear pose from HGH

With her games, Shantae's base form is the most versatile while her transformations give her access to abilities and attributes she could need to tackle obstacles she needs to overcome, I tried to adapt these ideas to suit a fighting game, and I feel like having the transformations like this could make Shantae the Smash equivalent of a Swiss army knife. I don't hate the Pirate Gear, I just feel like it would hold Shantae back from being really unique and I think that there are a few too many moves performed by Smash characters that do what the Pirate's Gear does.

 

[Deleted member]

The biggest possible design issue with her making E10+ is her cleavage. I may be wrong here, but no smash girl has exposed cleavage. Palutena's dress is strapless, but it still clings abouve her breasts. ZSS' orange alt is the most "exposed" costume in the game, and even that has the open part of the top above her boobs.

I don't WANT them to censor her, but if her cleavage has any chance of keeping her from Smash, I'd gladly sacrifice it for her to be in.

Honestly I don’t see a problem censoring her

 

[Wademan94]

So with all the talk about potential censoring her design, I remembered that found this on the Shantae Wiki, apparently this was a Valentines Day image, I think I’ll let you guys decide what to do with this:

 

[AngrySun88]

I personally don't care what design or moveset they give her as long as she's a fighter.

I doubt Sakruai would drastically change her.

 

[Hollywoodrok12]

So with all the talk about potential censoring her design, I remembered that found this on the Shantae Wiki, apparently this was a Valentines Day image, I think I’ll let you guys decide what to do:
View attachment 164763

That would actually work well, since it still feels like her design, IMO, but removes the cleavage problem, provided they make her chest stick out less, except for the armbands, I feel that they look moreso like a part of the sleeves. Maybe they could just cut the sleeves off just before the armbands or just remove the armbands, unless you think that'd be a problem.

(and obviously make it red)

 

[Shadowknight1]

Still guys...aside from covering up Corrin's thighs in the US and the slight change to Palutena, they've tried to stay as true as possible to the design the characters had in their original game. Or, like in the case of Zelda, are an amalgamation of several sources. Personally, I think that WayForward's design sheet they put out at the time of the ballot is the way she should look.

 

[Kirbeh]

The problem with Shantae is that the part you'd censor is in the forefront of her design, whereas the ones with Female Corrin and Palutena are less noticeable from looking at their designs alone. Heck, I didn't even realize that they were censored until I read it here. That makes it hard for Sakurai to censor her without compromising her design. I don't feel he'll change much (if anything at all) tho, since Zero Suit Samus has not one, but two alts where she's in a bikini and the game still passed with an E10.

Those probably passed on account of those two outfits not actually being bikinis. They're more of her casual wear.

Spoiler

Edit: Oh great, every image I post is broken...
-Hopefully fixed now.

Going back on topic, I think the image posted by kevinthedot would work best, the Shantae with the sleeved top just looks kind of weird imo

 

[Deleted member]

This may have been said before but where do you think shantae would be in the everyone is here art?

 

[Shark X]

Come on, this wouldn't be that bad.

Spoiler: Simple fix

See, there, I don't even notice you doing anything, so it's perfectly fine. Like I said, I hate noticable censorship. If I didn't know anything was censored, or I didn't noticed what got censored, I'm fine with it.

 

[kevinthedot]

Still guys...aside from covering up Corrin's thighs in the US and the slight change to Palutena, they've tried to stay as true as possible to the design the characters had in their original game. Or, like in the case of Zelda, are an amalgamation of several sources. Personally, I think that WayForward's design sheet they put out at the time of the ballot is the way she should look.

Don't forget Bayonetta's wicked weaves being toned down.
Also don't forget that Tharja had a trophy in the ESRB leak that was just flat out removed from the final build of the game, implying the ESRB found it to be too inappropriate for the age range they were aiming at.

If Shantae gets in, I imagine they will do something to cover her cleavage at least. It'd be great if they didn't, but it's just more than any other fighter in Smash has.
Same way I'm afraid they'd have to ruin Medusa's glorious side-boob if they actually put her in as a Palutena Echo.

 

[kevinthedot]

This may have been said before but where do you think shantae would be in the everyone is here art?

My guess. Just shift Link over a bit and she' could fit in perfectly butt-bumping Daisy back.

 

[Kirbeh]

This may have been said before but where do you think shantae would be in the everyone is here art?

I'd probably go with what seems to be the common answer of dancing with Daisy. Just seems too fitting a spot.
'd by kevinthedot

 

[Hollywoodrok12]

My guess. Just shift Link over a bit and she' could fit in perfectly butt-bumping Daisy back.

I know that theory is on the basis that there are other character interactions, but I kinda think some of them are coincidental. I kinda feel that Chrom isn't looking directly at Robin and that Mario and Pokemon Trainer aren't looking at each other. (Or does that help the theory, since Daisy looks like she's looking to the side?)

 

[kevinthedot]

I know that theory is on the basis that there are other character interactions, but I kinda think some of them are coincidental. I kinda feel that Chrom isn't looking directly at Robin and that Mario and Pokemon Trainer aren't looking at each other. (Or does that help the theory, since Daisy looks like she's looking to the side?)

They're all just action poses. I'm not sure what it is, but something about Daisy's just feels off. Like it's imbalanced as an action pose or there's simply too much directionality to it for her NOT to be bumping someone.

 

[LaBeteNoire]

So, I've been gone for a bit, time to give a summarized two cents.

I could see Incineroar happening, but I personally hope not. Not only do we already have a fully evolved fire starter already, but the roster of Smash is loaded with fire based fighters and other fighters with one or two fire based moves. With that, basically any other type would be better representation than another fire type.

So, grass would be the best option (being the least represented of the three main pokemon types) as outside of Ivysaur, the only other plant based moves/fighters are pikmin, villager's tree, and Lucas' stick. So Decidueye would be great, but I sadly don't think he will happen. One element wise he is already pretty similar to pit being archer based with wings. Second, I think his inclusion in Pokken might have hurt his chances. Sakurai seems like a proud man and i think when he sees someone else give a character a fighting moveset it makes him less interested in the character. Ryu being an exception as he was made for fighting games and the challenge became how to change him to fit a different type of fighting game.

So, even tho Incineroar is likely, I think the best remaining rep for gen 7 would be Zeraora. As the final pokemon of Gen 7 it is currently the most relevant promotion wise and the majority of the pokemon picked for Smash were picked for their relevancy more than anything: Mewtwo the biggest legend at the time with the most game lore, Lucario coming off the popularity of his movie. Plus with Zeraora we would have a third electric based fighter, the first two being a mouse and it's baby brother. Outside of the mice there are only a handful of electric based moves in the entire game so one more electric based fighter would provide more diversity than another fire or even another water based moveset (not as needed as more plants, but oh well)

Really, the only time Smash took a wild stab was with Greninja and they got very lucky that time as most fans agreed that he was the winner of gen 6 starters. The main difference there tho was that Greninja was added to Smash early in gen 6, as his star was rising. And honestly i wouldn't be surprised if the inclusion in Smash was one of the things that rocketed his popularity as high as it got. Incineroar doesn't have that benefit. Where Greninja was included in the spring of gen 6's life, Ultimate is happening as close to the Winter of Gen 7 as possible, gen 7 is on it's last legs and it shows. So Zeraora would be more of a send off for the generation and it's inclusion would be far more neutral. If Zeraora got in i'm sure some would be disappointed, but i don;t think anyone would really be mad. if Incineroar gets in some of his fans would be thrilled, but i think the rest would not be very pleased at all and some would be rather upset.

As fire starters are usually very popular with their die hard fan base, Incineroar is one of the most polarizing since Emboar.

Second, Incineroar may be the most popular in Japan, but even there it;s not the near unanimous acceptance that Greninja received. And outside of Japan he is even more polarizing

 

[Shadowknight1]

I know that theory is on the basis that there are other character interactions, but I kinda think some of them are coincidental. I kinda feel that Chrom isn't looking directly at Robin and that Mario and Pokemon Trainer aren't looking at each other. (Or does that help the theory, since Daisy looks like she's looking to the side?)

What the heck are you thinking? Chrom is CLEARLY looking down at his buddy who has his nose stuck in a book. And you can't tell me Dr. Mario isn't listening to Game & Watch's heartbeat with his stethoscope.