Shantae, the Half Genie Protector of Scuttle Town! (A Switch To A New WayForward)

[Shinuto]

Honestly, I think the jasmine comparison might add an extra helping hand to Shantae. Shantae's design is culturally accurate(At least I think it is), so there might be a bit gray area when it comes to censoring it. And as you say, it helps that Shantae is a bit more on the cartooney side.

I'd argue Jasmine is actually WORSE than Shantae given the far broader demographic shes reaches out to and her relatively less cartoonish proportions.

 

[Ultinarok]

I'll probably get 'd, but I'll try to go on this as a quick run down. Shantae is a half genie who fights evil by whipping enemies with her hair, belly-dancing to transform into various forms to traverse the world/solve puzzles/deal with certain enemies, and can use various items and spells she can earn or purchase. She would likely not face very many licensing issues as WayForward was very vocal about wanting her in Smash Bros. back during the Smash 4 ballot. All three of her first games were released originally on Nintendo platforms(and the first one is only available through the 3DS eShop), though the fourth released on multiple platforms simultaneously, likely due to being crowdfunded. She has a much longer history with Nintendo than almost any other Indie character, even appearing on the cover of Nintendo Power magazine. She exudes charm and quirkiness that is very similar to many Nintendo characters. Hopefully this is helpful!

Do you believe that the inclusion of Shovel Knight hurts her odds, enhances them, or has no effect? Also what are some of the things she can transform into? And what are some of her more interesting spells? Is she voice acted? Also do you think her design would be censored; is she too risque for Smash?

You don't have to answer all of these, they're just things I'm wondering. Smash and its speculation introduced me to Fire Emblem and Xenoblade, taught me about Geno, Bandana Dee, Ghirahim and others. I like being educated and introduced to new series. Smash is a good place to start for me with Shantae.

 

[LaBeteNoire]

Uhh no I think Primarina is the most popular in Japan.

This would make me very happy as she is my favorite of the three and my favorite fairy type overall. When i said Incineraor was the most popular in Japan I was taking the word of the Incineroar supporters (which i know isn;t accurate because i remember one saying Incineroar ws Masuda's favorite pokemon which we all know is actually Psyduck) to give them the best case scenario kind of treatment. Ash is primed to have his litten fully evolve and usually that is what sets a pokemon's popularity out there, so i was throwing them a bone and saying even with his best chances i don't think he is likely. Also his reference to the the Wrestling tiger manga gives him another small fanbase that like him purely for that.

And Decidueye is # 1 here. But let’s just say that Primarina isn’t exactly easy to put in smash (no legs, and isn’t known for being agile on land). That’s why the four I mentioned earlier are the main picks that could end up being playable. Also I hope Blastoise makes his spectacular pokeball return like Scizor did, but that might just be me.

Actually, before Pokemon Trainer was revealed to be back, i was hoping Blastoise could become a fighter, like a partial bowser clone with some of Squirtle's move from brawl mixed in and scaled up to fit a larger fighter.

I could still see it happening as DLC, but I do still think there is more than enough Gen one in the game right now... Tho I could also see a Rival trainer as a playable character who has Blastoise, Charmeleon and Bulbasaur (the counters to all of Pkmn Trainers') but that would be Gen 1 overkill.

 

[Shark X]

Posted this on the Shantae Smash Discord, but got drowned out quickly, so I figured I'd also post it here. Not important, just my personal Shantae story.

I only knew of her from a few pages her GBC game had on Nintendo Power. I liked her, and was interested in the game, but I was a kid back then so had no way to get it. Semi-forgot her existence (those Nintendo Power articles were still kind of in the back of my mind in a nostalgic way) until I started seeing advertisements for Pirates Curse. And since I had a job then, I bought it on WiiU. Since then, I wanted her in Smash Bros 4, ESPECIALLY after I found out WayForward wanted her in. I remember Kojima wanted Snake in Melee, got him in Brawl. Figured with WayForward fighter for her like that, she had a chance as DLC at least. Was wrong this time of course...but, maybe this time...

 

[Shadowknight1]

Honestly, I think the jasmine comparison might add an extra helping hand to Shantae. Shantae's design is culturally accurate(At least I think it is), so there might be a bit gray area when it comes to censoring it. And as you say, it helps that Shantae is a bit more on the cartooney side.

Yeah. If Disney can get away with it, surely Shantae can.

 

[Shark X]

Yeah but I feel Disney is a little more...Social Justice Warrior-y these days. I guess it depends on how Jasmine looks in Wreck-It Ralph 2. Haven't seen images of her in that movie yet, so don't know if they changed anything. But from what I seen, they are all wearing different clothes, like pajamas or something.

EDIT: Was 100% wrong about the pajamas. The hell was I thinking about?

EDIT 2: No I was wrong, just a different scene I guess.

 

[Deleted member]

Do you believe that the inclusion of Shovel Knight hurts her odds

No she has a strong chance of being the first indie rep

 

[Hollywoodrok12]

Do you believe that the inclusion of Shovel Knight hurts her odds, enhances them, or has no effect? Also what are some of the things she can transform into? And what are some of her more interesting spells? Is she voice acted? Also do you think her design would be censored; is she too risque for Smash?

You don't have to answer all of these, they're just things I'm wondering. Smash and its speculation introduced me to Fire Emblem and Xenoblade, taught me about Geno, Bandana Dee, Ghirahim and others. I like being educated and introduced to new series. Smash is a good place to start for me with Shantae.

I think Shovel Knight increases her odds, because there's a chance that he was shelved to make her a fighter. It also shows that Sakurai isn't afraid to represent indies. While some may say that "If he can't get in, she can't either", they would also say that "If Shovel Knight is in, she can't be in because Shovel Knight's the indie rep".
Some of her transformations include a monkey, an elephant, a harpy and a mermaid. There are others, but those are the most well-known.
She can send out three fireballs at once, which spread out. She can also summon spike balls (or swords, if upgraded enough) which fly around her and act almost a shield that damages enemies.
She isn't entirely voice acted, but she does have a voice actor that I believe would be brought in for Smash, especially considering how she has had multiple characters voice acted for Nintendo recently.
As for her being censored, we aren't so sure (at least I think we're not), but if Bayo can get in and ZSS can get away with her 2 shirtless alts, I think Sakurai can think of something that'll work.

 

[Shadowknight1]

Do you believe that the inclusion of Shovel Knight hurts her odds, enhances them, or has no effect? Also what are some of the things she can transform into? And what are some of her more interesting spells? Is she voice acted? Also do you think her design would be censored; is she too risque for Smash?

You don't have to answer all of these, they're just things I'm wondering. Smash and its speculation introduced me to Fire Emblem and Xenoblade, taught me about Geno, Bandana Dee, Ghirahim and others. I like being educated and introduced to new series. Smash is a good place to start for me with Shantae.

Shovel Knight's inclusion could potentially help or hurt her odds. It depends on how much indie representation Sakurai wants to put in the game. Her transformations include: Monkey(helps her climb walls and can do a dash attack to jump from wall to wall), Elephant(slow, but can charge and stomp obstacles and enemies), Spider(can climb certain surfaces and use webs, can also shoot poison), and Harpy(flies and can attack with either kicks or shooting feathers). She can also have a Mermaid transformation, but since swimming isn't a big part of Smash, I don't think it would come into play here. Spells consist of Fireballs, Storm Puffs(small thunderclouds), and Pike Balls(orbiting spiked balls that act as a barrier). She is voice acted by the talented Christina Vee who also sings the theme song for Shantae 1/2 Genie Hero, "Dance Through the Danger". And I personally don't see her design as too risque.

 

[Wademan94]

Do you believe that the inclusion of Shovel Knight hurts her odds, enhances them, or has no effect? Also what are some of the things she can transform into? And what are some of her more interesting spells? Is she voice acted? Also do you think her design would be censored; is she too risque for Smash?

You don't have to answer all of these, they're just things I'm wondering. Smash and its speculation introduced me to Fire Emblem and Xenoblade, taught me about Geno, Bandana Dee, Ghirahim and others. I like being educated and introduced to new series. Smash is a good place to start for me with Shantae.

-It’s hard to say exactly what Shovel Knight’s inclusion holds for Shantae, but it definitely broke down the barrier for indie and in general third party representation in Smash
-Her main mechanic is transforming into different creatures with their own attributes (monkey, elephant, spider, mermaid, and harpy to name a few), some other magic she can do is shoot fire, create small storm clouds, and summon orbiting spiked balls ala Leaf Shield and she has a few other fighting techniques aside from her hair whip
-Starting with the third game, Cristina Vee, a well known anime and video game voice actress, voices her
-Hard to say, we’re still debating that, though considering Krystal’s in her Adventures outfit, I don’t think it’d be too much of a problem

 

[SoupCanMafia]

God this gonna sound dumb but whats the song in his intros?


I feel I SHOULD know it.

At the risk of sounding like an idiot and/or an , I think the theme is a remix to the City Trial theme.

This is a close-up of Krystal as she appears as an assist trophy in Smash Bros Ultimate. All things considering, I think Shantae will fit in just fine, as long as she doesn't have her definitive gainaxing.
Though I do hope that when she does her butt wiggle animation when she's crouching, that it's not completely removed, though I can understand if it is removed.

 

[Wademan94]

At the risk of sounding like an idiot and/or an , I think the theme is a remix to the City Trial theme.

Yeah, It’s the Ultimate remix of City Trial:
https://www.smashbros.com/en_US/sound/index.html

 

[LaBeteNoire]

Yeah but I feel Disney is a little more...Social Justice Warrior-y these days. I guess it depends on how Jasmine looks in Wreck-It Ralph 2. Haven't seen images of her in that movie yet, so don't know if they changed anything. But from what I seen, they are all wearing different clothes, like pajamas or something.

EDIT: Was 100% wrong about the pajamas. The hell was I thinking about?

EDIT 2: No I was wrong, just a different scene I guess.

Spoiler: Jasmine, Wreck it Ralph 2

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net...ision/latest?cb=20180602210620&path-prefix=es

Doesn't look like it would be much of a problem. more of a tube top rather than a swim top, but a similar look could easily work for Shantae.

 

[Shadowknight1]

Spoiler: Jasmine, Wreck it Ralph 2

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net...ision/latest?cb=20180602210620&path-prefix=es

Doesn't look like it would be much of a problem. more of a tube top rather than a swim top, but a similar look could easily work for Shantae.

The only differences in that and Jasmine's original design is she has a weird kinda skirt around her pants and some gold trim on her pants and top.

 

[Shark X]

Still, as long as Shantae gets her slave outfit, I'll be happy >.>

 

[LaBeteNoire]

Still, as long as Shantae gets her slave outfit, I'll be happy >.>

I mean... I wouldn't get my hopes up, but i guess anything is possible. I'd say her jammies would be a definite costume swap tho.

 

[Wademan94]

Still, as long as Shantae gets her slave outfit, I'll be happy >.>

That’s all I have to say

 

[Deleted member]

Still, as long as Shantae gets her slave outfit, I'll be happy >.>

Thats Space Princess outfit to you mister.

 

[Deleted member]

Still, as long as Shantae gets her slave outfit, I'll be happy >.>

Me:

 

[Teeb147]

Dyllybirdy :

I might die in a few hours, ..

Can you please convey this post on to the thread? I want them to know how I'm doing, ..

I love you so much Teeb. <3
Thank you for everything.

 

[SoupCanMafia]

Still, as long as Shantae gets her slave outfit, I'll be happy >.>

...that sounds so horrible when you put it like that XD

...Excuse me for a second, I need to go weep my soul out.

 

[Veodok]

That’s all I have to say

Risky looks better in it anyway; she's actually really pretty with her hair down.

 

[LaBeteNoire]

Dyllybirdy :

I might die in a few hours, ..

Can you please convey this post on to the thread? I want them to know how I'm doing, ..

I love you so much Teeb. <3
Thank you for everything.

Last I heard from Dylly, he said he was happy and at peace... God, this is so sad, but in truth I'm glad I got to know him even at all even if it has to end this soon.

 

[GoldLiger]

Thats Space Princess outfit to you mister.

To think even with that outfit the game was still rated "E10+". So yeah it is acceptable.

 

[Captain Hazama]

Dyllybirdy :

I might die in a few hours, ..

Can you please convey this post on to the thread? I want them to know how I'm doing, ..

I love you so much Teeb. <3
Thank you for everything.

Jesus...... I honestly don't know what to say... God I hope he goes to a better place with no pain. I'm really going to miss him. And I bet if Rotty was real, she would be devastated as well.

 

[Deleted member]

Dyllybirdy :

I might die in a few hours, ..

Can you please convey this post on to the thread? I want them to know how I'm doing, ..

I love you so much Teeb. <3
Thank you for everything.

Please don’t

 

[WingedSupernova]

God this gonna sound dumb but whats the song in his intros?


I feel I SHOULD know it.

That's the Smash Ultimate City Trial remix from Kirby Air Ride.

 

[GoldLiger]

Dyllybirdy :

I might die in a few hours, ..

Can you please convey this post on to the thread? I want them to know how I'm doing, ..

I love you so much Teeb. <3
Thank you for everything.

Wow I just can't believe that one of our own is going away....well the only thing I can do is to pray and remember you from the bottom of my heart.

 

[Teeb147]

..
Teeb147 :

I don't know if that's all I should do. Sorry for coming in a late. If you can. If you're still there. If you're going to be there.
I will try to stay composed a bit and see what comes.

Thank you Dylly. for meeting you, for touching my life, for being true to yourself in all sorts of ways, even if there was a lot of pain affecting you. I'm sorry I couldn't help you more. I love you and I will miss you.

 

[LaBeteNoire]

We all love you, Dyllybirdy Thanks for spending some time with us and letting us get to know you!

 

[Deleted member]

Goodbye dyllybirdy you mean so much to me

 

[Mrs.Milky]

Oh my gosh, is he gone?

 

[Parallel_Falchion]

You like twisting people's words, don't you?

The point is: There is no evidence that prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that he has legit sources.
So it's all just speculation.

You can believe him having legit sources based on his track record all you want.
But it doesn't rule out that it could've been all lucky guesses as well.
Only hard proof can do that.


Seriously though, is this even about leakers... or bashing a person, because an opportunity presented itself?!

By this logic he could get literally every detail about the game correct and you would say, "He just got lucky." This is incredibly poor logic. I didn't twist your words.

If you feel like you're being bashed, maybe it's time for you to stop responding.

 

[IGuessItsOver]

Wow wow wtf is happening? I'm legit sad and scared at the same time what's going on?
What's happening to Dyllybirdy ??

EDIT: Damn....

 

[Teeb147]

It was the last message I got. I'm sorry guys, I don't know if dylly's still there or not. I just did what I thought was best, and I'm just going to take some time to cry or whatever now ok?

Love you all.

 

[SneakyLink]

“What we have once enjoyed deeply we can never lose. All that we love deeply becomes a part of us.” Helen Keller

 

[Shadowknight1]

I'm about to head to bed, but before I go...
Dyllybirdy I didn't know you very long, but I can say that you will very much be missed here. I hope that if you can't recover, you will at least be at peace.

 

[LaBeteNoire]

Wow wow wtf is happening? I'm legit sad and scared at the same time what's going on?
What's happening to Dyllybirdy ??

EDIT: Damn....

We don't fully know, just that Dylly has some kind of condition that he has known about for a while that is now becoming more serious.

Last night he was with a doctor and later brought to a hospital.

Everyone, let's try not to be sad, because Dylly doesn't want us to. We all made a friend in Dylly and that is always something beautiful, no matter how long it is allowed to last.

 

[IGuessItsOver]

I'm shocked right now, why a fellow Shantae supporter? Why him?
Dyllybirdy Even tho i didn't know him well, i've read all of his posts and he was a nice guy and a quality person overall, always comforting everyone in this thread.
May he go to heaven where he can play Smash all day.
Thank you for mantaining this place so positive, may god comfort your soul.

 

[Deleted member]

Im so sorry dylly

I wish all of this never happened at all

I’m sorry