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Shantae, the Half Genie Protector of Scuttle Town! (A Switch To A New WayForward)

Do you think shantae can make it?

  • Yes, as a fighter

  • Yes, as a assist trophy

  • No, not as a assist trophy

  • No, not at all


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AngrySun88

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I still think that Shantae would be a great candidate for DLC if she's not base roster or an assist. It would also explain WayForward's silence and out of character behavior.

If Ken and Incineroar are the last two characters in the base roster....

that is a really ****ing underwhelming way to end off the Smash reveals. An echo and the Pokemon everybody wanted you not to choose.
Agreed. That would be completely underwhelming and it would piss off the fans by giving them characters barely anyone asked for.

I don't believe Vergaben or the box theory myself, so I still think that we're getting more than two characters.
 

SoupCanMafia

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Does anyone still have reports about the Nindies Slots from the Smash Bros Blog? Are they still empty?
This is my take on the Final roster including echos
Err, I can't access it. Is it an image or an html site? Because if it's the former, no problem, just post it on Discord or something and use that url to get here. If it's html, it'll be a little bit more of a problem.
 
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SoupCanMafia

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Just imagine if Incineroar was revealed to just be another PokeBall Pokemon. That would be highly confusing to me, yet at the same time, it could give less credibility towards Verge or others who think that Incineroar's the obvious Gen 7 Pokemon.
Speaking of Pokemon, you know who would make for an epic secret boss fight? Primal Groudon, Primal Kyogre, and after defeating the two, a rematch with Rayquaza who Mega Evolves into Mega Rayquaza.
 

DOTBHDD

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There's just no way Sakurai is ending off the Pre-Ultimate hype with one character (And Incenaroar!? Really?) and one echo. Like... c'mon.
 

Geassguy

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As positive as I'd like to be, none of us can actually be certain, guys.

We don't actually KNOW. You need to be prepared for the worst, just in case. I'm not convinced by the box or vergeben either, I just think its the best thing to do.
 

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You need to be prepared for the worst, just in case.
But why? It's just a game. The worst that happens is that Sakurai's stupid and saved two un-hype characters for last.

What do people have to be prepared for since this isn't a huge deal?
 
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Geassguy

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But why? It's just a game. The worst that happens is that Sakurai's stupid and saved two un-hype characters for last.

What do people have to be prepared for? This isn't a huge deal.
Well, yeah, overall I agree. It's a matter of relativity. As far as outcomes go for Shantae in Smash goes, a relatively small thing on the grand scale of life, there is a best and worst result. But this is smashboards, we're not concerned with the bigger picture of life on here.
 

Geassguy

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This is off topic but how likely is Issac going to be in? Everyone is banking on him to be in
I think if he doesn't make the base roster, he's got a good chance at DLC if he's not an AT. I personally hope we get tons of DLC as well tho.
 

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But this is smashboards, we're not concerned with the bigger picture of life on here.
No, I mean like, why can't we just say "well **** that sucks" and move on if something bad does happen? Why do we have to downplay being hype and excited in anticipation of being disappointed because something """might""" go down.
 
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DOTBHDD

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I mean, look. The worse that happens is that we get Incenaroar and Ken. The best that happens is that we get Shantae. No matter what the outcome is, it will primarily be positive because look how ****ing glorious this roster is as it is now.

Literally the worse that could happen is that we get two more characters. That's it. And I think that's unlikely. We could get 3. We could get 5. We could get Shantae among those numbers. I wouldn't be depressed about some lame ass box theory because it's more than likely not true knowing Sakurai.

So keep your heads up. No stupid picture about a box design that may not even be final should keep us down at all.
 

Geassguy

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It's possible for him to make it in, but I don't think it's that likely. There's almost nothing pointing to his inclusion unfortunately.
To me it seems like Sakurai is trying make this a fan pleasing game, as in LONG TIME fans. Ridley and K Rool were requested for 15+ YEARS, Geno and Isaac are arguably on the same level as those two. We got the first two, I think they have a strong chance as DLC if not actual base roster.


But that's just me. I feel it would be lame to leave the Golden Sun fans with nothing 2 times in a row and still call this game "ultimate", I'd like to think Sakurai wouldn't do that.
 

Geassguy

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No, I mean like, why can't we just say "well **** that sucks" and move on if something bad does happen? Why do we have to downplay being hype and excited in anticipation of being disappointed because something """might""" go down.
I'm not trying to downplay hype, theres a big diference between hype and certainty, confusing the two never works out well.
 

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Moveset idea: what if the Monkey transformation was incorporated as her dash? You could even keep the form when jumping from it to gain greater distance and height than you normally would have, and possibly get temporarily different aerials.
 

Veodok

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I'm not trying to downplay hype, theres a big diference between hype and certainty, confusing the two never works out well.
Maybe I've misread you then. Many people on here have used "be prepared" to mean keeping hype and expectations low.
 

Parallel_Falchion

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I posted this a few pages ago, but since people have brought back worries about the boxart theory, here's the primary reason to not worry about it:
Boxarttheory.png
 

AngrySun88

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I'm almost certain that there's only two characters left.
I'm completely certain that there's more than two characters left.

This is Sakurai we're talking about, after all. The guy hates leaks more than we do. Do you really think he'd sign off on some damn box that spoils the roster amount three months before the release date?

I just don't see him ending off all of this with two characters that basically nobody is asking for while ignoring fan favorites like Geno, Issac, and Shantae.
 

Parallel_Falchion

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I'm completely certain that there's more than two characters left.

This is Sakurai we're talking about, after all. The guy hates leaks more than we do. Do you really think he'd sign off on some damn box that spoils the roster amount three months before the release date?

I just don't see him ending off all of this with two characters that basically nobody is asking for while ignoring fan favorites like Geno, Issac, and Shantae.
Sakurai doesn't have a hand in every aspect of the game's marketing. It's entirely possible he wasn't consulted specifically for this.
 
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I'm completely certain that there's more than two characters left.

This is Sakurai we're talking about, after all. The guy hates leaks more than we do. Do you really think he'd sign off on some damn box that spoils the roster amount three months before the release date?

I just don't see him ending off all of this with two characters that basically nobody is asking for while ignoring fan favorites like Geno, Issac, and Shantae.
Yeah speaking of shantae are her chances still great as of yesterday and the day after the direct?
 

SoupCanMafia

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Sakurai doesn't have a hand in every aspect of the game's marketing. It's entirely possible he wasn't consulted specifically for this.
After the ESRB leak, I'm certain that Sakurai is trying his absolute hardest to make that pipeline waterproof, no matter the cost. And being in a high position himself, he could get the Nintendo Marketing Team to make sure the box is not leaker material. Plus, the design is likely not reflective of the final product and the final reveals.
Besides, if the Miis had their own slot, we'd already hit 72 characters :p
Yeah speaking of shantae are her chances still great as of yesterday and the day after the direct?
Her chances are the same as they've always been after the 8/8 Direct and the 9/13 Direct.
 
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Sakurai doesn't have a hand in every aspect of the game's marketing. It's entirely possible he wasn't consulted specifically for this.
Oh, to be a fly on the wall when the next reveals happens. They'd be in a frenzy to get it right before launch.

>"hey, at least 4 new characters got revealed"
>"Dammit, we have to redesign the box again?? Boss-san won't be happy about this!"
 
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List of users that I took their jobs in this thread

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MoveMan1

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I'm completely certain that there's more than two characters left.

This is Sakurai we're talking about, after all. The guy hates leaks more than we do. Do you really think he'd sign off on some damn box that spoils the roster amount three months before the release date?

I just don't see him ending off all of this with two characters that basically nobody is asking for while ignoring fan favorites like Geno, Issac, and Shantae.
"Sakurai here. I heard that a lot a people said that only two characters left can't happen, so I deleted all the characters but two in order to own the leakers. Never tell me what I will or won't do again.

Also, I heard a lot of people say Pink Gold Peach would never get in, so I've replace all the characters with her and Minecraft Steve. **** you , Daisy fans, I do what I want."
 
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Even if there are more than 2 fighters there's no way Shantae's getting through Incineroar, Ken, Geno, Skull Kid, Steve, Shadow, Isaac, Dante (please no) AND Banjo. Considering that, along with the stage theory and the fact that all of the evidence we have thus far could just point to her being an Assist Trophy, I think i'm jumping ship.

 
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While we should NEVER stop fighting for Shantae, We should entertain and prepare for all possible outcomes.
 
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