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Shadow Games Mafia Over: Dgames Doomed

Jdietz43

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(Also it may have been copypasta'd from my setup for a 9 man game and I didn't think about it but shhh who's counting)
 
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#HBC | ѕoup

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Yeah hey im town

Jay why are you being so subservient out of the bat
 

JayTheUnseen

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It's just how I usually play. I haven't seen grounds for any aggressive behavior, so I responded in a mellow fashion.
 

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It's true that you usually play like that, Jay, but something about your post seemed... fabricated
 

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That's because I wasn't quite sure how to reply to a question that seemed to expect a rational answer when it was the beginning of the game, when no facts were present.
 

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Who do we lynch? Eh, it's just RVS.
I've never played with a decent number of the game's roster, so I'm stepping into new territory here.

Guess I'll just place a vote on Potassium just to talk to him.
Vote Potassium
What would you like to talk about?
 

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It probably seems weird to drop a push like that so suddenly, but I realized I must keep my credibility up:068:
 

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Vote: Zalak

By saying he just wants to get people talking shortly after making his accusation, Zalak basically tells Jay (and everyone else) that they don't need to respond to the accusation because it's baseless. He acknowledges that it seems weird to drop a push so suddenly which means he understands this, but he still makes the informed decision to worry about his appearance over getting people to talk.
 

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I had already gotten a response from Jay. Without a valid reason, I don't want to spend too much time on one person in this stage of the game.
 

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See, suddenly, you're the one letting Jay of the hook, inviting him to join your push.
 

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So I take it you were satisfied with Jay's answer?

I'm not letting Jay off the hook because I never put him on the hook to begin with.
 

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It doesn't matter. There's still a hook that you're helping him to escape. I'm not the only one who was trying to push him. And yes, I personally was satisfied by Jay's answer.
 

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Do you mean to say that by asking Jay to vote with me, I am giving him an escape route from answering questions or dealing with pressure on him?
 

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@ FullMetalLynch FullMetalLynch - What do you guys make of Kary so far?

@ adumbrodeus adumbrodeus - Where does Zalak's experience play into your opinion of his slot in the context of when you asked him?

@ JayTheUnseen JayTheUnseen - Would you say that my vote is the most factual one that's been made so far? Would you care to join me?
He's being annoying but that doesn't translate to a tell. Only one head has read so far so that might change.
 

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Vote: Zalak

By saying he just wants to get people talking shortly after making his accusation, Zalak basically tells Jay (and everyone else) that they don't need to respond to the accusation because it's baseless. He acknowledges that it seems weird to drop a push so suddenly which means he understands this, but he still makes the informed decision to worry about his appearance over getting people to talk.
... what?

:059:
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Fwiw potassium reading too far into things is characteristic of his townplay even if he needs to realize his intervention caused a rut in jay/zalak interaction which I was looking forward to

Vote: Kary
 

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What would you like to talk about?
Really, I just wanted to get some interaction between you and myself so I could get a read on you.
Vote: Zalak

By saying he just wants to get people talking shortly after making his accusation, Zalak basically tells Jay (and everyone else) that they don't need to respond to the accusation because it's baseless. He acknowledges that it seems weird to drop a push so suddenly which means he understands this, but he still makes the informed decision to worry about his appearance over getting people to talk.
It's true that he admitted the push was baseless, so by the same token it doesn't seem that anyone needs to respond to it anyway now.
I don't think it's too concerning.
@ FullMetalLynch FullMetalLynch - What do you guys make of Kary so far?

@ adumbrodeus adumbrodeus - Where does Zalak's experience play into your opinion of his slot in the context of when you asked him?

@ JayTheUnseen JayTheUnseen - Would you say that my vote is the most factual one that's been made so far? Would you care to join me?
At this point, I'm more interested in Kary, but that's probably only because he's the one who started the game up, and did so in a bold manner that caught my eye. ( That's not scum, just eye catching for me. )
So I take it you were satisfied with Jay's answer?

I'm not letting Jay off the hook because I never put him on the hook to begin with.
Yeah, I didn't feel pressured by Kantrip either-just like he asked me some stuff.
It doesn't matter. There's still a hook that you're helping him to escape. I'm not the only one who was trying to push him. And yes, I personally was satisfied by Jay's answer.
Yeah, but the push was made of two questions, from two players. It was never a big thing.

Unvote

Fwiw potassium reading too far into things is characteristic of his townplay even if he needs to realize his intervention caused a rut in jay/zalak interaction which I was looking forward to

Vote: Kary
Where did this vote come from?
 

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Ok, zalak's town.

Fwiw potassium reading too far into things is characteristic of his townplay even if he needs to realize his intervention caused a rut in jay/zalak interaction which I was looking forward to

Vote: Kary
It's actually not reading too far into things, the issue is that he's looking at mechanics over intent. Does town-kantrip do that?
 

#HBC | Gorf

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adum if i were to vouch for zalaks grasp of the game being much better than someone else who has as much experience as he does (hes played roughly 3 games) would you change your read to null?
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Ok, zalak's town.



It's actually not reading too far into things, the issue is that he's looking at mechanics over intent. Does town-kantrip do that?
I'd like to believe that any scum, including Kantrip, realize the risk of reeling a player such as Zalak in the fashion that he did. It seemed like a push gone wrong, and perhaps one he didn't necessarily have to make. Basically, I appreciate his bravado but not necessarily his actions; do you think he's just playing for appearances however? I'll say one thing to somewhat answer @ JayTheUnseen JayTheUnseen too and it's that look at Kary's posts so far and tell me if anything has been worthwhile so far. The whole interaction with Rake he had was particularly unsettling.
 

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Fwiw potassium reading too far into things is characteristic of his townplay even if he needs to realize his intervention caused a rut in jay/zalak interaction which I was looking forward to

Vote: Kary
idk that still kind of bothers me. it seems kind of hypocritical of him to come inbetween the push, and then blame me for the entire thing.
Ok, zalak's town.



It's actually not reading too far into things, the issue is that he's looking at mechanics over intent. Does town-kantrip do that?
i am not town

well i am

but like

no one should be town reading me at this point
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Okay. So it's bothers you. That's good to hear Zalak. I didn't want to speak in your place like Kantrip did a couple of posts ago because I want to believe you can make cognitive decisions on your own. I'm not asking for a thesis as to why it bothers you, but just give me a bit of a inkling of what you think Kantrip's motivations are.
 
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