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Pictochat brings many hazards in the arena, Links boat also has many hazards and the no gravity falling part is an easy Up air to death, pokemon stadium 2 has ;pw gravity time and the conveyor belts, Skyword has a hyrule temple effect, people bouncing off the platforms all over the place and not dying, and the melee stages are whatever...wow, that stage list is really really ********, if those stages are allowed at the next biweekly alot of people are gonna get own'd by stages rather than their opponent
Random Stages:
Battlefield
Final Destination
Yoshi's Island
Smashville
Lylat Cruise
Counter-Picks:
Delfino Plaza
Castle Siege
Halberd
Frigate Orpheon
Luigi's Mansion - Questionable, Campers heaven, has a mini Hyrule Temple thing going on aswell.
Norfair - Questionable , many stage hazards, regardless if they can be avoided or not, they get in the way of the match, some of the lava covers over half the screen or all of the screen at times, doesn't sound like a tournament stage to me at all.
Banned:
Everything not shown above
This is what the stage list should look like.
This seems like a perfect place to have a stage ban list discussion. There isn't an official list yet, and this is YOUR tournament. We can choose what stages we want. and most people don't want those extra stages like sky world and green greens that you put on which give HUGE advantages to some characters and HUGE disadvantages to other characters.
People can live forever by camping and teching the ceiling in the house
Skyworld's edges can be destroyed preventing people with tether recoveries from recovering. In addition, people like ike with recoveries that also attack will destroy the ledge and cannot recover. There is also the same problem that the great bay stage in melee had, where you can back throw and ricochet your opponent of some of the platforms to their death with one backthrow for some characters
It was not the singular reason for it being banned, but I've heard that camping in the cave of infinite life, the walls, and the easy ability to camp and projectile spam against slow characters all as a combined factor leading to the ban of hyrule temple.but isn't the ground on skyworld breakable?
if you're having problems KO-ing someone, break the ground first
edit: also, that's not why hyrule temple is banned in melee
Stages aren't meant to give characters an overwhelming advantage, thats why some stages are banned. Someone shouldn't get an auto win just because their character does well on a stage. That's the absolute worst argument you've put forth.
No, because temple also has walls
I don't think any arguments about balance can be taken seriously this early in the metagame. There hasn't been even close to enough to for sufficient tourney evidence to become available, let alone time for counters to or ways around "broken" tactics to develop.
It's not just Fox, it's whoever can do it better between the two characters. Also, the Cave of Life is not an appropriate skill to test in the context of the rest of the game. We say it "changes the game too much," which is why stages like 75m, and New Pork City should be banned. The hit-and-run tactic probably isn't as broken on these stages, but the skillset that is tested and the tactics that are dominant on these stages are so disjointed from the rest of the stages that it's almost a different game entirely. That isn't a rigorous argument but I wanted to be concise.
I just told you why those stages should be banned, if you're not even gonna read my comments, don't bother arguing.
