Scott Pilgrim vs. The Mafia | GAME OVER: Infinite Sadness/Finest Hour

[Xivii]

Ehm I feel like I might be relying too much on flavor here, but isn't Gideon a bad guy?

I'm a bad guy too. Don't try to approach the game on flavor.

Ran do you plan on actually playing this game like for real? Why are you voting the vengeful? Do something town-Ran.

Kevin J is fine for now. He is essential personal. You should join me in lynching PJB.

Nabe can you lay out your reasoning for your reads so far? I feel like you shouldn't really be trusting smylw. The way he is going about the game seems a little misdirected. Intentionally misdirected that is.

 

[BarDulL]

Wat.

@Mod: Request votecount

Give me insight on the claim over an RVS wagon, claiming hated is fine with me but why out this all over that?

Dispelling the caravan before it picks up full speed. Not to mention that my role is pretty useless and detrimental if I don't out it right away. I was thinking of just making my opening post "I'm Gideon, hi guys," because it's anti-town of me to just succumb to a lynch anyway. Can't take the risk of scum dog piling me early on and inadvertently causing me to explode. Plus, finals week.

 

[Kantrip]

I'm a bad guy too. Don't try to approach the game on flavor.

Ran do you plan on actually playing this game like for real? Why are you voting the vengeful? Do something town-Ran.

Kevin J is fine for now. He is essential personal. You should join me in lynching PJB.

Nabe can you lay out your reasoning for your reads so far? I feel like you shouldn't really be trusting smylw. The way he is going about the game seems a little misdirected. Intentionally misdirected that is.

Outing he's a bad guy when Bardull does is cool.

Bardull claiming is not null, I find it as a town tell. He was crumbing the role right away and then started rolling with it. I know it may not be a town role, but he was prepared and crumbing it right away, where as scum he could have kept his options open. Now that he's claimed this early, I'm calling him town.

J is the best RvS wagon, KevinM and RR are cool.

 

[soupamarioyoshiluigiwario]

unvote bardull

 

[soupamarioyoshiluigiwario]

you are so unswagless that you make J look good

DAMN SOUPAMARIO TAKE IT EASY BRO

holy **** take a piss on his familys grave while youre at it gorfDAMN son

someone hand out some bulletproof vests for all the fires bein shot in this thread right

iight so im not feelin how ****mylife went at badwolf early in the thread. he was like "hey bros lets wait for wolf to play dumb or scum" then...votes badwolf to create a situation? dafuq? isnt that totally counteractive to what you just suggested?

yo karebear dont tell me to get off your lawn i swear to gorf i come strapped with a lawnchair on anyones crib

why the **** did vinyl post a picture of barney? what does that have to do with anything?

lol @ bard retracting his town read on j after calling him town so confidently early in the game

vinyl #96: why is j town? is fml scum? why am i town?

bardull #128: bard its early in the game and your reads were all i had to judge you. ive noticed that you as scum have a tendency to just pull reads out of your ass and roll with it with little to no justification like g3s2 and enter the hardbody. j literally did nothing but talk **** to me (read: get bodied by me in argument but lets not go there anymore) and badwolf did nothing. you YOURSELF had said at the beginning of the game that he hadnt done anything but retracted that when he dropped an rvs vote. theres **** all to draw a read from with those interactions and the fact that youre using words like "he might be this might be that" made me scratch my head and ask "why is bardull even saying this **** if its so easy to go back on? how is this conducive to finding scum?" i also dont even think your initial town read of j made sense. youre saying hes quick to be lighthearted as opposed to serious but i know we both played paper mario where jscum posted in a similar matter

THAT is why i had voted you and im kinda surprised you claimed so quickly. you had like 3 votes. that said this gets to roll over cuz ive been on the streets of dgamesia enough to know that bitchass town is gonna be all "OH HIS CLAIM IS GOOD LETS NOT LYNCH HIM". one day people will learn that the only claims that mean **** are vigs and masons. until that day however i will stay swaggin regardless and this reminds me of x1 in celebrity mafia where he claimed cop and people let him get away with it despite playing like scum. **** this sites dumbass attitude towards claims

zen #137: ima answer your question later

j #139: you listed over 1/4th of the game and are saying "man its so easy to wagon these people" but nearly HALF THIS GAME is easy to wagon. kantrip is easy to wagon. bard is easy to wagon. fml is easy to wagon. badwolf is easy to wagon. vinyl is easy to wagon. pb+j is easy to wagon. i dont mean to talk **** but lets be real here and im stickin to history. thats a whack reason to dislike the wagons currently going. is there anything thats actually happening in this game that makes you dislike the wagons? who SHOULD we be wagoning?

bardull #152: dude the marshy half has barely posted. all hes done in this game was talk **** to j lol

zen #161: one of the worst posts in the game and anyone who is town should be ignoring this. j is NOT fine and you can start asking people to lynch pjb once you actually vote him. also dont be an overswarm. dont be a ryker. dont piss on my face for the sake of pull in the thread

frozenflame751: sup bro. can you do a brief analysis of bards claim and what that says of his alignment?

vote fml

 

[ranmaru]

Wanna quick lynch Badwolf?

RR, why did you ask Vinyl this question?

WOW this is AWFUL hahaha



No, no, no, no, no!


Now DIE!



OH YEAH




yes

Yo what's up with you? You seem to be trying really hard to act like Swiss, for real. What's your purpose?

Why do you want FML to die?

DAMN STRAIGHT

You know, you MIGHT have a chance if you move that vote of yours.

but choose wisely

Kary, how about you use YOUR vote to find scum rather than sit on the person random voting you
Unvote Vote: Kary

Marshy's approach to my slot feels like his play in Deadpool.

Nabe is either dumb or scum, but he won't substantiate himself because he never does.

I'm just going to out this now: I'm a vengeful hated Townie. If I die, someone dies with me of my choosing. I'm Gideon, Ramona's 7th ex and the main bad guy IIRC. If I hit L-1, I die because it takes one less vote to kill me. I'm outing because the chance that this wagon gets too out of control is plausible since I'm V/LA with finals and don't have time to stop it myself should it come to that.

You ninjad me bro.

Ew @Bardull's latest post on trying to meta what I would do as scum. I don't usually post on D1 RVS regardless of alignment because I like seeing how other people start the game there. That's just wrong meta on me as Scum. Posturing to be a critic? Just by saying I don't like the wagons? Not really.

Anyways, @marshy: The reason I say easy and boring is because just look at the wagons being talked about. Bardull, Badwolf, FML, and now I think Vinyl? All people who are super easy to push as a lynch regardless of what they actually are and just most of their posts are null because from my recollection this is how they usually post. The one I would have to say I dislike the most is Bardull due to his flip floppy on some of his reads and when he explains himself it's lackluster. The other three just feel like them normals selves, for now that is. They get easier to read as the game goes on.

J, why aren't you using your vote to pressure Bardull, or at least, why didn't you?

Outing he's a bad guy when Bardull does is cool.

Bardull claiming is not null, I find it as a town tell. He was crumbing the role right away and then started rolling with it. I know it may not be a town role, but he was prepared and crumbing it right away, where as scum he could have kept his options open. Now that he's claimed this early, I'm calling him town.

J is the best RvS wagon, KevinM and RR are cool.

Elaborate on the two.

I'm a bad guy too. Don't try to approach the game on flavor.

Ran do you plan on actually playing this game like for real? Why are you voting the vengeful? Do something town-Ran.

Kevin J is fine for now. He is essential personal. You should join me in lynching PJB.

Nabe can you lay out your reasoning for your reads so far? I feel like you shouldn't really be trusting smylw. The way he is going about the game seems a little misdirected. Intentionally misdirected that is.

I was ninjad by Bardull. When I have short posts, I just stay in the quick post mode and I didn't see it update.

 

[ranmaru]

Also:

@Zen: Why is PJB scum? I didn't even notice he was in the game until you mentioned him.

@J: Give me ONE opinion of someone you have not looked at yet.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

... ****.

We won that game right?

playing it kind of fast and loose with the word "We" here.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Marshy's approach to my slot feels like his play in Deadpool.

Nabe is either dumb or scum, but he won't substantiate himself because he never does.

I'm just going to out this now: I'm a vengeful hated Townie. If I die, someone dies with me of my choosing. I'm Gideon, Ramona's 7th ex and the main bad guy IIRC. If I hit L-1, I die because it takes one less vote to kill me. I'm outing because the chance that this wagon gets too out of control is plausible since I'm V/LA with finals and don't have time to stop it myself should it come to that.

If you die exclusively by lynch?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Zen, on the cusp of agreeing with a couple points raised, will get back to you.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Vote: Bardull

 

[Circus]

“In my head, you tell me things you’ve never said. And I choose to forget; I take the good and leave the rest.”

Vote Count
J [3]: Badwolf28738, KevinM, Red Ryu
BarDulL [3]: Nabe, Ranmaru, Kary
soupamarioyoshiluigiwario [2]: J, BarDulL
FullMetalLynch [1]: soupamarioyoshiluigiwario
frozenflame751 [1]: Vinyl.
KevinM [1]: Potassium
Vinyl. [1]: FullMetalLynch
Badwolf28738 [0]:
Kary [0]:
Red Ryu [0]:
Potassium [0]:
Ranmaru [0]:
Zen [0]:
Nabe [0]:
PrivateJoker-Brown [0]:

Not Voting: frozenflame751, PrivateJoker-Brown, Zen

With 15 players alive, 8 votes are required for lynch.

 

[KevinM]

Psssst guys I've got a hella tight wagon over here

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

playing it kind of fast and loose with the word "We" here.

I was still alive at the end. "We" is totally acceptable.

Soup & Marshy (I refuse to spell that name out) are right with a lot of their stuff in their 165, (Kinda annoyed at being called "easy" but I've accepted that as inevitable). I don't like Bardull's claim, if he's fake claiming then it puts him at L-2 forever just because we don't want to lynch a townie. If we do get to the point that we want to lynch him and the time is running out, we could result in a NL just because we don't want to put him at L-1 without a really good cause. It's scummy to me, but not scummy enough to go for him just yet.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Your overthinking things.

If bardulls lynch happens we have someone scummy put him to L-1 if bardull dies an takes them with him as town then maybe we get s scummer off it.

If bardull is bs' ing we lynch him. Preferably havin someone scummy hammer just in case

 

[Kantrip]

Oh whoops I left my joke vote on.

Vote J

FoS FML

 

[Kantrip]

Your overthinking things.

If bardulls lynch happens we have someone scummy put him to L-1 if bardull dies an takes them with him as town then maybe we get s scummer off it.

If bardull is bs' ing we lynch him. Preferably havin someone scummy hammer just in case

Eww if I wasn't helping out some bros I would totally vote you for this.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

But you have tine to throw s vote elsewhere ?

Color me unimpressed

 

[Kantrip]

The bros are Kevin and RR

 

[FullMetalLynch]

That is terrible and you should feel terrible for it.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

RR why do you want to lynch badwolf, even over J if you find J scummy?(this is more of a "why lynch badwolf question)

 

[#HBC | J]

j #139:

you listed over 1/4th of the game and are saying "man its so easy to wagon these people" but nearly HALF THIS GAME is easy to wagon. kantrip is easy to wagon. bard is easy to wagon. fml is easy to wagon. badwolf is easy to wagon. vinyl is easy to wagon. pb+j is easy to wagon. i dont mean to talk **** but lets be real here and im stickin to history. thats a whack reason to dislike the wagons currently going. is there anything thats actually happening in this game that makes you dislike the wagons? who SHOULD we be wagoning?

You literally just named the people I named and threw in Kanty and PBJ who I don't believe are easy to lynch. And you may say it's a whack reason but it's actually not. Whenever I am scum in the beginning of a game, I narrow out the people who need to be NK'd and the people you keep around to lynch for whenever. No offense to the guys I named but they usually end up sticking around with me till late game unless they rolled a PR in which they are still in the game because scary people who can lynch me>a PR I could most likely talk my way out of. At the moment, I don't have anyone who I can latch my teeth onto and say "They need to die now." and I'm not going to force a read this early in the game just to sate you at this time. I dislike Bard due to his flippy flop on me and his poor meta reasonings but that doesn't make him scummy. It just makes his posts as of late bad. The wagon that seems to have the most push and reason behind it is the FML lynch because his posts are bad and people have been pointing them out. It's different from the wagon on me which has KevinM/Ryu/Kanty who are on me, to be on me because the FML wagon has substance.

J, why aren't you using your vote to pressure Bardull, or at least, why didn't you?

Because I don't find him scummy....? I believe I've said this a few times already. I have literally just said his posts were bad but bad=/= scummy.

@J: Give me ONE opinion of someone you have not looked at yet.

Nabe's cute. I like him.

Also Kanty's hop-on onto my wagon with KevinM is grotty because he is also leaving himself the option to switch to FML but he hasn't given any real reasoning that couldn't be construed as cookie cutter on the FML or J wagon. At the moment it just looks like Kanty is trying to blend in, but that's kind of a thing he does as either alignment if I recall because he hates getting attention.

Unvote

 

[#HBC | J]

Oh I had another comment. W.r.t. Bardull's claim, I honestly find it null. I like that he outright claimed it and does give more points in his favour, but I have seen the Hated role multiple times as both a town and scum role. *shrug*

$0.02

 

[Xivii]

What in the world @ Kary's Bardull vote. Kary is scum. That long smylw is consistent with marshy scum meta.

Looking at Kary > smylw > PJB.

 

[soupamarioyoshiluigiwario]

fos zen

 

[Kantrip]

That is an interesting Zen/smylw interaction.

J: Honestly I must say your meta of me is dated (if what you said was ever accurate). I've had bad experiences with attention, but in general I try too hard to gain it. This time I've just been trying to play RVS without doing anything crazy to get us out of it like I usually do. I'm just messing around, chilling on a wagon and letting the game happen around me for once.

However, I really have no place on this wagon when I found legit scumminess from FML. So I'll switch to a more serious vote.

Vote: FML

 

[#HBC | J]

The reason I said you hated getting attention is because it usually resulted you in getting lynched. That's what I mean by that. =p

 

[Kantrip]

Fair enough. With Bardull's claim, I agree with the role itself being null. But the fact that he claimed it does bring it into a townie light, no? I'm honestly fine with Bardull right now and think FML should be looked at. Don't you think?

 

[#HBC | BadWolf]

Am I the only one who thinks Bardull's claim was bad?

 

[Xivii]

fos zen

obv scumbag is obv

 

[#HBC | J]

Fair enough. With Bardull's claim, I agree with the role itself being null. But the fact that he claimed it does bring it into a townie light, no? I'm honestly fine with Bardull right now and think FML should be looked at. Don't you think?

Kind of said that I he did get points in his favour here:

Oh I had another comment. W.r.t. Bardull's claim, I honestly find it null. I like that he outright claimed it and does give more points in his favour, but I have seen the Hated role multiple times as both a town and scum role. *shrug*

$0.02

FML is a fine choice to look at but at the current time I'm okay with being on the sidelines and looking at FML from a different angle then the way others are doing.

Am I the only one who thinks Bardull's claim was bad?

At the current time, yes. Can you explain what you feel was bad about it?

 

[Xivii]

smylw:

THAT is why i had voted you and im kinda surprised you claimed so quickly. you had like 3 votes. that said this gets to roll over cuz ive been on the streets of dgamesia enough to know that *****ass town is gonna be all "OH HIS CLAIM IS GOOD LETS NOT LYNCH HIM". one day people will learn that the only claims that mean **** are vigs and masons. until that day however i will stay swaggin regardless and this reminds me of x1 in celebrity mafia where he claimed cop and people let him get away with it despite playing like scum. **** this sites ******* attitude towards claims

Hahaha are you serious with the bold? Yeah you're scum. You're claiming you still have him as scum but ONLY unvoted him because town is going to let it pass? Yet you were the first one to unvote him after his claim while Badwolf has insisted that it makes him scummy and everyone else has insisted that it's completely null. So for one your claim that town will not lynch him just because of his claim is wrong and for two why would you not STILL TRY TO PUSH HIM IF YOU THAT HE WAS SCUM. This is such an obvious attempt to back off while keeping your "he's scum" option open. Like seriously no one is even going off his claim. I just don't even think he should have been voted in the first place. Which leads me into the next thing:

also dont be an overswarm. dont be a ryker. dont piss on my face for the sake of pull in the thread

I have no intention of doing this at all. I don't care about that crap. I genuinely do think that you are intentionally misdirecting the thread. Bardull is by far the easiest person to lynch in dgames. J was right that all the current wagons are easy people and I also agree with him that PJB and Kantrip are not included in easy targets based on experience of trying to get them lynched before. You are very good at manipulating people as scum simply by uttering the words "hbc" or getting people in your homie/non homie group. I'm only cautious.

one of the worst posts in the game and anyone who is town should be ignoring this. j is NOT fine and you can start asking people to lynch pjb once you actually vote him

J is completely null and he will remain that way until things actually get dirty. There is no substance to his wagon and pushing it is just wasting time as he isn't going to falter over some RVS pressure with nothing to back it up. For me lynching J right now is about the same chance as you or Kevin lynching each other on D1.

Ran:

@Zen: Why is PJB scum? I didn't even notice he was in the game until you mentioned him.

That's precisely the reason. This is mostly just a hunch though. There's no reason for anyone to follow me on it until there's actual evidence. I just don't like how he has only posted RVS posts rather then getting into the groove of things by his second post on page 2.

 

[Xivii]

STILL TRY TO PUSH HIM IF YOU THAT HE WAS SCUM

Correction: should be THOUGHT HE WAS SCUM

 

[soupamarioyoshiluigiwario]

zen wtf are you doing gimme a sec

 

[Xivii]

Request replacement on Frozen Flame

 

[Xivii]

soup who unvoted Bardull, you or marshy?

 

[soupamarioyoshiluigiwario]

Hahaha are you serious with the bold? Yeah you're scum. You're claiming you still have him as scum but ONLY unvoted him because town is going to let it pass? Yet you were the first one to unvote him after his claim while Badwolf has insisted that it makes him scummy and everyone else has insisted that it's completely null. So for one your claim that town will not lynch him just because of his claim is wrong and for two why would you not STILL TRY TO PUSH HIM IF YOU THAT HE WAS SCUM. This is such an obvious attempt to back off while keeping your "he's scum" option open. Like seriously no one is even going off his claim. I just don't even think he should have been voted in the first place. Which leads me into the next thing:

actually i dont know about you but we both agree that he's likely legit about his claim however it's not vindictive and letting bardull having a pass just because of his claim is bull****. i believe the point we're trying to make is that swftown will discard bardull now just because of this and he will be given a free pass. don't get your panties in a bunch. we unvoted for a reason.

I have no intention of doing this at all. I don't care about that crap. I genuinely do think that you are intentionally misdirecting the thread. Bardull is by far the easiest person to lynch in dgames. J was right that all the current wagons are easy people and I also agree with him that PJB and Kantripare not included in easy targets based on experience of trying to get them lynched before. You are very good at manipulating people as scum simply by uttering the words "hbc" or getting people in your homie/non homie group. I'm only cautious.

how does easy lynch justify not lynch worthy? scum can be easy to lynch. town can be easy to lynch. just because something is easy doesn't mean that it's WRONG. giving someone a pass because he's to easy to lynch is by far the stupidest thing you can do because then you're giving them a reason to not do anything at all. 'he's easy guys, don't bother with him.' is that what you're trying to say? j's reasoning was ****ing whack and it's just an excuse to not lay out a proper stance. there's plenty of legitimate reasons against them and ignoring those legitimate reasons is but a distraction. i don't care if you don't happen to agree with us but the least you can do is stop picking sides and look at this from an objective point of view.

J is completely null and he will remain that way until things actually get dirty. There is no substance to his wagon and pushing it is just wasting time as he isn't going to falter over some RVS pressure with nothing to back it up. For me lynching J right now is about the same chance as you or Kevinlynching each other on D1.

there is no substance? what the **** am i reading. how is there no substance? kevin seems to have some substance around it and i've sure got a feeling for him too. what, do you want everyone to just hand you the game on a silver ****ing platter? i want you to tell me why what J is doing is null, and not indicative of alignemnt. i dont see J as just J, i have to consider J as a slot. you're delving too far into meta with things and you're only going to end up being burned. J trying to pass this off was scummy and it looked like a lack of commitment, because if you want to talk meta i dont think J would be as passive as he is right now.

 

[soupamarioyoshiluigiwario]

soup who unvoted Bardull, you or marshy?

marshy but we talked a bit on skype and came to same conclusions. what's the whole deal with the color?

 

[soupamarioyoshiluigiwario]

Am I the only one who thinks Bardull's claim was bad?

if you think this you should give more reason as to why you think this.

 

[Xivii]

The colors are just something I'm doing and have nothing to do with the opening flavor.

No easy does not mean they are not scum. I just happen to have a town read on the slots you're pushing. As for J, I'm not using meta that's why he's null haha. He hasn't done anything scummy at all. Kevin is only pushing him on RVS. Like Kevin doesn't even really push people based on actual evidence anyways? What do you make of Kary's Bardull vote?