Scott Pilgrim vs. The Mafia | GAME OVER: Infinite Sadness/Finest Hour

[#HBC | Nabe]

Why are you voting Bardull, or rather, were? What's your exact read on him?
I also don't see how you are still on Zen after my response. I thought it refuted your case. Hmmmz.
I don't see what you mean with PJB. Please elaborate for this slow fellow. ;-; Even just a little.

Later, but I'll get to all of this when I'm back.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Aight i am having a ****ing nightmare trying to get on smashboardsa with a new pc. on mobile now and its like pissing caltrops.
Bardull gj with threatening me so i wont hammer you. sarcasm.
I dont care about the drama i jus want bard to explain his scumreads. Not that hard.

Nabe pretending hes useful.
Anyways i dont have anything to add. People keep ignoring me. Like kanty. And wheres kev in all this. Whatever.

Arrivederci

 

[KevinM]

Reading now, I haven't been out so much as town just pulled straight into HBC station while I was out last Day phase.

Zen
Raz

top two town reads probably just going to lazily join whatever wagon they're on.

Can we kill Bardull yet? I saw that Gova died and flipped town, also pretty awesome that Ryu piggybacked his vote onto me the entirety of D1 as a scummer. Cheers to that man.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Bard, how do you know what you think you know about me?

 

[KevinM]

Does everyone have Kantplay on ignore or are we just blatantly ignoring his wagon hopping on D3?

 

[Kantrip]

Even I have Kantplay on ignore.

The wagon hopping is null because it was obviously for pressure based on the fact he's unvoting and getting off the wagon before it gets to a lynch. Just feeling my way around and helping people out until I finish my read.

 

[Xivii]

There was no abduction. Come on, you're not this dense.

Doesn't matter. You're still indy lovers.

 

[Xivii]

Unvote
Time for player responses~

 

[Xivii]

Bard, how do you know what you think you know about me?

 

[Xivii]

I thought of a way to completely confirm or completely disprove my theory, but it kind of takes the fun out of it imo so I wont say anything. Plus I already ruined one of Jerkus' setups before.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

play 2 win

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

I thought of a way to completely confirm or completely disprove my theory, but it kind of takes the fun out of it imo so I wont say anything. Plus I already ruined one of Jerkus' setups before.

 

[ranmaru]

Nabe, you going to deliver?

Also, gonna be vla, going to hospital to check out my right jaw or w/e the **** it is that makes it hard for me to chew. Get sudden pains.

 

[ranmaru]

Vote: bardull

 

[Xivii]

Raz, Vin, Kev you mind voting Bardull?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Why are you voting Bardull, or rather, were? What's your exact read on him?
I also don't see how you are still on Zen after my response. I thought it refuted your case. Hmmmz.
I don't see what you mean with PJB. Please elaborate for this slow fellow. ;-; Even just a little.

- Bard has been a question mark to me, his posts are bad, his being gone would be good, and him shooting someone would still be good. Thought he was flatly scum D1, but he's not partnered with Marsh/Ryu -- that said, my wanting him gone overpowers that. It's also a convenience thing, given that Zen isn't dropping his what-can-only-be-a-really-bad-bluff indy lovers(?) read. But Bardull's chance of flipping mafia is next to zero, so I'm conflicted on this front.

- You took elements of my phrasing apart from their meaning. I could elaborate but it really, really won't matter toMorrow.

- PJB's every post is inane garbage, and most are bordering scummy if not fully immigrated. He counters arguments against him by saying "this is bad" or by pointing out aspects that don't matter (hypocrisy, phrasing), and in doing so sidesteps the larger points. He doesn't push anything, choosing instead to take potshots through a narrow lens of the thread, and posting commentary on current events without any body. I'm not going to elaborate on this with individual examples, but may indulge in it when I feel like spelling out a trivial thing. I want him dead so that, when I scroll down the page, his name doesn't have to cross my vision even one more time.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

When did I counter an argument made against me by saying "this is bad"? That's not a thing that happened. I don't push anything? Also false, I did tons of pushing on D1.

Your case against me is simply untrue, and the fact that you're too lazy to substantiate it by providing evidence isn't doing you any favors.

 

[Kantrip]

@Nabe: Why is Bardull's chance of flipping mafia really low if you find him really scummy? Could there not be multiple teams??

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

When did I counter an argument made against me by saying "this is bad"? That's not a thing that happened.

Your whole argument for wanting to push me is bad, and you should feel bad.

...

Also false, I did tons of pushing on D1.

On D1. Meaning you're not scumhunting right now?

Your case against me is simply untrue, and the fact that you're too lazy to substantiate it by providing evidence isn't doing you any favors.

where da proofs at nabs



I looooooove the phrasing. "Your case is untrue." What case? Ran asked me a question, I gave him a response, and PJB jumps on me like a rabid dog?

I'm not voting him, I'm not targeting him, I'm filling Ran in on a read. But if you were to only read his post, you would get the impression I'm wagoning him. This is called "being defensive", and is a plain example of PJB playing reactively rather than proactively.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

@Nabe: Why is Bardull's chance of flipping mafia really low if you find him really scummy? Could there not be multiple teams??

A flipped faction is called 'mafia' and he's plainly not a part of that faction. He could still be scum, solo or factional, and coupled with shooting another player on townflip that's enough for me, but he's not mafia.

(Addendum: I don't think there's another faction anyway given that there's nothing to indicate as much in deaths or setup spec or Circus spec.)

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Bard if you step in I'd also like to know what you think of Vitamin K, laters

 

[#HBC | Joker]

...

I like how you cut out the rest of this post, where I talked about why it was bad. Nah Nabe, go ahead and strawman me. It's cool.

On D1. Meaning you're not scumhunting right now?

I'm trying to scumhunt, but I'm not in a hurry to lead any pushes. My D1 push resulted in a mislynch, why would I be in a hurry to lead the town down the wrong path, once again?

where da proofs at nabs

where, indeed?

I looooooove the phrasing. "Your case is untrue." What case? Ran asked me a question, I gave him a response, and PJB jumps on me like a rabid dog?

I'm not voting him, I'm not targeting him, I'm filling Ran in on a read. But if you were to only read his post, you would get the impression I'm wagoning him. This is called "being defensive", and is a plain example of PJB playing reactively rather than proactively.

You literally used the phrase "I want him dead", in your post. You may not be voting me, but it's clear what your intentions are wrt my slot. They are not a mystery. Just because you're not trying to wagon me at this very moment means nothing to me, because the fact remains that a wagon on me would not currently go through. It would be a waste of time. You know this, and posts calling for my head reek of fishing. You wouldn't hesitate to jump your vote right back on me if a PJB wagon was a viable option, yet you claim you aren't actually pushing for it. How come? You want me dead, yes? Is it not because I'm scum? If I'm not scum, then why the hell aren't you pushing for a wagon on me? I mean, I'm scummy because I'm not pushing anything anymore, right? What about you?

 

[Circus]

“You know you have a permanent piece of my medium-sized, American heart.”

Vote Count
BarDulL [3]: Zen, PrivateJoker-Brown, Ranmaru
Kary [1]: BarDulL
Zen [0]:
PrivateJoker-Brown [0]:
Raziek [0]:
Vinyl. [0]:
KevinM [0]:
Potassium [0]:
Ranmaru [0]:
Nabe [0]:

Not Voting: Raziek, Vinyl., Kary, KevinM, Nabe, Potassium

With 10 players alive, 6 votes are required for lynch.

Raziek has been prodded.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

If I'm not scum, then why the hell aren't you pushing for a wagon on me?

Just noticed this typo, should read

If I'm scum, then why the hell aren't you pushing for a wagon on me?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Lol, Bard keeps calling me a distractions, yet he's manged to make almost half of the game about himself. Talk about distracting.

Your whole argument for wanting to push me is bad, and you should feel bad.

Why are Kary and Kev good directions for today, Bard? You say you want to lead the town, but you can't even answer this simple question. All you wanna do is make threats, and try to take thread control.

What post is this last paragraph in reference to?

You literally used the phrase "I want him dead", in your post. You may not be voting me, but it's clear what your intentions are wrt my slot. They are not a mystery.

It's clear that my intentions aren't lynching you (given the post's context of answering a question, and given that I said "I want him dead so that I won't have to see him" which throws any faith out the window in a case I would make on you) but to answer a question posed to me by another player.

Just because you're not trying to wagon me at this very moment means nothing to me, because the fact remains that a wagon on me would not currently go through. It would be a waste of time. You know this, and posts calling for my head reek of fishing. You wouldn't hesitate to jump your vote right back on me if a PJB wagon was a viable option, yet you claim you aren't actually pushing for it. How come? You want me dead, yes? Is it not because I'm scum? If I'm scum, then why the hell aren't you pushing for a wagon on me?

K.

I mean, I'm scummy because I'm not pushing anything anymore, right? What about you?

Me being guilty of an aspect of your play doesn't make my read wrong, it just makes me not brownie. Are you trying to convince me that you're town? Your tone doesn't match that function, but your posts are addressed to me.

Who's scum?

 

[Circus]

Vinyl. has been prod-prod-prodded.

 

[Vinylic.]

I assume that was my last warning, so I'm not gonna be late for this again.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

MAYBE YOU COULD STOP LURKING AND DO SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Vinyl who do you want to lynch toDay?

 

[Xivii]

Vinyl

Vinyl.
1. Could Ryu not have been bussing you?
2. Why do you think we should go for Nabe first? Bardull has actually done scummy things where as Nabe is circumstantial (on Bardull being scum). Although it is possible that I have their roles switched (Nabe being recruiter) I think it's more likely that Bardull has the priority role here. I think they will both likely die upon Bardull being lynched. Though it could be possible that both will die regardless. Still Bardull is the way to go.

(lol @ Kary doing the pot kettle thing)

 

[Xivii]

Nabe I'm gonna hurt you lmao

 

[KevinM]

Vote Bardull

Best lynch for us today.

Bardull should then proceed to shoot PJB IMO but I would be comfortable with him shooting Kary also.

 

[KevinM]

Actually shoot Vinyl wtf am I thinking

 

[#HBC | Kary]

^ except i'm not blatantly prod-dodging/coasting like vinyl is.


anyways. my position right now is this. we have 4 days, and 2-3 scum to find.

Right now I want to lynch Kantrip or Bardull toDay.

I would settle for Vinyl or maybe KevinM.

Everyone else i'm townreading.

My biggest sticking point right now is Kantrip.
I've asked him two or three times to elaborate on his stances and he just hasn't. But it's not just that he won't clear up his stances. I've not seen him pushing anything either. In fact all I have seen him do so far this game is to hop pretty much every waggon that came by his door. I mean, hell, he voted PJB for pressure toDay despite having him as a clear townread from D1. If I'd seen him doing anything I considered looking for scum then I might not be worried about his slot. But as it is I can afford to lose him, no problem.

The difference between Bardull and Kantrip? I can see Bardull being town.

I'm still iffy about keeping Bardull around, not least because of his claim, and what I see as problems with his play (example; flip-flopping on how much he cares about the game. pushing for thread power rather than explaining his scum picks). But I can probably deal with him being alive tomorrow.

Kevin/Vinyl are essentially null to me. I should probably re-read all 20 of their posts but I don't recall anything telling.

Vote: Kantrip

 

[Vinylic.]

Art 2 class ended, so the free time is happening now.

Vinyl who do you want to lynch toDay?

Second thoughts say kantrip, but if you guys want me to vote bar, then w/e.

Vinyl

*quota*

(lol @ Kary doing the pot kettle thing)

1. I assume so. Ryu's mention of how I'm scummy was generally "He's more productive when town, and not as much when he's scum." That post was raunchy, because I'm completely random at times and people actually prefer to shoot me or cop me and wait for the flip. There's also a part where they'd more likely ask me questions on what I think, and demand reads from me, not essentially calling me out like ryu did. The shooter made the right call, haha.

2. Bardull makes dumb mistakes...... 60 percent of the time, he does it every time. I just think of that because I play with this guy almost every game, and his confidence has me in a tense moment where I can't decide who to vote, like that one game where I had the decision to vote on him and that guy with the weird link face as his avatar. I'm not trying to defend him though, I'm just saying this because I don't like seeing the mistakes I'll make when I vote or hammer. Here's the question for you though. Out of every game, what do you think bardull does when in game with him and others? Does it lead to a successful lynch or miss most of the time? Am I stupid for saying this? Just saying, because I need to know more from him so I can clarify.

I'd like to note kevin's post on voting bardull and then saying that bardull should shoot pjb, kary, then me. I don't get it, did bardull claim? I'm gonna have to look back.
Still, lol @ kev. By now, kary's just gonna assume that he can't read me either, but who knows. I just wanna see how this will all work out if you're ending the day with bar's lynch.

So, for the day, I'll vote for bar if you guys want.
For my honesty on what I want to vote, It'd be kantrip. Kind of being the same as ryu and giving out about ryu and connections after his death had me eager to get him out of here with that nonsense, which isn't, really. But still.

 

[BarDulL]

Someone hammer, I'll shoot either Kev or Kary.

 

[BarDulL]

Actually, people should vote on who I shoot between the two before I'm hammered.

 

[BarDulL]

Nabe is also a plausible option, but less preferred. Do not let Nabe into end game.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

I hate to put ideas in your head Bardull, but if you wanted to die and shoot someone you could hammer yourself.

I don't really get why you're giving up, though.

Don't really understand why you would ask town to choose between your two picks, either. Why not shoot Vinyl for instance?

I mean, you definitely shouldn't shoot me but that goes without saying really.
If i'm scum and you're town I've been antagonizing you ever since your claim, which seems kinda dumb on my part. but whatever.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

...I mean, if you're gonna die i'd have you shoot Kanty. But I gather you're townreading him.