SBR Weekly character Discussion: Ike

[SaltyKracka]

It depends on which character you're fighting

If you use Up + B against Peach, you will get destroyed

This is an incredibly silly idea but does anyone ever purposely got in the way of Ike when he's recovering with his Side B to soak up the hit and let him plummet to his doom? I accidently do it from time to time...I can't imagine it being a very practical idea since Ike could just release his Side B before you

I can't tell whether you're trying to be funny, or if this is just incredibly sad.

 

[M@v]

It depends on which character you're fighting

If you use Up + B against Peach, you will get destroyed

This is an incredibly silly idea but does anyone ever purposely got in the way of Ike when he's recovering with his Side B to soak up the hit and let him plummet to his doom? I accidently do it from time to time...I can't imagine it being a very practical idea since Ike could just release his Side B before you

Ive done it before. It all depended on the situation.

 

[Mith_]

We like Ike.

I must admit I always underestimate Ike and try to gimp his Up+B and always end up getting owned.
Over+B is a joke to gimp though .

 

[HeroMystic]

UpB is much harder to gimp than QD. Some character can gimp him very easy but everyone can gimp QD very easy.

Good point, but Aether still kinda sucks for it's purposes.

 

[Talvi]

So he really fights for his friends.

 

[mimic_king]

Did anybody find the bonus page?

 

[UnSaxon51]

Aether is way harder to gimp than QD.

I have a video of Ike going through a Warlock Punch while recovering... twice.

 

[YagamiLight]

The analysis was pretty much spot on, though pretty much every character would like to counterpick eventually.

Except, of course,

and to a lesser degree

 

[Ignatius]

I think the point was, that Ike is more prone than average to having to counterpick.

 

[SaltyKracka]

I think the point was, that Ike is more prone than average to having to counterpick.

Myeh, he's mid tier. It's not exactly like everybody lower than him doesn't have to counterpick at all.

 

[M15t3R E]

An Ike who is godly at spacing with his sword can be quite a pain, while Ike users who suck at spacing are easy as hell to defeat.

 

[XACE-K]

An Ike who is godly at spacing with his sword can be quite a pain, while Ike users who suck at spacing are easy as hell to defeat.

True. That's what most (good) Ikes do anyways. The only time we'll ever go in close to the opponent is to jab/jab cancel/ whatever.

Now it's time for me to read this thread.

Edit: Nice to know that the SBR knows what they're talking about concerning Ike.

 

[mimic_king]

If used with great timing, Ike can beat Meta Knight. You know he can.

 

[Rickerdy-doo-da-day]

I can't tell whether you're trying to be funny, or if this is just incredibly sad.

Neither. I was curious if anyone has done it before

If you get hit by his Side B, it stops him in his tracks, thus preventing his recovery. It's an incredibly daft idea but it does happen from time to time. I've gimped an Ike before because he just grazed me with his Side B whilst I was Floating near him in an attempt to KO him, causing him to plummet to his doom

 

[XACE-K]

If used with great timing, Ike can beat Meta Knight. You know he can.

Great timing helps but playing smart will also help Ike. But a good MK will always beat an Ike and vice versa.

Edit @ Rickerdy: That's why Ike's don't QD to recover. We've been using only Aether since April.

 

[Dyyne]

I think the point was, that Ike is more prone than average to having to counterpick.

Myeh, he's mid tier. It's not exactly like everybody lower than him doesn't have to counterpick at all.

I thought the point was that Ike is more prone to actually being a counterpick than being a main who needs otehr counterpicks.

 

[Kinzer]

Incoming wall of text.

He's manly.

Yes.

He fights for his friends.

Yes.

I've discovered that Ike is ridiculously fun. And his Fair is soooo awesome.

Yes.

Agreed. I vote for Ike in Brawl+.

I wouldn't know.

It must feel nice to fsmash a Meta Knight with Ike.

Like, really nice.

Yes it does.

this thread needs more charge fsmash.

This thread needs more Gimpy Boozer FSmash.

ike is the best in teams because he fights for his friends

IT'S SO OBVIOUS.

What he said.

Ike and Zelda would have ridiculously good looking kids

amirite?

Hell to the no.

Glad to see that me maining two different people is justified with Ike being the better CP guy.

 

[comboking]

QD sucks
there's a good post MODS

 

[Rykoshet]

QD sucks
there's a good post MODS

Guess what? You're wrong, and I don't mean about QD sucking. You still fail as a general human being.

 

[XZA143]

Lolol

Ike is another one of those characters where people assume 'Oh he's slow and heavy so he must be ****' characters to begin with - you can't fully appreciate him until you actually fight a good one. Dam I hate his jab. And his Fair. That thing is far too long for it's own good. Ike's D Tilt spike is one of those moves where you /facepalm yourself if you get spiked to a painful death, thinking 'How the hell did I manage to get hit by that!?!'

Shame is recovery sucks

Toad >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ike's recovery

Unfortunately this seems true for quite a large number of people (in my experience). Yes generally speaking he is slow, but his weight can be a positive at times. Its possible to get by the Toad recovery with some consistency, but its hard to prove over Wifi It really comes down to timing, though.

As for Ike's play concerning recovering, you need to play smart. Yes this is obvious for everyone, but more crucial in Ike's case due to his lack of quality recovery options. He is going to have to be dominant on stage(generally speaking) so by the time he loses a stock through gimp/knocked into dead zone/etc... enough damage has been done to give him a fighting chance. Does he have the tools to be dominant? Yes, but depend too much on reading and prediction to be successful. In my opinion at least

 

[comboking]

just ignore this post

 

[comboking]

Guess what? You're wrong, and I don't mean about QD sucking. You still fail as a general human being.

Touche
THE MODS SHOULD JUST CHANGE THE NAME OF THIS THREAD TO THE IKE SPAM THREAD
(Roy boards reference)

 

[XACE-K]

Unfortunately this seems true for quite a large number of people (in my experience). Yes generally speaking he is slow, but his weight can be a positive at times. Its possible to get by the Toad recovery with some consistency, but its hard to prove over Wifi It really comes down to timing, though.

Agreed.

As for Ike's play concerning recovering, you need to play smart. Yes this is obvious for everyone, but more crucial in Ike's case due to his lack of quality recovery options. He is going to have to be dominant on stage(generally speaking) so by the time he loses a stock through gimp/knocked into dead zone/etc... enough damage has been done to give him a fighting chance. Does he have the tools to be dominant? Yes, but depend too much on reading and prediction to be successful. In my opinion at least

To absolutely dominate, you should play smart no matter what character you are. For Ike, you should always do this against his worst match-ups. Reading and predicting your opponent will help you in beating them.

Touche
THE MODS SHOULD JUST CHANGE THE NAME OF THIS THREAD TO THE IKE SPAM THREAD
(Roy boards reference)

You do realize you are spamming?

 

[comboking]

You do realize you are spamming?

I was just haveing fun. The MODS were spamming too

 

[Rykoshet]

... you're such an incredible idiot I don't even know how to express it in the English language anymore.

 

[Metro Knight]

Ike is easy to play and not be put to shame. But, I dunno if it is easy to beat a player of equal skill level who is using a different character. Like Wolf and Link do really well versus Ike, and me and my brother shut down my friends who use Ike. Ike is so epic in teams, I love spiking 2 people with his spike.

 

[XACE-K]

Ike is easy to play and not be put to shame. But, I dunno if it is easy to beat a player of equal skill level who is using a different character. Like Wolf and Link do really well versus Ike, and me and my brother shut down my friends who use Ike. Ike is so epic in teams, I love spiking 2 people with his spike.

Wolf and Link don't do really well vs Ike. They have the advantage but they don't own him as hard as Oli, Falco or D3. It could be that your friends who play don't do well against Wolf and Link, you know the match-up well or other factors.

 

[YagamiLight]

Wolf and Link don't do really well vs Ike. They have the advantage but they don't own him as hard as Oli, Falco or D3. It could be that your friends who play don't do well against Wolf and Link, you know the match-up well or other factors.

Well, the Link boards actually said Link was evenish, to be honest.

 

[comboking]

... you're such an incredible idiot I don't even know how to express it in the English language anymore.

Tuche
don't use english then

 

[XZA143]

Agreed.



To absolutely dominate, you should play smart no matter what character you are. For Ike, you should always do this against his worst match-ups. Reading and predicting your opponent will help you in beating them.



You do realize you are spamming?

I concur Xace, you should be playing smart period. I guess what I was getting at is this is Ike and he can't afford to make mistakes or take risks like a Meta Knight could, for example. But in turn your opponent can't afford to make mistakes or take too many risks as well, thus you have a high-risk/high-reward factor integrated into the character.

I believe this is essentially what people find enjoyable about Ike. Your reward for reading/predicting/etc... your opponent is a blatant, obvious, thunderous Fsmash(but it doesn't have to be) for an instant minus 1 stock. Thats not even including that fact that because of his tier status(for those that care) you get bragging rights(think the typical 'I beat you with a character thats not even good' type reasoning).

Of course how each person enjoys a character and for what reason are definitely subjective. Personally I knew I would be playing as him because I enjoyed his games.

 

[Rykoshet]

Tuche
don't use english then

You missed an O, like in me calling you a ******** douche.

 

[mimic_king]

I think he did that on purpose to show that you can't express it in the English language. Unless a ******** doosh he reely iz.

 

[Overswarm]

You missed an O, like in me calling you a ******** douche.

Touché.

ALT 130'D!

 

[XACE-K]

Well, the Link boards actually said Link was evenish, to be honest.

I thought they had a slight adavantage like 55-45.

I concur Xace, you should be playing smart period. I guess what I was getting at is this is Ike and he can't afford to make mistakes or take risks like a Meta Knight could, for example. But in turn your opponent can't afford to make mistakes or take too many risks as well, thus you have a high-risk/high-reward factor integrated into the character.

True

I believe this is essentially what people find enjoyable about Ike. Your reward for reading/predicting/etc... your opponent is a blatant, obvious, thunderous Fsmash(but it doesn't have to be) for an instant minus 1 stock. Thats not even including that fact that because of his tier status(for those that care) you get bragging rights(think the typical 'I beat you with a character thats not even good' type reasoning).

Also true. Owning somebody with Ike always makes me laugh.

 

[comboking]

Touché.

ALT 130'D!

what r u saying please explain
Hey OS can I make fun of Rykoshit

 

[mimic_king]

Watching someone getting owned by an Ike either makes me laugh or cry at their stupidity.

 

[Arturito_Burrito]

I think that is evenish as it isn't really even just ish.

 

[Mith_]

Man I played with Ike today and he is friggin amazing.
That sword...just so...amazing.
Mario owns him though =[

 

[Kinzer]

Marty-O only has a 55-45 advantage on Ike.

 

[YagamiLight]

Marty-O only has a 55-45 advantage on Ike.

Wait what? No he doesn't!

That's the claim of the Mario boards.