Santa Barbara / San Luis Obispo Smash: Smash Club this Tuesday at HFH @ 8 pm

[Crackle]

Alright guys, as much as I enjoy a good flame war, this is getting a bit ridiculous and has just devolved into name calling.

Joe: I deplore brawl as much as you but it's better to just not say bad things about it in front of brawl players because they take it personally.

John: I think it's a little hypocritical to call people immature and then threaten to ban them from smash club. If you have a beef with someone settle it with them personally don't just try to spite them.

It wasn't for spite. It was a warning that if it happened again it's worthy of release from the club. How would you feel if you were a freshman that thought the Melee players were daunting, but wanted to play them anyway, only to find out they refuse to play you for 30 minutes straight until you give up trying?

You would feel like telling everyone that the smash community isn't worthwhile. That's the opposite of what club should be doing. It only makes sense to ban people if they are ultimately banning other people with their attitude.

If the argument was more direct and didn't become a flame war because of dik size comparison, it would have been me saying "warning" and helmet saying "okay". The fact that he didn't take responsibility for his actions made it into a flame war. Because getting someone to say "won't happen again" is hard to do online apparently. Next time I"ll be sure to say it in person.

And to be honest I do feel like the Melee part of club is very "exclusive".

In my opinion club didn't exist this year. A group of 8 guys who play melee just played in a different location than usual.
No setups were provided, nor people invited, for an actual club to take part.

 

[DanteFox]

And to be honest I do feel like the Melee part of club is very "exclusive".

In my opinion club didn't exist this year. A group of 8 guys who play melee just played in a different location than usual.

We are what you make of us. Every new player that has joined us for play has been welcomed with open arms and smiling faces. We're always very courteous to new players. I don't approve of what Joe did to you but it definitely is not representative of how we treat non-melee players as a whole.

We're only seen as exclusive because the nature of the game is very unforgiving at the level at which we play. Even veterans in our circle get frustrated sometimes. Why just the other day Anthony was ****** my face off and it felt bad, but I didn't quit. The fact that you quit because of a perceived difficult matchup only speaks to your character, not the group itself.

Ultimately we can't make people play melee, we can only invite them and encourage them to play.

No setups were provided, nor people invited, for an actual club to take part.

woah woah WOAH

How can you say something like this when you only attended maybe two of our dozens of meeting this year? And when you did you didn't contribute anything in the way of setups or gear of value.

David C. worked his butt off in order to make club happen, and david m., joe, and others like andrej and I contributed setups as well. Joe bought pizza and shared with others. Anthony graced us with a taste of his delicious sushi.

To say otherwise is outright stupidity.

 

[$heen]

Dante enters the fray.

 

[CableCho57]

speaking of newcomers, this past tourney showed some new faces (joeys friends) and we were chillin, playing melee and having an awesome time. And those other 3 dudes too (sheik, marth and fox players, I think one was named marty?) came and they seemed to be enjoying themselves at our tourney. Our melee community goes the effort to makes things happen. you shouldnt be upset at us for your brawl community not doing the same. You guys probably couldve even ran a brawl tourney at the recent LAN party, but noone stepped up.

well thats my two cents. we playin this weekend? and dante I saw those friendlies of you vs anthony. shoot son is was like scar vs ss when scar officially came to norcal and got WRECKED! (you were scar in this scenario btw lol. even the colors matched up =D) anthony was on point! so many **** combos..

 

[Crackle]

I don't approve of what Joe did to you but it definitely is not representative of how we treat non-melee players as a whole.

The fact that you quit because of a perceived difficult matchup only speaks to your character, not the group itself.

How can you say something like this when you only attended maybe two of our dozens of meeting this year? And when you did you didn't contribute anything in the way of setups or gear of value.

You obviously have a problem with me for insulting my character for no reason.
I quit Melee because I moved on to Brawl. If I had more time on my hands, and enjoyed Melee, I'd play it.

I attended few meetings because I resigned as the publicity, and knew without my publicity NO ONE WAS ATTENDING.
The few times I came were after I suggested to David that he advertise and thought he might of.

My wii was the only wii present at every meeting.
AND I PHYSICALLY GAVE MY WII TO DAVID FOR THE YEAR FOR CLUB.
I also made, printed and distributed ads to all res halls overnight for the Brawl tournament David said he wanted to run.
This did bring attendance, all of which was turned down because David was too busy.
If there was anything else I could do for club that would make an impact, I would have.

So Dante is there anything you said that wasn't completely wrong? Or do you and Helmet agree to backtalk me and think of something new.

I'd much rather have this discussion in person. Because it's a lot harder to address the 0 valid points you guys have made online, where walls of text can easily be ignored.

 

[DanteFox]

You obviously have a problem with me for insulting my character for no reason.
I quit Melee because I moved on to Brawl. If I had more time on my hands, and enjoyed Melee, I'd play it.

If you enjoyed melee you would play it alongside brawl. You just said that you don't enjoy melee because the metagame has moved on. This has everything to do with you and nothing to do with the community.

I attended few meetings because I resigned as the publicity, and knew without my publicity NO ONE WAS ATTENDING.
The few times I came were after I suggested to David that he advertise and thought he might of.

My wii was the only wii present at every meeting.

maybe the only wii present for brawl. There were plenty of setups for melee. Again, this has nothing to do with us. The brawl community is notoriously bad at providing setups. This is fact.

AND I PHYSICALLY GAVE MY WII TO DAVID FOR THE YEAR FOR CLUB.
I also made, printed and distributed ads to all res halls overnight for the Brawl tournament David said he wanted to run.
This did bring attendance, all of which was turned down because David was too busy.
If there was anything else I could do for club that would make an impact, I would have.

That's nice. Doesn't change the fact that everything you said was, at best, either misinformed or, at worst, an outright lie. Either that or smash club to you consists of only brawl. If that's the case, then yeah, it's pretty much dead.

cute stuff

I don't really feel like it if you're gonna be this antagonistic and defensive in person.

 

[DrAwesome]

So are we playing tomorrow?

 

[DanteFox]

yes as long as the room's open like last quarter. =)

 

[DrAwesome]

so be there at 6?

 

[DanteFox]

5 =]

^____^

 

[Crackle]

I'm defending myself from false statements....

How about this:
Dante and Helmet, since that seems like the opposing team here...

Bullet point list what you are trying to say and I'll address every point honestly.
You can also address my points.

I'll do the same:
1) Helmet: I warned you for not letting people play on your TV without explanation.
2) Dante: I did a lot for club and am a busy guy.
3) That's as simple as my argument intended to be. Flame wars tend to fog things, however.

Perhaps there will be a resolution this way, rather than random statements that are hard to sort through but easy to complain about.

 

[DanteFox]

I'm defending myself from false statements....

How about this:
Dante and Helmet, since that seems like the opposing team here...

There are no "teams." You're just being really defensive.

Bullet point list what you are trying to say and I'll address every point honestly.
You can also address my points.

I'll do the same:

2) Dante: I did a lot for club and am a busy guy.

Everyone's done a lot for club, and everyone's busy. You're not special in this regard. Andrej and Huy are Chem majors too. I'm a Mech. Engineering major. I took issue with you making it seem like without you, there was no club, which is not the case. Especially since you've only attended like two of club meetings in the entire year.

 

[CableCho57]

dante how bad are you gonna procrastinate? lol I really want to play right now

 

[DanteFox]

sorry dude my parents are forcing me to study right now. Practice some tech skill instead.

Here I'll even give you a checklist lol. Try to get these down fairly consistently:

1) The Lucky/Mango drill shine challenge. Go into training mode as fox against a peach. Put the cp movement mode into "attack." Drill shine the peach against the wall and try to get the consecutive hit meter to 100.

2)Try to get the isai drop lasers down with falco. You know, the thing shiz does where he lasers while jumping in the air and when he lands on a platform he drops down immediately with another laser. Do this by pressing forward on the analog stick immediately after landing, and immediately after pressing forward, press down and you'll drop through, then just laser again.

3) Shine out of shield as close to the ground as possible. You can do this either with the jump button or with c-stick up to down b with the analog stick

4) As a follow up to number 3, shine oos and do a waveshine immediately after.

5)You could also work on wavedashing out of shield immediately after you get hit by an attack. Mango uses this to great effect in his set against lucky.

 

[Pink Reaper]

Dante has no idea what an Isai Drop is apparently

 

[DanteFox]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMxgGtMLEfw

 

[CableCho57]

maybe ill try it sometime but I really want to play with people. thanks for tips though

and I just realized genesis is happening during summer school for me =(

 

[Crackle]

I took issue with you making it seem like without you, there was no club, which is not the case. Especially since you've only attended like two of club meetings in the entire year.

I will take that as your point.

If you kept tabs on what I've done for club you'd have a right to tell me how much I've done. Managing club is a bigger scope than attendance itself, which is all you can monitor from me. The point is moot from your perspective.

 

[DanteFox]

I will take that as your point.

If you kept tabs on what I've done for club you'd have a right to tell me how much I've done. Managing club is a bigger scope than attendance itself, which is all you can monitor from me. The point is moot from your perspective.

And I'll take that as a cop out. All you're doing is trying to deflect any criticism and you're not addressing the points that anyone's making. It seems your mind was made up long before you tried to rationalize it in your posts.

 

[Crackle]

Okay. Assuming you are correct, for sake of argument.

And in keeping with what I stated earlier, that I would listen and address your points:

What is/are your point(s)?

 

[DanteFox]

Okay. Assuming you are correct, for sake of argument.

And in keeping with what I stated earlier, that I would listen and address your points:

What is/are your point(s)?

I took issue with you making it seem like without you, there was no club, which is not the case. Especially since you've only attended like two of club meetings in the entire year.

Just like I can't speak to how much you've done, you can't speak to how much anyone else has done.

Anyway this is getting really tired. This thread has been derailed enough.

 

[Crackle]

Just like I can't speak to how much you've done, you can't speak to how much anyone else has done.

Anyway this is getting really tired. This thread has been derailed enough.

If your point was that without me club would still exist....and you just said in the same statement that you can't judge.....you are in one hell of a loop there buddy.

I think you came in for the sake of argument because you don't like me. If that's that, move on. You don't know me.

 

[joejoe22802]

Caleb you trying to play tomorrow?

 

[Crackle]

Does anyone play 64 and have free time in the next day or so?
:D I've been playing that a lot lately.

 

[CableCho57]

Stupid smashboards going under maintenance. I hella wouldve been down to play joey haha

And I can't play this weekend dudes, my sister is visiting from sf

 

[joejoe22802]

Im down to play today if you're up.

 

[DanteFox]

i am too =]

 

[joejoe22802]

Dante you up to come to ft?

 

[DanteFox]

sure let me know what room or w/e.

you have a crt tv now right?

 

[joejoe22802]

check your pms

 

[Master_Helmet]

i thought there was smash today

 

[CableCho57]

Yeah give andrej a call. I unforttnately cant go, so youre lucky i wont be there to four stock you joe

 

[DrAwesome]

Hey so Im back for summer school. We should play this week!

 

[Master_Helmet]

agreed

when and where

 

[DanteFox]

when are yall free?

Both you guys flaked out last week so it'd be great to know beforehand so we can have the biggest group possible.

 

[CableCho57]

yeah we've got to play with davidm as much as we can before he leaves for good!

i'm free saturday night(like pretty late).

also, as far as I can tell, i'm pretty sure we can use that club room at sbcc during school hours

 

[DrAwesome]

yeah we've got to play with davidm as much as we can before he leaves for good!

<3


Late Saturday seems good unless the GF comes to visit (I doubt it though)

I only have class from 11 to 2 Monday through Thursday so I'm free pretty much any other time.

When is the room at SBCC open?

 

[DrAwesome]

Ok so I am thinking of hosting tomorrow. I dont seem to have a roommate yet so I should have plenty of room. Ill host if people are down to play.

I am free after two if you guys want to come by then. The only thing is I dont have my set up, Dante does. So he pretty much has to come or someone else needs to bring a set up haha.

I live in the Santa Ynez complex so parking is kinda a problem in the sense that there is plenty of it but you need to pay.

So basically I'll host if there is interest. Let me know please!

 

[DanteFox]

I'm down. I'm free after 7:30 or before 5:30

 

[DrAwesome]

I'm thinking after 7 30, it gives me some time to do stuff before hand.


Anyone else down?