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samus vs. sheik

Takumaru

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Keep your eye out for needles. Sheik can do some very nasty things after a SHFF needle cancel. Needles in general will hurt a lot of your abilities vs sheik. HOWEVER don't write off missiles entirely, a well placed missile can really screw sheik up. This matchup is one you'll just have to get used to and learn. Go watch some Rohins, phanna, watty, and hugs videos of them playing sheik. The most recent Samus vs Sheik videos I know of are Rohins and phanna vs Hiroshi.

on another note... Drephen </3 Watty?!
 

Crashmania

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hey drephen, i here COK needs a new samus. i happen to be one of the best samus's in midwest, you could do a lot worse
 

Watty

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**** this is getting kinda painful on the heart ya know...... and besides i make a post that i think has good info in it, although it has terrible grammar but ya wtf some1 say good job watty
 

Watty

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Midnight Gaming Championship

1. Wattyman
2. BigR
4. Some dude #1
4. Drephen (knocked out by watty)

get froed
 

Watty

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pfft ive always been able to beat him i know his style to well i just have always given him The matches because he does better as a whole in tourney's

but im tired of drephens bull **** he is a **** in person so I'm not giving him **** anymore

KOC for life ****in ginger ***** watty & bigr on top, looks like theres a new crew in central ohio cok suckers

AHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

edit: im taking my hand sign back sorry but i need this
 

Drephen

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Fine watty its on

KOC(lol that doesnt even make sense) vs COK

we gonna settle this with a good ol shaved head match like you said

fox vs samus

3 outta 5

loser gets his head shaved

lets start up the hype now

lets see if the fox slayer(lol what a joke) can beat me
 

Takumaru

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I can't tell if drephen and watty are being serious or just messing with us. Then again I can never tell when they're being serious or not...
 

thebluedeath1000

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Thats one hell of a way for having an important match.
Loser shaves head.

I don't care if I was ten times better than the other person, I would not do that match, **** happens.
 

Watty

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if uve ever seen me i love my hair but its not like i would lose this ROFL
 

Big_R

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plus u gotta take down big deezy and if i remember correctly the shaved hair match does have one lil surprise planned. koc4life and if u didnt know its kickin ohio's cok yayuhzzzz
 

NFR

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sheik's needles are better than samus's missiles because there are more needles. the first few needles destroy the missile and the rest of the needles hit you. so there is no camping sheik. going into the air can be deadly because of sheik's aerials. the only thing i know that is effective against sheiks is the extended grapple beam. grab+dthrow+fsmash works really well.

so its only ganna be CC's and ftilts thats much of a chance vs shieks it seems like... hmmm....
 

Watty

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DONT CC as much as people are saying lol u will get hurt real bad by a good sheik player
 

rayecho

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so its only ganna be CC's and ftilts thats much of a chance vs shieks it seems like... hmmm....
ftitlts are good, but ccing all the time isn't. at a low percent, ccing will keep up on the ground and away from combos for the most part. If you cc at high percents, you die.
 

Watty

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ya i did i went 1-1 i got 4th seed but they only let top 3 advance so i didnt get out
 

thebluedeath1000

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Mars, I thought I was too harsh but you make me think I've overly nice lol...

Chill, hes just talking to watty. no harm..this thread is about over anyway.
 

NFR

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sheik's needles are better than samus's missiles because there are more needles. the first few needles destroy the missile and the rest of the needles hit you. so there is no camping sheik. going into the air can be deadly because of sheik's aerials. the only thing i know that is effective against sheiks is the extended grapple beam. grab+dthrow+fsmash works really well.
kk so basically theres EXT grapple with the grab dthrow, fsmash, CC, and ftilts.. sounds pretty limited to me.

how about situation for edgegaurding?
 

Cra$hman

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dthrow fsmash only works if they DI wrong, if they DI away all you can get is an ftilt at low % and after around 50 a dash attack (which doesn't combo that well against sheik for some reason)
 

Dark_EDGE

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what i like to do against shiek is space and make sure a bomb is between us to avoid dash attack/grab, i also like to up out of my shield.... is this good or is it too dangerous?
 

NFR

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what i like to do against shiek is space and make sure a bomb is between us to avoid dash attack/grab, i also like to up out of my shield.... is this good or is it too dangerous?
imo, you should just Wavedash out of the shield + grab.
 

soap

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is that 20 dollar MM still on Watty boy, lets make it a signed match as well, i dont think there is a 20 dollar wattyman dollar in existence
 

Dark_EDGE

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usually missles and charged shots and bombs get shot down by needles... that is very anoying.
so instead i try to get close, but keep my distance, and use ftilts, fsmash, dsmash adn when they try to turtle i usualylay a bomb so they cant grab me then ...
 

4 Aces

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sheik's needles are better than samus's missiles because there are more needles. the first few needles destroy the missile and the rest of the needles hit you. so there is no camping sheik. going into the air can be deadly because of sheik's aerials. the only thing i know that is effective against sheiks is the extended grapple beam. grab+dthrow+fsmash works really well.
I've always thought that needles go slightly under the missiles - just barely missing them. How did I miss that?

Edit: Counter smash? Charge cancel? What is that? How do you do them?
 
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